Best plastic ammo boxes?


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Odnar
June 21, 2007, 10:18 AM
I'm looking for 50 or 100 round semi-transparent boxes for handgun rounds (.357, .40, 9mm) or 25 round semi-transparent for shotgun (12 ga, 2 3/4 or 3") rounds. I'll probably buy 10 of each.

I have several MTM (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=256118)brand plastic ammo storage boxes and I like them a lot. ($3.63 each) I've found two brands that are cheaper, the Frankford Arsenal (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=567808) boxes ($20 for 10) and the Cabelas (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat602007-cat601051_TGP&id=0012549214312a&navCount=2&podId=0012549&parentId=cat601051&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IH&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat601051&hasJS=true)brand. ($8 for 4) Anyone had experience with either or can compare them? I'd rather pay a little extra if they're going to break if dropped, etc. Other suggestions for the price? I'm trying to move away from paper/styrofoam boxes.

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cdrt
June 21, 2007, 10:23 AM
A little off the subject, but the best boxes I've ever used are the old Fitz Ammo Safes for .45 ACPs and .38 Specials. They're not transparent, but they last forever. I have some that I bought in 1975 and they're still like new. I think maybe one of the moderators might be able to help you find some. :)

spankaveli
June 21, 2007, 10:25 AM
i just bought some cheapo food storage boxes from walmart for a few bucks each :o

eta:
http://upload.spankdu.com/files/ammotupperware.jpg

Odnar
June 21, 2007, 11:48 AM
i just bought some cheapo food storage boxes from walmart for a few bucks each

Yeah, I'm a bit of an order freak sometimes. I'd bet that you can store a lot more rounds for the money that way though.


...Fitz Ammo Safes for .45 ACPs and .38 Specials. They're not transparent, but they last forever. I have some that I bought in 1975 and they're still like new. I think maybe one of the moderators might be able to help you find some.

Not familiar with those, and Google isn't turning up much. More info?

captain54
June 21, 2007, 11:53 AM
I use both MTM and frankford arsenal. the frankfords cost less and are not built as well as them MTMs. That being said, they aren't bad, but I would rather spend the extra dollar on the MTM.

trickyasafox
June 21, 2007, 12:07 PM
i have a bunch of frankford boxes, and they arent bad at all, but lately, i've been using old sherbet containers they are pretty clear and hold a bit over a hundred rounds for most pistol calibers.

cdrt
June 21, 2007, 12:45 PM
Not familiar with those, and Google isn't turning up much. More info?

Paul "Fitz" Jones, one of the moderators, owned the company that made them. He sells them occassionaly on eBay. Not sure what he still has in stock, but you might send him a PM and ask.

pinkymingeo
June 21, 2007, 12:55 PM
The Frankford boxes are made heavier than Cabela's and will probably last longer, though they both last a long time. Cabela's are easier to see through, which is handy for me because I use a loose label inside the box to tell me what I'm shooting. Cheap as both are, I haven't been able to damage either brand yet.

ReloaderFred
June 21, 2007, 01:00 PM
The best I've found are the Berry's boxes. They come in 4 colors and for just about any caliber you need. They also have a lifetime warranty. You can order them direct at www.berrysmfg.com. I order them in cases of 50 boxes, but they also offer them in 4 packs. A 4 pack of 50 round .45 acp boxes is $6.81, and a case of 50 is $50.39. You'll have to check on shipping, but since I've got a wholesale account with them, they don't charge me shipping on plastic. I'm not sure about shipping on retail orders.

Hope this helps.

Fred

BruceB
June 21, 2007, 01:39 PM
The Frankford (Midway) 50-round boxes are not as secure in latching as the MTMs, and will often spill if dropped from waist- or table-top level. They're also made of a brittler plastic, and will break easier under impact. For hunting or other field use, I prefer and use MTMs.

Having said the above, the FA boxes suit my purposes so well that I must have at least 200 of them in 50-round fliptop style, for both rifle and pistol ammo. The pricing in lots of 10 is attractive, and the boxes serve me well. I also like dealing with Midway, and usually add a ten-lot of ammo boxes to any order I send them.... I NEVER have enough ammo boxes!

ZeSpectre
June 21, 2007, 01:50 PM
I like having one or two 100 round boxes for each caliber so that I can transport to the range and still keep a relatively accurate tally of my round count per gun. Any more ammo than that goes into some old ammo cans I have.

While I like spankaveli's idea, I don't like transparent containers for ammo because it tends to cause my wife to say "isn't that enough?"

ReloaderFred
June 21, 2007, 01:56 PM
ZeSpectre,

My problem is just the opposite. When my wife looks at the ammo shelf and only spots ten 100 round boxes of her favorite ammunition, she tells me I better get busy and start loading again. Then life is good..........

Fred

shadowalker
June 22, 2007, 12:14 AM
MTM boxes are very good and affordable, Midway dealer prices put them at about the same price as Frankford.

dmftoy1
June 22, 2007, 09:01 AM
+1 for Berry's. I really like their covered reloading blocks as well.


That being said, I just started reloading for .357 magnum again after a 20 year layoff . .it was pretty cool to pull out the old MTM boxes an see the date tag and think back to what I was doing the last time I put reloads into that box. :) (reloading in a closet in my college apartment)

Have a good one,
Dave

Peter M. Eick
June 22, 2007, 11:34 AM
Berry's and Midway boxes will "shatter" if dropped in cold weather or on a hard surface.

MTM's will not "in general".

