Anyone Recommend a good .22?


June 17, 2007, 09:23 PM
I am trying to get recommendations for a good .22 rifle that is not that expensive. I am just going to use it for plinking at the range and I do not want to spend a lot of money on a rifle that will not be used for hunting. Preferably a good semi-auto that will shoot shorts. Thanks everybody!!

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June 17, 2007, 09:37 PM
Well, if you want to try a lever action, look at a Henry.
These are pretty nice and pretty inexpensive.

June 17, 2007, 09:38 PM
If you want one that will last a lifetime or three, look at the CZ 452.

General Geoff
June 17, 2007, 09:38 PM
Finding a semi auto that shoots both .22 short and .22lr is going to be a feat.

June 17, 2007, 09:57 PM
If you want one that will last a lifetime or three, look at the CZ 452

Agreed 100%. CZ 452 Trainer, accurate, inexpensive ($225) light weight handles well...and did I say accurate?!

CZ: You can pay more, you can pay less but you can't buy more for less.

June 17, 2007, 10:08 PM
Sounds like you need a Ruger 10/22. They run just under $200 for the basic model and are semi-auto. They don't shoot .22 short though, just LR.

My favorite gun is my 10/22...and that's saying a lot (I have an AR :neener: )

June 17, 2007, 10:11 PM
Try the Savage semi auto. They are about $100. at walmart and make excellent plinkers. Stop looking for one that shoots shorts as ammo for shorts is much more expensive and hard to find than long rifle ammo.

June 17, 2007, 10:12 PM
10/22. More customizations than you could shake a stick at.

June 17, 2007, 10:13 PM
Just get the Ruger 10/22.

I tried to save money with a Savage and I'm constantly having feeding problems. Parts are hard to find and there is next to no aftermarket for them (even though the guns have been made forever...).

Spend the extra dough and pick up a nice 10/22. Trust me, you will be very pleased with one.

June 17, 2007, 10:29 PM
Since shorts are more expensive than long rifle these days you won't find any reason to have a semi-auto that shoots them.

As others have said, get a Ruger 10/22.

June 17, 2007, 11:05 PM
Another + for the Ruger 10/22.

inexpensive reliable and plenty of aftermarket accessories.

June 17, 2007, 11:10 PM
Finding a semi auto that shoots both .22 short and .22lr is going to be a feat.

Not at all, there's a Remington auto that shorts both. Of course it was designed when shorts were cheaper, which has not been true for some time. unless you have some reason to want to use more expensive shorts, get a Marlin 60 if you don't want to tinker, and a 10/22 if you do.

June 17, 2007, 11:12 PM
Get a Marlin model 60. The old 17 shot ones can be found from $70-$100 at local pawn shops. They are reliable and acurate just keep the action clean. New ones feature a last shot bolt hold open which is nice and can be had for around $150 or so.

June 17, 2007, 11:17 PM
Another vote for the 10/22. They haven't been around forever it seems for no reason.

The Marlin 60 is a good one too though.

If you want really nice, but probably more expensive than you're looking to spend, get a Marlin 39 lever gun. It will shoot shorts, longs (Do they even make them anymore?) and Long Rifle.

June 17, 2007, 11:23 PM
Shorts? :scrutiny: Well, that means you'll spend $95.00 on the rifle if on sale, and over the next five year, somewhere north of $3,000.00 for ammo. Yes, exaggerating. Get any American-made .22LR and be happy.

1) T/C Arms (Classic or HB)
2) T/C G2/Contender/Encore
3) Ruger 10/22 (HB)
4) Remington (597 HB)

There you go, 1st place, a 2nd three-way-tie, 3rd place and 4th place. CZs are good, but they aren't American. Buy American when you can. I tried that when I just bought my Savage .22LR...&^$$(@)# thing is from Canada! Course I didn't see that until I returned home. That really urinated me off, because I told the saleman American-made rifles. Oh well, little bugger is tremendously accurate! Hmmm...kinda like the CZs. :o Okay, what makes you happy then. :)

By the way, while I joke a bit here, I take my .22LRs pretty darned seriously. They are my all-time so? Well, I just bought my latest 8,000 rounds of Rem .22LR Thunderbolts. Those 8,000 rounds will not last my daughter and I long...perhaps a month of summer shooting. My daughter can go through 1K in an afternoon of run-it-up shooting. She loves .22s! Ditto!

