Wolf Ammo: Is it dirty?


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Picknlittle
June 18, 2007, 04:11 PM
This may seem like a dumb question, and maybe not.

After shooting thirty of forty rounds of milsurp ammo (you know, the corrosive stuff) , my T53 MN barrel cleans easy with a bit of Hoppe's and a half dozen patches.

The SKS after shooting the same amount of Wolf which is supposed to be non corrosive, is a buggar to clean. Solvent, wait, scrub, swab, solvent, scrub, swab, over and over again until finally I get light grey streaks on my dry patches. Then I run an oil patch down the bore and put it away.

Is this common with Wolf?

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Ohio Rifleman
June 18, 2007, 04:15 PM
In my experience with Wolf ammo, yes. It's dirty, but cheap. I think it's a fair trade. I can't afford to pay $9/box for Remington or American Eagle 7.62x39. But, the SKS was meant to be abused. (I love Russian guns!) So, it's always a good idea to make it as clean as possible, I wouldn't lose any sleep if your rifle isn't immaculate.

kcmarine
June 18, 2007, 04:16 PM
Yeah, dude. It's an SKS. Don't get too concerned if it gets dirty. That's what it's for. :)

DMK
June 18, 2007, 04:18 PM
The SKS after shooting the same amount of Wolf which is supposed to be non corrosive, is a buggar to clean.Non-corrosive has nothing to do with dirty. Lots of non-corrosive ammo makes a ton of carbon residue and some corrosive ammo is relatively clean.

Best thing to do is soak the barrel and action with a good powder solvent like Hoppe's #9. Let it set a little while to dissolve the powder residue, then wipe it down and oil.

sharkhunter2018
June 18, 2007, 04:22 PM
Im not sure about calibers other then 7.62x39. But I know x39 is dirty as hell. I have used Wolf .45, and it did not seem to be near as dirty as the x39 is. May be dirty, but its cheap and I like that.

Picknlittle
June 18, 2007, 04:42 PM
Thanks everyone. I may well be being a bit anal about cleaning it. It doesn't look like it's life to this point has been all that good. :)

I will say that after about 100 rounds, nary a failure of any kind. Other folks claim they have never heard of an SKS failure to fire, cycle or eject.

I'll take that!:D

loadedround
June 18, 2007, 04:44 PM
I've used Wolf 223 ammo and it is extermly dirty and the shellac used on the outside of the steel case stinks when it's heated. Also the steel case doesn't do your extractor any good either. Use it in AK's and SKS's and use good ammo in quality firearms. JMHO.:cuss:

mljdeckard
June 18, 2007, 04:49 PM
I have a general guideline: Use russian ammo in Russian guns. SKS, Makarov, AK, etc, go for it. I would NOT use Wolf .223 in my American AR or Mini-14, I have also had it stick and FTE when it gets really hot. I don't think I'll try their .30 carbine in my family heirloom Inland.

Don't Tread On Me
June 18, 2007, 04:51 PM
It is universally accepted that Wolf is filthy ammo. 100rds of that stuff will make my AR dirtier than 250rds of XM193.

But it's cheap and it works.

MechAg94
June 18, 2007, 07:39 PM
Yes, it is dirty. :)

I used .223 in my Armalite. It smells and gets it dirty pretty fast. Much more so than shooting XM193. I have heard that it is bad to shoot brass ammo after shooting steel case as the steel case doesn't seal as well in the chamber and your chamber will get more residue in it that can cause brass cases to stick. The test I saw was using SA .223.

I don't notice in my AK's as I don't shoot much else and it doesn't make much difference.

esmith
June 18, 2007, 08:30 PM
Wolf ammunition does not burn as effectivly as other ammo manufacturers. Therefore it leaves more residue and unburnt powder on the bore.

RockyMtnTactical
June 18, 2007, 09:27 PM
Yes, it is!

cheygriz
June 18, 2007, 09:29 PM
Sure it's dirty. So what? It's cheap, reliable and fairly accurate. And you're supposed to clean your gun after shooting it anyway.:evil:

Ethereal
June 18, 2007, 09:47 PM
Wolf is some dirty ammo...I mean really dirty...like dirty with two R's in it or something. Like it should be called "dirrty".
So anyways Wolf is like a christina aguilera song....what?

esmith
June 19, 2007, 12:01 AM
I know this has been said but im going to say it again. Wolf should really only be used in russian guns (SKS or AK). You can fire it in high end guns but get this. You can shoot off 1000 rounds of wolf in a nice gun, but it can take one round to screw everything up and cause you the money and trouble to fix it. Of course if you save enough money shooting wolf i guess it could outweigh having to fix a gun. That hangs somewhere in the balance.

Feanaro
June 19, 2007, 12:16 AM
Filthy. But it goes bang. One of the best pistoleros I know uses it exclusively for 9mm(and not in a Russian gun :rolleyes:)

dstorm1911
June 19, 2007, 12:23 AM
Yep shouldn't use Wolf in high dollar American guns they aren't as durable and are alot more finicky about ammo and conditions than the cheap commie guns!!

Thats why I like my commie guns moe than my American high dollar guns they were built to handle much harsher conditions, your SKS will eat up a case of Wolf without cleaning and still run as reliably as it did the first 5 rnds, don't worry bout gettin to crazy on the cleaning BUT always clean as for Corrosive ammo as Wolf has been known to use corrosive primers when they get a good deal on the market......

Bartholomew Roberts
June 19, 2007, 12:48 AM
One of the guys at a class I took was using Wolf Polymer. The fouling was so solid and there was so much of it when we broke the rifle down (after yet another stuck case) that we thought part of the bolt had broken off as little solid bits rained out of the upper receiver.

I'd been 50/50 on Wolf until then; but after seeing that there is no way I would use it in my rifles. Some people apparently have no trouble in it; but I don't need to find out if I am one of them that badly.

RockyMtnTactical
June 19, 2007, 01:01 AM
I don't like Wolf because it's not reliable... I get too many blown primers, etc... and it's not very accurate (at least that goes for the FMJ). The fact that it is dirty is the least of my worries.

Barnaul and Bear ammo are much better among steel cased Russian ammo...

Now, the Prvi Partizan brass cased Wolf, that's good stuff...

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