[IN>IL]

Now Jesse is the victim...


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070623jackson-arrested,1,5700739.story?coll=chi-news-hed

[trueblue1776]

splendid

[jselvy]

I respectfully withdraw my previously stated opinions of Illinois PD. It appear that they have some integrity after all.

Jefferson

[Gaiudo]

Now if we can just keep this FRAUD from getting a martyr's response from his cult following.....

[PILMAN]

About time.

[meef]

No big deal.

Getting arrested is what Jesse Jackson wanted. It's part of what he does for a living, these media events. It's not like it's going to cost him anything. On the contrary, he can just add it to his litany of how unfair the system is to him and his.

Jesse Jackson, like his counterpart Al Sharpton, (both pious and selfless men of the cloth, you realize) is one of the biggest political prostitutes on the face of the planet.

I wish somebody could make that dude go get a real job.

If you're listening, :cuss:, Jesse.

[Shipwreck]

Pathetic...

[Kelly J]

We could not be so lucky as to have them forget where they put the key, so as not to be able to let him out, he is probably the worst enemy of any Black person in this Country.

[armoredman]

No matter what happens to him it is further "proof" that the White Man "hates and fears" him, and the Black Man " is always being oppressed", regardless of the truth that put him in jail. Not to mention all the Hollywood starlets who'll pay his bail.
The only way to eliminate JJ, is to ignore him.

[Crunker1337]

Why was he arrested?

[Crunker1337]

Why was he arrested?

WOW why are so many posts appearing. I didn't do it on purpose

[Cosmoline]

Sorry, but this means nothing. Jackson has been arrested like this hundreds of times. He gets arrested on purpose, much like the showboating "priest" he was with at the time.

[Dgindlesperger]

What happened to three three strike law :what:

[Titan6]

Who cares what he was arrested for? This is all about bashing JJ WOOHOO! GO HIGH ROAD!

[Mazeman]

And what was he protesting at the gun store?

The legality of guns?

[Dravur]

if we bothered your tender sensibilities, Titan. From now on, we shall only discuss the Good Rev Jackson with only the highest praise and admiration. If he calls all of us white supremist scumbags, well we shall give him a wag of our finger and say, "Oh, that scallywag" and we shall have some tea.

When he and the priest advocate murdering a gun shop dealer, well, we shall simply put our noses in the air and quietly shake our heads in displeasure...

Would this be ok for you?

If you would like to bend over and take one for the good rev, go for it. I shall speak far and wide of the "good Rev's" misdealings, distortions and extortions. He needs to be drug out from the rock he crawls into, shown to the world for what he is and publicly humiliated. Until that day is done, I shant be giving you the time of day.

...puts nose in the air, nods in displeasure...

[Kentak]

Who cares what he was arrested for? This is all about bashing JJ WOOHOO! GO HIGH ROAD!

LOL. Best thing I've read all day.

K

[Kentak]

Better he should have barricaded himself in a compound and dared the JBTs to come and get him for violating his Constitutional rights.

[MikePGS]

I just hope that Jackson doesn't lose his job because he got arrested...

[mike101]

So, if the cops can arrest Jackson for protesting, then they should be able to arrest anyone, right? Like Westboro Baptist Church members, maybe? :evil:

[Titan6]

Draur- Here I was all depressed over the high price of ammo until your childish rant gave me a belky laugh. Please add me to your ignore list right away.

[Crunker1337]

To account for never_retreat's edit
I used to not think that was a THR-appropriate comment...

[SoCalShooter]

Looks like showboating trying to get some big media attention to shine light on the issue. Nothing new.

[Neo-Luddite]

Now, unless I am wrong, 'scallywag' refers historically to a disloyal Southerner who helped or enabled a Yankee Carpetbagger following The War Between The States (or the War of Northern Agression or Civil War, as you like)



Well, after I think about it, maybe he is just a Scallywag after all.

Heck, why not?

[illspirit]

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=5415826

June 23, 2007 - Rev. Jesse Jackson was among those arrested while demonstrating outside a south suburban gun shop. Father Michael Pleger was also arrested.