June 17, 2007, 11:31 PM
Simple...Lose the desire to shoot .22 Shorts and go with a Ruger 10/22 - that was easy... :)

June 17, 2007, 11:41 PM
I would say stick w/ the 22 LR. It can be found everywhere, Plenty of aftermatket stuff in a RUGER 10/22 flavors. (The aftermarket stuff makes for alot of 'like new to slightly used' goods to be had at cheap bargin prices).

I say get a new RUGER 10/22 in Stainless if you want a good looking 'Deluxe Plinker' right out of the box, complete w/ checkering on a wonderful wooden stock, complete w/ a rail to mount a scope on.

I have had mine for years, have yet to break anything on it yet >>> ( :banghead: = 'knock on saw dust' )
It is like I described above. I got mine from 'WALLY - WORLD', :scrutiny:, @ ABOUT :confused:, $227.88, :D. Stainless Steel, long barrel, wonderful wooden stock w/ nice deep checkering, nice quality butt plate on the stock. My wife bought it for my for my birthday several years ago.

Volume of rounds: It goes to the range every time we have a shoot, or fish camp trip. Everyone likes to shoot it. I have several 25 - 30 round Eagle, Butler Creek, Hott Lips RED, Steele Lips, all sorts of mags, still the best is the Ruger 10 rounders for smooth shooting, no jamming as most times go. -JOMHO

June 17, 2007, 11:51 PM
Get a 10/22 or a Marlin 60.

June 18, 2007, 12:16 AM
one more time RUGER 10/22, out here you can get one for 180.00 (bought one onsale last week for 159.00) Alot of cheap mods for it out there and fun to shoot.

Steel Talon
June 18, 2007, 12:19 AM
Hello Alligator..

Simple enough, for me the very best dollar/rifle value out there at one time was/is the Romanian m-69 mil surp. I purchased three for $180.00 a couple years back. Clip fed, chromed barrel, bolt action accurate shooters.

Check out lots of info on many many rim fires.
Steel Talon:cool:

June 18, 2007, 12:29 AM
i would look at 3 the cz will not only be super accurate, with a set trigger, but it will be a lifetime rifle, one who's beauty you would be proud to hand down to someone. that is for a mag fed bolt. Now for a semiauto, the marlin mod 60, has been made in about a million diff configurations, but you will allways recognize them , however they are disguised, with that same square auto bolt, and that long tube feed. For a 100 dollar rifle, they are about as accurate as you will get , out of the box. But don't get a new mod 60, go to a gunshop or a pawnshop, and get a used one for between 50 to 100 bucks, also if they say Glenfield, it is the same as marlin usually with a squirrel, acorn, bunny, or coyote, engraved into the stock. Same rifle.Just make sure you know how they work, or take someone with you who knows; a gunshop will know if it is allright or not, a pawnshop dude has no idea, but you will get a better price there.
Avoid the ruger 10.22 , I have one, and they are great, after you do some modification to them. I do not consider them a beginners rifle, more for someone experienced with 22's, and good with tools.
For a cheapy bolt, with a synth stock, the best deal going for a long time is the marlin, 81 series, now called the 981, it is a bolt action tube, fed, that will fire short, long. and long rifle ammo, the tube will hold about 25 shorts at one time, which is totally sick!!!! And accuracy, it is a marlin no brainer. \
Dont overlook savage as well, they are world renowned for accurate bbls, but their stocks, especially the synthetic ones, can be a bit gross and mushy.
so if you find a wood stock savage, with an accutrigger, jump all over that one. Also their semiauto, bottom of the line 120 dollar job, with those brick heavy mags, and that Schnabel type forend, is quite accurate, and comfortalbe to shoot, offhand. Wally world use to sell these for 100 bucks , everyday.
Cz will be the most, and also the best , of all these rifles for under 300. but I would have ho problems getting any of the others, especially if i new i may beat them up a bit.
for a lever, any winchester or henry will fill the bill nicely, actually so would a taurus, but those may be a bit harder to find.

June 18, 2007, 12:32 AM
the problem with finding the Marlin mod 60 , with the 17 shot tube, is that they were only made from '85 to '88, and can be hard to find, most dudes who have them, and know better, will never sell them. They also had the last shot bolt hold open, which started in either like '83 or 85. the ones made after 88, well, congress decided you can't handle a 17 shot semi auto, so they made marlin shorten that tube.

