Day planner concealed carry?

[leadcounsel]

Anyone use a day planner and what are your experiences?

I'm looking for one that is also compatible, or has interior pocket for a palm or ipaq type planner.


Thanks,

[Rustynuts]

Saw one at the last gunshow. Looked decent, if somewhat "fat". Seems like it would keep things concealed, yet accessible at raucous board meetings!

[valor1]

It's too big and bulky. People will think that you are obviously carrying something else.

[geekWithA.45]

I use mine for low profile, "no probable cause" transport.

Beats a blue box with the words "Smith & Wesson" on it.

[Peanut15]

I use one that I made from an old planner from work. Velcroed the inside and the back of an Uncle Mike's holster. It keeps the gun pretty secure. I mainly use it in the car.

[Avenger]

I've seen a Glock in an older, bulkier style of dayplanner. Couldn't tell it from an actual planner with the zipper closed. And I've seen a Kel-Tec in a PDA case that was modified with some thick plastic inserts.

[tinygnat219]

Haven't seen too many options. I beleive Galco has a few samples. I generally dislike off-body carry as a general rule though. I like to be in control of where my pistol is attached to my body.

[The Kershaw]

Conceal carry in anything other than a holster on your body is just dumb. Sorry for being blunt but there are too many things that can go wrong.

[Jorg]

I have one I bought about 12 years ago. It got very little use. Even removing the tags, it still had something obviously "different" about it. Never hung quite right by the handles and made a bit of a thud when you set it down.

[seansean]

"Conceal carry in anything other than a holster on your body is just dumb. Sorry for being blunt but there are too many things that can go wrong."

Yup. Let me tell you what I did once. I had a friend stay with me-I may have posted this before, I don't remember :) anyway, I had a 9mm stashed in one of those dayplanner things..now, my buddy brought a lot of stuff with him, and this is a studio apt-needless to say, the place was a mess with things everywhere after a few days...so, he leaves, and I go to clean up the apt, first thing I reach for is the dayplanner, where I usually keep it near my desk. It's not there. It's gone.

I freak out and turn the place upside down, and can't find it anywhere. I spend hours looking under every nook and cranny, and there aren't that many places to look, but I look again and again, thinking, maybe someone broke in and grabbed it, maybe my buddy grabbed it unwittingly, etc. finally I realize that it just isn't in my apt. I decide to report it lost/stolen, which means a trip to the LAPD, hollywood division. Off I go, and I report it lost/stolen, cop at the desk asks a few questions, then sends me to a detective, who asks a few questions, then I'm done and out. I go home, finish cleaning up, grab my laundry and head to a laundromat. get there, start forking clothes into the washer from my hamper, and what do I find in my hamper, covered in clothes?

My dayplanner with gun inside. It never occurred to me to look in my clothes hamper. I have no idea why I would put it there.

so now, I'm in los angeles, in a laundromat, armed with a loaded gun that I just reported stolen, and of course no permit to carry. I immediately hi-tail it back to LAPD, explain what happened, then they laughed at me and abused me a little, which I richly deserved. From now on, it's in the gun safe for me, nothing fancy.

[rdaines]

I still like packs and fanny packs. Granted they can get away from you too but there are times when a OWB or IWB just doesn't work. I think the shoulder holster is a great idea but I don't wear jackets enough.

[rolltide]

I don't like off body carry either. There are too many probabilities of it getting lost or picked up by someone else or not being at hand when I need it. At home the gun is in the punch button safe (I still have children at home). In the car it is on me or in the console. I suppose the planner is as safe as the console, except no friend riding in the car is going to accidently pick up my console as they are getting out of my car. Even if they don't take your "planner", if they pick it up for any reason, even to hand it to you, you are busted and they will know it is not just a planner, unless you have a little P3AT in there that doesn't weigh enough to tip them off. Overall, outside of my home or my car, my CCW is ON me; inside my home or car, there are better options if it is not on me.

Roll Tide

[ChickenHawk]

I'm with the crowd on this one. If you choose off-body carry you'd better plan on not ever putting that day planner down. I can't imagine going through the day carrying that thing every second.

If you put it down someone else may pick it up, or you might walk away from it. My guess is that over time you'd find yourself wandering farther and farther from it out of sheer complacency. That's a recipe for failure.

On your body none of these issues exist. It's by far the best option.

