What caliber for Vizsla puppy?


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ArmedBear
June 18, 2007, 02:21 PM
AAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!

There was something I didn't know about puppies. They're louder than adult dogs.

I haven't slept much in two days!

How long do they keep crying at night?

How do we make it stop?:banghead:

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Kilgor
June 18, 2007, 02:28 PM
Well, I read and was advised to just ignore it and they will get over it quickly. I gave it three weeks and could take no more. At 3:00 am with her whining and scratching i stormed into the kitchen, yelled "SHUT UP!!" at the top of my lungs while whacking the top of the kennel. She stopped and is perfect now at night going on two years. The same thing worked for my other dog as well.

I think they just get in the habit of whining and scratching and need to be told in no uncertain terms that it will not continue.

I'm sure I'll be criticized, but so what? It worked for me (twice).

Prof. A. Wickwire
June 18, 2007, 02:30 PM
ArmedBear,

I feel your pain! Our lab/border collie mix (Brena) cried every night. My beloved and I took turns sleeping on the kitchen floor with Brena to ease her separation anxiety. After her second night doing this, Helen relented and let Brena sleep in the bedroom with us.

Dogs are pack animals. If the pack is not complete they are distressed. Solitary confinement is the worst punishment from a dog's perspective.

If you are crating your puppy at night, can you move the crate next to the bed? Also, putting a t-shirt that you have worn in the crate can help because of the comforting scent. Make sure it's a t-shirt you don't care about. :)

Hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Prof. A. Wickwire

wolfe28
June 18, 2007, 02:48 PM
Last year, my wife and I adopted a labramutt (mix of border collie, black lab, shepard, etc) from one of the local rescue agencies. He is a great dog, but he came with a severe case of separation anxiety. After talking to the vet, here is what we did.
Get a dog toy known as a "Kong". It is a rubber chew toy that is hollow and can be filled with things. Break up a few dog biscuits and put them inside. Make them small enough to come back out, but large enough that it takes a little work. Now, seal the end of the Kong with peanut butter. This will keep the dog quite happy, and busy, for at least 10 minutes once you give it to him/her, but don't do that yet. Once you have the kong loaded, take the peanut butter spoon and get a little more peanut butter on it, and put a "benadril" (pardon the spelling) tablet in it. Check with your vet, but I think it is one of the little tablets for every 25lbs of body weight. Give that to the dog, and once he/she has finished it off, give them the kong. By the time the kong is empty, the dog will have forgotten that you have left, and the drug will have started to make the dog sleepy. From there, it should be smooth sailing.
We had to do that to Bacchus for about 2 months (not every day, but fairly often), and he has been fine ever since.
Good luck, and get some sleep.
D

Il Duca
June 18, 2007, 05:05 PM
You just took a baby dog away from it's family. It cries because it's lonely. It has always had other pups or it's mother to sleep with it. My Boxer pup had problems too at first. I got her a big Teddy bear and rubbed it all over me and put it in with her at night. That did the trick. She had something to cuddle up with and it smelled like me.

ArmedBear
June 18, 2007, 05:17 PM
Thanks all! We'll try whatever we haven't already.

He has a blanket from my wife, a fuzzy thing to cuddle with, etc., etc.

I think he may have to figure out that we ARE his family now, before our scent is as reassuring as the scent of his 9 brothers and sisters all rolling around with him in a pile of straw. It's starting to happen.

But if I'd wanted a dog that could f---ing YODEL all night at 8 weeks old, I'd have gotten a damned AUSTRIAN dog, not a Hungarian one!:p

...and any other ideas are also appreciated! Keep 'em coming, and thanks again to all who have responded. You're helping more than you know.

trueblue1776
June 18, 2007, 05:17 PM
You just want everyone to know you just got a badass dog, don't gloat to much, it's bad for my self esteem.

Congrats on getting one of the finest hunting dogs in the world.

ArmedBear
June 18, 2007, 05:19 PM
Thanks trueblue.

I'll try to remind myself of how lucky we are while we lie awake at night with him howling at the moon at the top of his rather amazing little lungs.:p

Seriously, objectively I'm excited to have the dog. But I sure didn't feel that way last night or this morning.

We really haven't slept much since we got him. We were ready to try to return him to the breeder today. Our other dog put in her vote for that, too.

Last I heard, though, they were starting to play together. She's a little Bruce Lee, or at least she was before knee surgeries. She seems to be doing pretty well now, again. But she's going to teach him to be quite a little fighter. I wonder if she knows that he will grow to be her size.

Seems like he's starting to adjust. Fingers crossed, anyway.

waterhouse
June 18, 2007, 05:34 PM
With Vizslas, the first 3 years are the hardest. :D

Now that he is 9 ours only barks when there is someone approaching the front porch or opening the back gate. Fantastic dogs, congrats.

tnieto2004
June 18, 2007, 05:35 PM
My shepherd did that .. Ignore it until it stops .. Don't give it attention when it cries or it will do it more ..

308win
June 18, 2007, 05:49 PM
Your might want to check this link (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=280979) out as the OP appeared to have some understanding of what he was getting into.

ArmedBear
June 18, 2007, 05:56 PM
LOL

I did, to an extent.

But what I didn't know was that, at 8 weeks of age, the little bastard would look up towards the ceiling, pucker his lips, and start HOWLING, really, really loudly! ...and that he'd keep it up all night long...