June 18, 2007, 12:33 AM
look around for one of the remington speedmasters, they'll fire shorts, longs and long rifles.

June 18, 2007, 12:34 AM
Single shots like the old Rem 5xx series are accurate and shoot short, long and long rifle.

Old Remington Speedmasters and Fieldmasters, (semi's and pumps) will run S,L,LR as well and these too are accurate, and good looking wood and blue guns.

Old Rem Nylon 66, either butt fed or magazine, are very reliable, accurate and fun guns. Still holds the record for shooting 100,010 one inch wood blocks tossed in the air...always forget who did that.

Newer guns:
I like the Marlin 60 for a semi, and the bolt guns are nice.
Most of my recent time with the bolt guns, are the kid sized ones [Fun] assisting kids.

CZ 452 is a nice bolt gun as well.

Still...some of the older guns, and some can be found "right" as they are not New and all the rage, provide some great guns, at great values, and these guns just need to be bought, used and enjoyed.

DO NOT - pick up a Browning lever action, or Semi Auto.
These are Sweet Guns, one cannot let go of, and the next thing one knows, they have spent more money than they intended.

You have been cautioned. ;)

June 18, 2007, 12:36 AM
Just for clarification: is there a special reason that you want to shoot .22 short? Lots of people (and I agree with them!) are basically advising that you forget about shooting shorts; is there some reason that .22 short is important to you in a rifle?

As to your quest, I'll throw out that I have a bolt-action .22 by Savage with a stainless bull barrel and black synthetic furniture; I'd tell you the model, but it's at my dad's place right now. (A downside to parents in different states is keeping track of what might be stashed at each of their houses, never mind the various places I've lived ;)) I've fired my Savage less than I'd like to have fired it, but it was cheap ($120 or so, I think) from a mid-range sporting goods store (Dicks, I think) 6 or 7 years ago, and it's a joy to shoot. Bolt action means straightforward to clean, too.


cracked butt
June 18, 2007, 12:43 AM
If you want one that will last a lifetime or three, look at the CZ 452.

Another vote for the CZ.
I myself prefer bolt actions in .22. Most of the domestic made bolt actions in current production that are worth owning are very pricey- though the Browning T-bolt seems like a decent investment to me.
Look around for used rifles- remington 581 and 541 rifles are very accurate and are easy to find magazines for. If you can find one, the 581s only cost around $100.

My opinion on semiautos:
Rem 597: a lot of peoplelike these, I bought an early model that wouldn't feed more than 2 rounds in a row, not sure if they ever fixed the problem or if you need to buy aftermarket magazines to get these rifles to work. Either way, this rifle leaves the taste of bile in my mouth- its the only firearm I ever owned and absolutely hated.
Ruger 10/22- Highly customizable, fairly inexpensive, and fun to plink with in their factory trim, other than upgrading them with aftermarket parts they really aren't a very serious rifle.
TC R-55: a very well made rifle. It costs 3x as much as a 10/22 but you'd easily drop that much money into a 10/22 to get as much rifle anyway.
Browning SA-22: same comments as the TC rifle, but more expensive.

June 18, 2007, 06:15 AM
Another vote for the Marlin 60. I bought mine for $50 used, and I think it was the best $50 I ever spent on a firearms purchase.

* semi automatic
* cheap as hell ($50-75 used in pawnshops)
* very reliable action
* very accurate straight from the box
* Tube fed magazine can hold up to 17 (older styles) or 14 (new style)

If you like modifying you rrifle go for a 10/22.

If you are like me, and like a good solid, cheap, yet still accurate .22 straight from the box with no aftermarket accessories, then a Marlin 60 is your best friend.

June 18, 2007, 07:52 AM
Marlin 60 is great, side step the clip fed, misfeed jam jam. tube fed great.
Couple of used at

June 18, 2007, 11:06 AM
Here's my thoughts:

Followed by this:

That's a whoooooole lot of happiness! :D

June 18, 2007, 11:13 AM
For 22 LR only the 10/22 is king. For s, l , lr most any , especially older 22, magazine, tube fed or otherwise will take all 3 types. Most are labelled right on the barrel what types it takes. Last one I got and actually my most favorite is old old 1930's Remington with a Lyman scope. Feeds anything. Holds 20 something in the shorts and about 17 in the LR.