I buy MTM's.

ReloaderFred
June 22, 2007, 01:03 PM
Peter,

You're not supposed to drop them..........

Fred

The Bushmaster
June 22, 2007, 01:16 PM
www.midwayusa.com They have a wide assortment of ammunition storage boxes of all discription, size and color...

Clark
June 22, 2007, 03:31 PM
I buy ammo boxes from these people, and I am happy with them:
http://www.berrysmfg.com/

Odnar
June 22, 2007, 04:04 PM
I think I'll give those Cabella's boxes a try. The main thing I didn't like about them was the color, but I see that they're available in smoke too. Thanks, everyone!

Peter M. Eick
June 22, 2007, 05:50 PM
I know I was not supposed to drop them, but things happen at times.....

highlander 5
June 22, 2007, 06:06 PM
I've had both midway and MTM boxes and the MTM are MUCH sturdier.Dropped a midway box down a flight of stairs and it shattered,midway replaced it.
I DROVE over an MTM box scuffed it up some returned it for a replacement.
I've got MTM cases that are at least 15 yrs old and they still latch tight

Peter M. Eick
June 22, 2007, 06:22 PM
Alright, I have to admit I have some experience with MTM boxes. They are stronger, last longer and don't break when you drop them. But in the spirit of showing that actions speak louder then words, here is pictures of my stash of them:

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/loaded_mtms.jpg

This is the loaded ammo collection. (yes those are all loaded and yes there are a bunch stacked up under the bench) The cans in front are the brass to be loaded.

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/mtm_spares.jpg

These are my spares for when I start loading again.


Sorry about the messy work bench and storage area. I am getting ready to shoot my Inland 30 carbine tomorrow so I am getting stuff ready to go. If you notice I do have a few Midway dark grey ones in there so I do know they break.

Mal H
June 22, 2007, 09:15 PM
Holy mackeral, Peter! I thought I had a bunch of cases, but I doubt I have 1/5th of what you have! (But, I might have more Laser-Cast bullets than you, unless you've got a bunch more that are out of the picture. ;) )

I have a good assortment of 3 brands - MTM, Frankford Arsenal (Midway) and Berry's. The MTM's are definitely better. They are made with a softer, more pliable, and yet stronger plastic. They also have a better stacking design in that each case has corner "feet" on the bottom that will lock inside the rectangular ridge on each top. The other brands have no provision for stacking like that. That alone is a good reason to pay a little extra for MTM.

I don't see a big difference, if any, between Berry's and FA. I'd be willing to bet they are made by the same manufacturer. Some of them have a better lid lock than others. The best I can describe them is that the "good" ones have a latch that engages a thin strip along the top center of the bottom portion. The "bad" ones, that tend to open too easily, have a latch with a rectangular indentation that engages a rectangle with the same shape on the body of the case. I have cases of both brands with the 2 different latch designs, but more of the good type of latch than the bad.

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You can see the result of the stacking feature in Peter's second picture. Although he doesn't have them all centered and therefore the feet are not all engaged with the top of the case below, most of the 3rd column from the right appear to be MTM's (from the latch design) and are stacked high without falling. The 2nd column from the right only has a few cases which all appear to be Midway brand, yet they are obviously not stacking well and if he stacked them as high as the other columns, I'll bet they would fall over.

Peter M. Eick
June 22, 2007, 10:51 PM
Yes I have a lot more bullets from Oregon Trails stashed in the garage and back in deep storage. I try to keep the primers, powder and bullets in reasonable quantities and distributed around a bit. My wife's a civil engineer and she warned me about point loads on the foundation.

Your observations about the stacking are correct. The midway's do not stack well. I have a color coding system that works well for me. Anything that is to be reloaded or saved is in a blue mtm box. Anything in any other color is brass that will be trashed at the end of this reloading. Some is for age or wear, but mostly it is off brand stuff. Amerc, CBC etc.

This way when I grab a box I can tell instantly if I intended to keep the brass. Also you notice every box has a label. Each label has the load and is serial numbered to a spreadsheet and word document which keeps track of what I was trying to do with that load and what the experiment was.

When I sit and look at it, I realize I am too much of a physicist. :eek:

asknight
June 23, 2007, 03:42 AM
Nice carbine, Peter! :neener::D

pinkymingeo
June 23, 2007, 05:42 AM
CBC isn't off-brand, it's Magtech. Good stuff. Amerc belongs in the trash can.

hornadylnl
June 23, 2007, 08:18 AM
http://www.natchezss.com/brand.cfm?brand=MT&mfgSubGroup=5772

Try Natchez. They carry 100 round MTM boxes for about $2.20 each.

Peter M. Eick
June 23, 2007, 08:24 AM
"usually" Natchez will not ship just one color. That is how I got a bunch of mixed color boxes and had to order from Midway and my local dealer. If color matters to you, be careful ordering from Natchez.

Asknight,

Thanks for the comments on the M1 carbine. Its a 6.6mm Inland that was rebuilt in 1950 and sat ever since. So far it has only had about 300 rounds down it in the last 57 years. I will probably shoot another 300 tomorrow. 5 lbs 4 onz trigger right now. I picked up a spare stock, bolt and parts over the last month and a bunch of mags and pouches.

jvik
June 24, 2007, 04:43 PM
I just checked some of my old ammo boxes. They were purchased in the early 60's. Heavy soft plastic with slip over covers. Absolutely no manufacturer's markings. They all look like they're good for another 40 years:-)

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