midsize auto


June 18, 2007, 07:47 PM
A week ago, I asked a question about a CCW 9mm, particularly about the Sig225s that Gander mountain are selling. I appreciated the responses (I haven't rushed to buy one), particularly the ones that suggested I wouldn't be gaining much by switching my Taurus PT92 for something like the 225 if I were doing so just for a smaller gun.

That got me wondering. For a guy who wears shirt& tie most days (no coat in SE Texas!), I don't really want to have to stash my large frame auto. I don't want a small frame auto (I tried a few; they don't fit me well, and I really don't want something THAT small. If I'm dropping my hard-earned bucks on a gun, I want something I can use for both CCW and as a range gun.)

So, what's an example of an affordable, good mid-size 9 (let's say <$500, and the lower the better)? If I use my PT92 as a reference as "large", would a SW M&P, Springfield XD or even a Ruger 95 qualify?

Taurus PT92:
Barrel length: 5"; OAL: 8 1/2"; weight: 34oz; width: 1.6"

Ruger p95:
Barrel length: 3.9"; OAL: 7 1/4"; weight: 27oz; width: ?

Springfield XD:
Barrel length: 4"; OAL: 7.3"; weight: 28oz; width:?

S&W M&P:
Barrel length: 4"; OAL: 7.5; weight: 24oz; width: 1.2

As you can see, tHey are all about 8-10 ounces lighter, at least 1" (or more) shorter, and a smidge thinner across the grips than the Taurus. Would such a switch be worth it in "real world" carry situation, or am I dreaming? The other gun I was considering is the 3" Ruger SP101, OAL: 8"; weight: 27oz; width - unknown.

So...what is a "midsize" auto? Please save the Glock referrals. I respect them and admire their reliability; I cannot shoot them well. As my other platforms are all 1911-based, I don't want to have to muscle-train my hands for two different styles. Therefore, please don't recommend the various Glocks, savvy?


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Nomad, 2nd
June 18, 2007, 07:57 PM
Midsized is basically a Comander 1911
Glock 19
That CZ (Po-1 is it?)

5" 1911
Glock 19 and
CZ 75

That work?

PS: have you looked into 'Tuckable' holsters?
Or nice vests?

June 18, 2007, 08:17 PM
Buy a Taurus PT111 Pro 9mm. I got one 3 days ago and have already put 400 flawless rounds through it. Negligible recoil, hi-cap (12), just the right size, great sights, great price and rock solid reliable. Whats not to like?:D

June 18, 2007, 08:20 PM
Have you looked at the Kahr CW9? That's what I consider a small frame 9mm. Last time I saw one NIB, it was marked $425. They get good reviews. Now, would I give up that Taurus for it? Not really.

Looking at Taurus again, how about the PT111 (if you prefer 9mm) Millenium Pro? I personally prefer my PT145.

You might, just might luck out a stumble upon a Steyr S-series. When you find them, they're under $400. Just hard to find.

The Springfield XD, Ruger, and M&P that you list are, sorry, service sized with no real advantage over the Taurus. An inch here, an ounce there, big deal.

Now, a Springfield XD compact might be what you are looking for.

Compact versions of the M&P might bear a good long look. Compact enough for effective concealment in light clothing, but big enough so that range time isn't tedious.

You might also look and see if you can find a S&W SW99 Compact. Price them and see what you can find.

Just keep in mind that these smaller frame guns are nice to have for concealment but they're usually not fun on the range.

Frankly, in your shoes, I'd go with a J-frame (or Taurus equivalent) 5-shot revolver. I carry a S&W 642 (which I bought NIB for $325) in a pocket holster when it gets hot and sticky in VA (as it is now). The heat here can't compare with TX, but I'll bet you don't have to deal with humidity that's higher than the temperature.:D

June 18, 2007, 11:06 PM
Mid-size 9mm: HK USPc 9, P2000, Walther P99 and that one you asked we not speak of ;)

June 18, 2007, 11:07 PM
Bersa Thunder 9 Ultracompact (http://www.bersafirearmsusa.com/detail_bersa9.php)
Length: 6.5"
Width: 1.5"
Height: 4.5"
Barrel: 3.5"
Usually cost around $350, have nice triggers and are fun to shoot alot unlike some smaller pistols.

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