June 18, 2007, 11:14 AM
Ruger 10-22,I had a few ftf and fte with mine and did a little bolt work and now it is 100% reliable no matter what I fead it.
Check out they have lots of good info.

June 18, 2007, 11:45 AM
I have a 10/22.

I recently got a Marlin Golden 39A.

I no longer have much interest in the 10/22.:)

One thing that people don't think about with a semiauto is cleaning. Lots of cleaning. And FTF's, stovepipes, misfeeds...

That lever gun is just plain more fun. It's not a tinkertoy set: it's all done when you buy it.;) Has a heavy barrel, too, and is an adult-sized rifle with some heft to it. Easier to shoot steadily offhand, IMO. Also will shoot anything including CB Shorts. Someday, I promise, you will find yourself wanting to do that for one reason or another.:D

This is my opinion, and it's worth what you paid for it:

1. Want absolute accuracy, get a decent bolt gun.
2. Want accuracy and fun, get a quality lever.
3. Want to buy stock in Hoppes, get a semiauto.
4. Want tinker with a rifle, get a 10/22.

Mongo the Mutterer
June 18, 2007, 12:16 PM
I recently got a Marlin Golden 39A.

You piqued my interest. Went on Marlin's website. Yep.

I used to go squirrel hunting with a friend of mine forty years ago who had that Marlin with Lyman peep sights.

Unbelievable rifle. Dead on accurate. Felt wonderful.

June 18, 2007, 01:35 PM
Most all that I can say has been said. Top of the line is the Marlin 39, great rifle, grew up shooting one of the little mounties (carbine) if you want a "REAL" .22 and can afford the $500 go that way.

Starter .22s are just about all fine, I would hit the pawn shops and get you a little Marlin 60. Around here you can get them for $50 to $80, clean them up and spend many happy hours putting rounds down range. If you think you might want more later but don't want to spend the money now, get a 10/22. Later you can get a target grade barrel and stock and get more serious. But again any of the others mentioned are fine also.

Essex County
June 18, 2007, 02:31 PM
sm nailed it. Especialy in his first sentence. Essex

June 18, 2007, 05:57 PM
Thanks for all the info guys. Never actually owned a .22, but shot a lot of them as a kid. I just need to stop shooting so much .308, so I figured I would get a 22 for fun. Off to see what Wally World and the gun hop has.

June 18, 2007, 06:57 PM
Even though you're at walmart as we speak...

+1 10/22. I've shot and owned a lot of .22's and I have never been happier then with the 10/22. I got a Marlin still, but I'd pick the 10/22 any day. I must admit the 10/22 lacked in reliability until I bought a ($12)extractor.

June 18, 2007, 07:15 PM
As I followed this thread, I wondered who/when/if anyone was going to suggest the 39A rather than a semiauto. I have .22rfs in bolt (Rem), auto (10/22) and, the king of .22s, a 39A. I like then all but guess which gets the most use! :rolleyes:

Of course the fact that the 39A about matches my 336/.35 deer rifle makes it even better for me to shoot it a lot! :)

June 18, 2007, 07:16 PM
I must admit the 10/22 lacked in reliability until I bought a ($12)extractor.

Which one did you get? I might want one...

The thing is, this is a pretty common statement:

"I must admit the 10/22 lacked in X until I bought a ($Y) Z.":D

Beware of the variable Y.

June 18, 2007, 11:47 PM
I went with a Marlin 981T. Tube fed bolt action. Holds 17 rounds of .22lr and I believe 25 of shorts. The sights could be a little better but otherwise I quite like it.

June 19, 2007, 07:32 AM
I had one for years at least 30k rounds thru it. More accurate than stock 10/22's (without mortgaging the house on it;)), around 110.00 or so new. Every bit as good as the marlin 60, only clip fed with ten round stock magazines. Again out of the box bone stock very accurate, mine does 1/2" at 50 yards with el cheapo bulk stuff.:D

June 19, 2007, 09:14 AM
Some of us appear to have a hard time with the terms - inexpensive and semi auto which is why the CZ 452 or Remington 5xx series are not at the top of the list. I have both and enjoy them however a plain jane Ruger 10-22 from a big box store fits the answer to inexpensive semiauto and you get reliable as a freebie. PS the 39A is not inexpensive, a semi auto or mine is not all that accurate - but it is fun to shoot.

full metal
June 19, 2007, 06:48 PM
REMINGTON NYLON 66 nuff said.

