Glock 17 or 17C
narmer71
June 24, 2003, 08:07 PM
I want to buy a glock 17. Should I buy the 17 or 17 C ?
Is the C more accurate - less powerful ? What is the difference in performance. How about the 17L is it available on the market ?
Thanks for any help
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10-Ring
June 24, 2003, 08:09 PM
Get the 17! The 9mm round won't generate enough pressure to take advantage of the "C" ;)
Combat-wombat
June 24, 2003, 08:17 PM
Compensated. It means flames come out the top of the barrel and obstruct your vision. It is meant to reduce recoil, but with a light caliber like 9mm which has light recoil anyway, it is not worth is, both in the extra cost and in the fact that it will temporarily obstruct your vision with a bright flash in a night time home defense situation, which is not good. GET THE G17, NOT THE G17C! It is a worthless feature. See this, those flames will blind you at night! http://www.glock.com/compensator.htm
Mastrogiacomo
June 24, 2003, 08:39 PM
Glock 17...with the 9mm you'll barely notice the recoil anyway. It won't be anything you can handle and why pay the extra money to get blinded...:rolleyes:
Standing Wolf
June 24, 2003, 08:54 PM
If I were going to buy a nine-millimeter Glock, I'd get the ported model. Porting really does reduced perceived recoil, and that really does improve one's accuracy.
Mastrogiacomo
June 24, 2003, 08:56 PM
Practice does too. I'd take the 17, followed by the 19 and 26...:D
Preacherman
June 24, 2003, 09:25 PM
Moving this thread to Handguns: Autoloaders forum.
Walt Sherrill
June 24, 2003, 10:32 PM
Get the 17.
If you ever want to shoot IDPA, the 17 will be great, and the 17C will be illegal. (No compensated guns in IDPA.)
Jim Watson
June 24, 2003, 10:40 PM
And if you take it to shoot IPSC it will be placed in Open vs the 28 shot scope sighted compensated one pound trigger .38 Supers.
Get the straight barrel.
Sven
June 24, 2003, 11:31 PM
Get the 17. The definition of reliability.
grenadier
June 25, 2003, 12:26 AM
My take: Get the standard Glock 17. You won't notice any significant recoil reduction, unless you are shooting some very hot loads.
If you must have the compensated Glock, then buy the Glock 17C, but also buy a separate factory Glock 17 NON-ported barrel. This way, you can simply swap out barrels if the compensation slots prove to be more of a liability for you.
DontShootMe
June 25, 2003, 12:50 AM
If you are going to get one or the other, why not get BOTH by buying a 17C and buying a OEM Glock 17 barrel to go with it!
Best of both worlds at sliver more cost then just buying one.
Also, I have personally fired a G17C in low-light settings at a range and if you are sighted in, the flash does not obstruct your sight picture any more than the standard recoil does. With night sights, it's actually kinda cool - two quick flashes of light off to the right and left of your front sight - then everything settles back down. Sight picture intact.
...just my personal experience... be advised everyones eyes are affected differently by quick flashes of light. Just no speed rocks for ya... :D
Croyance
June 25, 2003, 03:36 AM
If you are considering the G17L, why not get a G34 instead? It is very similar. Both have a longer barrel and sight radius, while having the grip diameter/shape of the G17.
As far as recoil reduction like porting, I think it affects you repeatable accuracy rather than your single shot accuracy.
The long slide Glocks are so light recoiling that I don't think you have to worry about porting, unless you are recoil sensitive.
GlocksRock
June 25, 2003, 04:25 PM
I doubt that you will gain much of anything by getting a "C" model. Get the original G17.
bad_dad_brad
June 25, 2003, 07:04 PM
I would agree with the general consensus. Go with the standard G17. I have one and felt recoil is very mild, almost like shooting a .22. Really.
The G19 is slightly more snappy.
Some swear by compensated barrels for quick recovery and sight on target. But for the G17, probably not necessary.
Kobun
June 25, 2003, 07:18 PM
I have a G34 and a 26.
The G34 is a bit on the large side for CCW, but with the right clothing it is possible.
If you have to get a G17, the idea about the 17C with a 17 barrel is a good one.
A G19 is in my oppinion a better size for CCW.
Soap
June 25, 2003, 07:55 PM
Try shooting your ported gun in retention position. :evil: Bring a fire extinguisher and a friend.
Longbow
June 26, 2003, 12:32 AM
Another vote for the 17! The flames coming out of the ports of a "c" model will; ruin the front sight, obscure vision, will burn face/eyes if gun is fired from the hip, will make it louder......
duncan
June 26, 2003, 02:33 AM
Please don't embarass yourself with a 9mm combat gun that is compensated!
If you get used to that, 40SW, 357 sig, and 10mm will be getting you to flinch just looking at the guns.
I love my Glocks but there are some mistake guns.
Any of the compensated 9mm, 40SW, and 45 ACP Glocks - for 95 percent of shooters - porting and compenating may reduce recoil but also limit your shooting skills to light rounds.
Other mistakes:
The G36
The VaporGlock in Glock 45 - The G37
9mm recoil just isn't sufficient for comping.
Come on - suck up that snap!
Not even the G20 or G31 should be comped.
Now 44 mag or any caliber that has a case longer than one inch, maybe but pistol calibers - No!
Also, if you decide you'd like to horse trade, forget it. Dealers really struggle to swap out C Glocks because most shooters DON"T want them.
Light in the face
75 fps less - less energy to target
most factory self defense ammo cannot deliver 460 FPE and now you want to drop it further to reduce your ability to stop a threat?
If this gun is ever conceivably to be used for self defense, you best consider that porting and compensatng most of these marginal stopping rounds, you might as well 17C and carry a light loaded .380 ACP because that's what it will be.
Forget it!
Cameron Lamont
June 26, 2003, 02:38 AM
After watching a 9 year old girl weighing 75lbs shoot a 5" Les Baer 1911 .45ACP in competition tonight....
Why would you need a compensated 9mm.
Cameron
duncan
June 26, 2003, 02:42 AM
Ouch!!!!!!!!!!
True though.
G17 no doubt.
tactec
October 9, 2003, 11:50 PM
I carry an uncomped .45 everyday, but I really liked shooting a Glock 9mm. I'm getting a G17L and putting an uncomped barrel in it. The flames should really only affect your night vision if you decide that is best for you.
Devonai
October 10, 2003, 12:04 AM
I can shoot my Glock 17 and my friend's Ruger Mk1 equally well even up to 35 yards. I don't see the need for a compensated version.
Sentry
October 10, 2003, 04:20 AM
It means flames come out the top of the barrel and obstruct your vision.
Yeah, ok slick, maybe if you're shooting gasoline filled cartridges. That photo is photoshopped, and not all ammos have a high flash rate. How is a slight burst of light going to blind you? Your eyes adjust immediately, and it would be no different than looking in a mag light for a quarter of a second. You still know the direction the threat is coming for, and if anything, it will help illuminate them. But forget about the compensated (they aren't, really just ported) models, and just get a regular. Even Glock reps say the ported ones are near useless unless you're playing shoot em up games.
Obiwan
October 10, 2003, 07:29 AM
Don't cut extra holes in your barrels
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