My other dog can't howl. She tries, and it's pathetically funny.

This guy can howl like a dog many times his size. It's unbelievable. It's not just a little crying I'm talking about.

How do some dogs generate so many decibels, even when they're tiny puppies?

308win
June 18, 2007, 07:07 PM
Must be in the genes. If he is as persistent hunting as he is trying to get attention you have a winner. If he picked up some bad programming at the breeders it isn't his fault. There is some good advice on this post and I imagine if you google vizsla and howling, barking etc you will get some good info.

ArmedBear
June 18, 2007, 07:12 PM
If he is as persistent hunting as he is trying to get attention you have a winner.

The first hour we brought him home, he was running around in the grass, pointing honeybees.

I'm thinking he'll hunt.:)

It'll take some work to make him manageable, though.

308win
June 18, 2007, 07:30 PM
You have probably found this but just in case: Vizsla (http://clubs.akc.org/vizsla/resources.htm)

marksman13
June 18, 2007, 08:17 PM
Try putting a radio next to his crate and keep it low. It helped with both of our puppies. The t-shirt idea worked well too.

308win
June 18, 2007, 08:59 PM
I have heard that a wind up clock wrapped in something that has your scent works as the ticking reminds the puppy of a heartbeat. Never tried it.

Il Duca
June 19, 2007, 05:39 PM
You may also try taking him for a good long walk before you put him down for the night, or a rough and tough play session. Try and tire him out before putting him to bed.

ArmedBear
June 19, 2007, 05:44 PM
Oh we tire him out.

Our Pit Bull helps with that, as well. They are already playing together, and she's gentle enough but also whacks him around.

He crashes hard. Then he wakes up a few hours later.

We already love the little bastard! He's great.

But last night, he slept in the back of the station wagon, after he started howling at midnight. I feel better now, since I got some sleep.:)

waterhouse
June 19, 2007, 05:53 PM
Let's see some pictures of this pup.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/waterhouse/ike.jpg

Here's ours, going on 10 years old. I dread the day when I have to get a new one and start over where you are.

ArmedBear
June 19, 2007, 06:03 PM
Great-looking dog, waterhouse!

Our vizsla puppy (Gus) is on the right side of the picture.

http://ellie.crankylabs.com/albums/puppies-and-stuff/dad.sized.jpg

And yes, there are shotshell reloaders in the living room.:p

http://ellie.crankylabs.com/albums/puppies-and-stuff/gus.sized.jpg
http://ellie.crankylabs.com/albums/puppies-and-stuff/topoftheheap.sized.jpg

Geno
June 19, 2007, 06:12 PM
We have a new chocolate lab puppy and two Boster Terriers (the older is 6, the younger is 2). So long as the puppy sleeps with the adults dogs, no problems. Or, so long as the puppy sleeps with my daughter, no problems. The consistent theme is the puppy doesn't want to be alone. :)

ArmedBear
June 19, 2007, 06:15 PM
Damn thing bites our ears, chews at my beard, chomps on our fingers...

We'd be more inclined to let him crawl into bed if he were less inclined to bite everything he sees.

At first, I think he missed his little pack. Now that he's starting to adapt to US as his pack, the crying thing is improving little by little.

Those little teeth are sharp, though.:what:

koja48
June 19, 2007, 09:13 PM
But there's NO elixir in the world quite like "puppy breath!" The whining will pass, so in the meantime, try what folks have offered & enjoy this most special gift. I've always crate-trained my Labs & usually after 1 or 2 days, they settle down. Crate not much larger than the dog next to your bed, so pup knows he/she is not alone, plus you know when their little yet-uncontrolled bladder needs relief. I envy you . . . been 7 years since my last pup & Mags turned in to "my dog of a lifetime" (the fact that she helped me thru a painful divorce may have biased me, but WHAT theraputic value!).

308win
June 20, 2007, 12:52 AM
Not to be maudlin but every dog I have ever had has been my dog of a lifetime. You don't have to give very much to get back more than you can ever measure.

Skoghund
June 20, 2007, 10:47 AM
Ah the joys of having a puppy. I just ignore the noise of a new puppy it normaly only lasts for a couple of nights. My taxen (Dachshund) is now 18 months old and he can dig up the lawn like a machine. The lawn is starting to look like a lunar landscape. My girl friend has a Clumber spaniel also 18 months and that would chew up everything ,mobile phones, shoes, furniture,etc. and the loose hair and slober is quite amazing. but they are worth the cost

DogBonz
June 20, 2007, 10:57 AM
I have heard that a wind up clock wrapped in something that has your scent works as the ticking reminds the puppy of a heartbeat. Never tried it.

This is an old trick that really does work.

Try it out.

koja48
June 20, 2007, 10:56 PM
That's your experience, not mine. Your assessment re: giving & getting is spot-on, but Maggie is "special." and that happens to be both my experience and a very precious gift.

bulltaco
June 22, 2007, 08:56 PM
It is frowned upon by many dog trainer but I always just put the puppy in bed with us and expect not to get too much sleep. Sometimes you are surprised!

Rey B
June 23, 2007, 10:08 PM
If you go with the wind up clock thing just make sure that the alarm is disabled. Yes, I know it sounds like a bad joke, but it will ruin your night and the puppy's as well.

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