June 19, 2007, 06:57 PM
Henry H001 You'll never find a more fun .22. Shoots good and 100 percent made in USA.

June 19, 2007, 07:07 PM
+1 fro a marlin if you stick with the lever. +1 on the ruger if you change your mind.

June 19, 2007, 07:15 PM
a plain jane Ruger 10-22 from a big box store fits the answer to inexpensive semiauto and you get reliable as a freebie

And a lot of us say it's not, 24k.

For one thing, the price has gone up a bit lately. It's no longer "inexpensive" for what it is. "Reliable" is not what I think of mine. However, that's true of most .22 semiautos until you spend a bit more. Might as well spend it up front, rather than keep adding parts later.

The T/C looks good; I don't own one, so I will leave specific recommendations to those who do. Frankly, though, it's no more expensive than a Ruger, if you add the fiberoptic sights it comes with (which the Ruger needs, and I added to mine), last-shot-hold-open for $50, trigger parts for $50, and an extractor for $12. And you end up with a gun with a nice walnut stock, and a steel receiver with a screw-in barrel, which you won't get with a 10/22 no matter how much money you throw at it. All things considered, it's less expensive than a 10/22.

If you plan to keep the 10/22 bone-stock, get a Marlin 60 for a lot less money ($125 here on sale, vs $219 for the 10/22). With it you get a laminate stock and a reliable feed system that works fine with bullets that may be a bit oxidized, or are plain lead.

My 39A is accurate. That's all I can attest to.

Either way, I would just as soon have spent the money I spent on the 10/22 I don't use, on something else more expensive up front, rather than buying both.

That's the best recommendation I can give. I know the CZ-452 fans feel the same way.

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June 19, 2007, 10:27 PM
Some great stuff here. All I can say is that I was in your shoes not too long ago, and got a CZ-452 trainer with iron sights, and haven't looked back. Pretty gun, reliable, at least as accurate as I am. Real fun.

Jeff F
June 19, 2007, 11:17 PM
I shoot shorts out of a 10.22 every once in awhile but only as a single load single shot. Shorts work real well for pest control when you don't want to disturb the neighbors.

June 19, 2007, 11:28 PM
Check your local Game and Wildlife Regulations.

Some locations, such as where I am, allow one to hunt raccoons at night and one is restricted to .22 short rim-fire ammunition.

Other locations restrict one to .22 short rim-fire for other night hunting as well.

While many locations have laws against shining lights at night, special circumstances, like this coon hunting, with .22 short, using a light and dogs, makes for some really quality and fun hunting.

Rite of passage down South for a kid going on his/her first coon hunt, with a kid's sized .22 rifle that will shoot shorts, and the dogs doing their thing, the treed coons with light and that kid taking his first coon .


The single shot rifle .22 rifle ain't dead, nor is the .22 short. :D

June 20, 2007, 04:31 AM
The Ruger 10/22 is fun, but my Marlin 39A is my favorite. I like the lever action and it just feels like a quality rifle. But blasting away at tin cans with a 10/22 is...well, a blast.

Bottom line for me: They're both good.

June 20, 2007, 04:35 AM
10/22 Lr :)

June 20, 2007, 09:17 AM
I have a preban Feather AT22 that is a great plinker. There are also a number of great upgrades (i.e. AR15 stick, barrel shroud, scope mounts, etc.).

My Feather AT 22

June 20, 2007, 11:11 AM
I got my Marlin 60 for $170 or so, and have been very satisfied with it. I don't know if it will shoot shorts, but this is one I can recommend based on my experience.

June 20, 2007, 11:49 AM
Marlin 60.

June 20, 2007, 12:27 PM
+1 on the Henry. Low price but each one I've handled has an action smooth as silk and is as accurate as can be

June 20, 2007, 06:46 PM
What is everyone's thoughts about the 22 magnum? I am considering a Henry.

June 21, 2007, 07:14 PM
I went and bought a Marlin Model 60. I got it used from the gun shop. Cheap, looks great and it came with a scope. Now I just have to wait 5 business days :( Stupid ATF, I didn't get delayed last week when I picked up another pistol, but I get delayed for a .22 rifle:confused: I think its a trick by the gun store to get me to go back and spend more money!! I wasn't planning on getting a semi, but I figured the ammo for it is cheap I may as well go through a lot of it!:)

June 21, 2007, 08:40 PM
Another vote for the CZ 452/453 rifles. Simply the most rifle for money period. Mine shot sub 1/2 in groups out of the box with inexpensive ammo, and even better with match grade ammo.