Cheers,
ChickenHawk

[jack the toad]

I use mine to its full advantage. I carry 2 Glocks, OC, Surefire, knife and an Asp in one plus have it lined with old body armor panels to use as a makeshift shield.
Not really but the thought has crossed my mind.
I don't care for off body carry even though there may be times when it's appropriate.

[DMK]

I could see maybe carrying a Kel-tec P32 or 3AT in one, but anything thicker is going to look odd. Remember, thin is in for the business world. We have thinner phones, thinner PDAs, thinner Notebooks, and thinner planners. Anything bulky looks out of date and odd.

[TimboKhan]

Conceal carry in anything other than a holster on your body is just dumb. Sorry for being blunt but there are too many things that can go wrong.

I don't think this is true all the time. The biggest problem, I think, is that there are some really, really dumb options out there for CCW off-body. That doesn't mean that there aren't some good ones! The first thing that comes to mind is the CCW Purse. Probably a little goofy for a guy, but for a woman wearing a dress or something along those lines, it is a perfectly good way to carry a gun. I think the dayplanner idea is also a good one, although I can't see the advantage of using it as a main carry option. I think using it as a way to get a gun from point A to point B, when carrying it on yourself isn't possible, is a perfectly good plan. I know that a lot of you would say that "I never take my gun off, and can't see why this would be useful", but I frequently have to unholster my revolver, and having an inconspicous place to store it would be a godsend.

Really, I think it boils down to common sense and forethought. If you want to carry non-traditionally, your going to have to make some changes to your habits. Going out jogging with your dayplanner isn't going to work any better than wearing a shoulder holster swimming at the public pool.

[The Law]

Here's something that might work:

http://dillonprecision.com/template/p.cfm?maj=29&min=0&dyn=1&

[DMK]

I agree with TimboKhan. While it certainly has it's disadvantages and limitations, off body can be a good option in certain situations. For example, if you are driving between different locations and a few places that you need to go don't allow CCW. Unholstering your weapon and stashing it in a car, then reholstering it when you are done can be difficult to do discreetly do in a public parking lot. I'm also of the belief that unnecessarily handling a loaded firearm in such an environment could lead to accidents. Off body carry would allow you to secure your weapon in your vehicle more discreetly and safely. For example, few people would even raise an eyebrow to someone locking a PDA case in the trunk of their car before entering a building.

[Tom Fury]

I agree with DMK: There are times when the ability to "hide in plain sight" for a short move say to the trunk or out of a briefcase are facilitated by something as everyday innocuous as a planner.
I don't need a planner to hide a P3AT; the purpose is to conceal something larger that for some reason is not coing to conceal well given the way I'm dressed; this is usually spelled summer/I don't like mouseguns.
I agree with everything said about too much can go wrong; its' just too easy to forget and leave it in the booth in a restaurant; having said that, it also develops in you a certain amount of paranoia that you will do that that guards against it. I usually put something else with it that I won't leave without (car keys carabinered to zipper also facilitates quick opening).
Its' not my primary method of concealment, but I don't have just one for all occasions; its' but one in a repertoire and they all have their downsides and things to be careful of when I'm doing it; goes with the armed lifestyle.
I like the Dillon planner and the Jandd journal cover.
Glock 30 in a Meade "Fat Little Planner" with spare mag is just about perfect. Must pick one with covers stiff enough to disguise shape, in any color but Tacblack.
Cheers, Tom Fury

[RadioTech]

http://www.jagwear.com/jgwr1-10.htm


I carry a Colt Officer's and spare mag in this. It works for summer when its too hot for a cover and too formal for shirt out or fanny pack. The organizer is fully functional and the calculator works. Space for business cards or credit cards is provided as well as a zipper pouch in the front cover.
Only down side was the tiny snaps on the closure. I replaced them with full size snaps like on jeans. I can carry the whole thing by slipping a finger through the loop formed by the closure. There are two snaps for a tighter or looser closure.

[Rex B]

I have a zip-up CD case my wife brought back from a trade show. The cover was fairly stiff. I found that by removing the CD pockets inside, it fits a 1911 with room to spare. Good way to keep one in the glovebox or console, or to transport.

[rdaines]

I have a zip-up CD case my wife brought back from a trade show. The cover was fairly stiff. I found that by removing the CD pockets inside, it fits a 1911 with room to spare. Good way to keep one in the glovebox or console, or to transport.

Cool idea, using everyday things to hide a defensive tool.