June 22, 2007, 12:19 AM
Best stick with the ruger 1022 or a marlin semi-auto

June 22, 2007, 01:08 AM
"Original" 10/22's are probably rare, they're so easy to modify. Neat, down-to-earth semi.

The Marlin Golden 39A is, I think, one of the most beautiful .22's ever built. An American classic. Beautiful wood, beautiful blueing. And a tackdriver. Takedown, easy to clean from the breach. BUT --- ya gotta like levers ...

June 22, 2007, 01:59 PM
Read very few posts. Get an old Mossberg for 125-150 nad they will shoot the pants of most 3-400 new rifles. Most are bolts.

June 22, 2007, 03:49 PM
The last 10/22 I owned (15 years ago) wouldn't shoot straight enough to hunt with. This was, of course, before the heavy barrels and all the aftermarket barrels, target stocks, etc. came out.

My opinion's changed after shooting a female friend's stainless 10/22 just after Christmas. At 50 feet she can clean an NRA light rifle target standing with a bunch of X's. This is with the thin barrel, not the target.

I'm still not impressed with the cost of one, though. I've yet to see one that wasn't 100 bucks more than a Marlin 60 or one of the Savage or Remington semiautos.

June 22, 2007, 08:09 PM
Find a old Mossberg, tube fed!

June 22, 2007, 08:33 PM
I have a marlin 60 and it's great. I like it more than a 10/22

what is the deal with those feather .22s?
I've heard of them and they seem cool but kind of expensive.

June 22, 2007, 09:23 PM
Marlin 39A

I love the feel, the weight, and the look.

I also like that fact that it shoots Shorts. Nice and quiet.

I shoot .22 pistol mostly, and wear ear protection, of course, all the time.

However, I enjoy taking the muffs off, unencumbered, and shoot some Shorts from time to time.


June 22, 2007, 09:35 PM
I AM WITH DOC.....With one addition.

1) T/C Arms (Classic or HB)
2) T/C G2/Contender/Encore
3) Ruger 10/22 (HB)
4) Remington (597 HB)
5) Marlin Model 60 Just keep it clean! and dont use cheap ammo in none of the extra $1 for better ammo!

If you want to shoot shorts I would forget the auto and Go with #2.
and the best option would be buy a #1 or #2 and a 3,4,&5 for the heck of it!

If you ever buy a T/C you will be hooked! Hey Doc ever shoot .22CB's in your contender? Its like stealth hunting squirrels.....they think there buddy had a heart attack instead of getting shot

June 22, 2007, 09:40 PM
Only one way to go....22LR in a Ruger 10/22 for what you are looking for. Later if you want you can throw a competition bore barrel on it and have it shooting like an RWS or close to 1913 supermatch accuracy all the better!

August 11, 2007, 07:56 AM
Alligator94; just so happens that I have a relative that's looking to part company with such a rifle. It's a Remington 550-1 (1946 manufacture date, I think she said) -- and if you're still looking for such a thing, let me know. As a collectible shooter, it's great. Way accurate w/any .22 rimfire ammo. I've personally put quite a few rounds through it, and I can't make it miss.
The only times I've run "mixed" tubes was when combining long and lr. I can't recall the thing ever choking on me, regardless of load used, but then it's always been kept clean. It's one of the good ones (milled from steel forgings), and the bore and innards are pristine. The bore and innards are the only things pristine about it; it's been a "user", and is in NRA good condition, at best.
Find one of these, and you'll have what you want.

August 12, 2007, 11:51 AM
try either the cz series,a nice marlin bolt action,or a 10/22 ruger i have all 3 of those and they are very nice guns to have...

August 14, 2007, 12:34 AM
Bass Pro Shops currently has the 10/22 field rifle (not carbine) on sale for $139. Probably the best 10/22 deal going right now.

In reality, you can't really go wrong with just about any .22 rifle... new or old. If you want to save money, attend a gun show or browse local pawn shops looking for used name brand .22 rifles. Usually 75 to 100 bucks will get you a fine shooter after a little cleanup and oiling that will be on par in terms of accuracy with any new .22 rifle selling today for $500 or less.

August 14, 2007, 01:19 AM
CZ 452.

That is all.


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