They were released around 3:45 p.m. Saturday, but they were back inside the police station in Riverdale Saturday evening talking to the police and trying to press charges against the gun shop owner who called the police on them.

The arrests stemmed from a gun control march that Saturday afternoon. Chuck's Gun Shop has often been linked to guns that are later used in crimes. Therefore, it is a frequent target of gun control activists.

Jackson and Pfleger claim that, at one point, they were invited in by the gun shop owner, but they declined, fearing for their safety. They also claim that the shopkeeper pushed Reverend Jackson just before they were arrested.

" The police believe that store has a right to lock us out and that is not offensive to push us physically," Jackson said.

"We stopped nobody from going in or coming out," Pfleger said. "They said we were being arrested for trespassing. According to what is written on my paper, [we] 'knowingly entered and remained on the property.' I never entered anything. I was standing on the sidewalk."

Reverend Jackson is pressing charges against the gun shop owner for what he said was an assault on his person. The incident only intensifies activists desire to see the doors to the gun shop shut.

Marchers will be at the shop again on Friday at noon.

ABC7 Chicago spoke to the gun shop owner and he also said that he invited Jackson and Pfleger in, and when they did not accept his invitation to come in and talk to him, that is when he called the police. However, he did not address charges as to whether he pushed or did not push Reverend Jackson.

The plot thickens..

[Titan6]

The best part were the adjacent headlines:

''Stabbing Victim Found in Burning Dumpster''

''City Leaders Call To Increase Gay Visitors''

Makes me glad I live where I do.

[ConstitutionCowboy]

If it wasn't for guns, Jessie Jackson and all who are descended from slaves would still be slaves. The use of guns set them free. The use of guns in the future might be necessary to keep EVERYONE free. If I were Jessie Jackson, I'd be touting the benefits guns have on our society, and how a war was raged with guns to free his ancestors, and as recent as in this past century to keep the neighborhoods where they live safe from marauding Negro haters. Surely he can call up Condi Rice and ask her about her dad...

Jessie Jackson is nothing more than a race pimp in my opinion. I believe he is immoral and a disgrace to the cloth as well.

Woody

[wolfman01]

Only a race pimp? I'd say this guy is every bit as racist as the worst KKK members. If anyone actually believes that he truly wants any "solutions" to his delusions of rampant discrimination, he knows full well that it would mean the end of his excuses to feed his addiction to crying fowl on the liberal media's cameras.

[JWarren]

+1 wolfman


Victimization is a cottage industry in this country-- one that he has exploited and it's made him rich. He isn't alone in this industry, either.

Sadly, if he and his some of his compatriots were of another race, they would have nice bios listed on the ADL's "Hatewatch." I call em the way I see em. Double Standards are a no-no.

Guess I'll be on a few ignore lists, too.


-- John

[armedandsafe]

meef, your name calling has to stop. There is no call to be mean and base about these things. There are prostitutes all over the world who are hurt and demeaned by your slur, comparing them to such as JJ. :D

Pops

[teknoid]

I'm curious about one thing. Having lived in the Chicago area, I know you need a permit to do just about anything. A demonstration is most definitely one of them. Is this group being given a permit to protest every day? If not, they should all be arrested every time they show up (disturbing the peace). If they ARE in possession of a permit, the person who issued it should be fired (or arrested).

[Matt King]

To make this more PC for Crunker1337 I will add this line.
*I think*
This calls for a hanging. I've got the rope who's bringing the tree?

That's incorrect. I know of another way.


This thread is disgusting.

[Nanook]

I just hope that Jackson doesn't lose his job because he got arrested...

Classic! Understated, and quite funny. Almost like Monty Python. I love it.

As far as the two of them getting arrested, what's the charge? Impersonating a man of the cloth?

Pfleger needs to stay in jail and answer for his inciting murder a couple of weeks ago.

Jackson I have no answer for, unless we buy him a camera he can stand in front of all day. Once that little red light comes on, he'd be mesmerized.

[McCall911]

Poor JJ gives us enough to laugh about on his own. He doesn't need anybody's help, thank you very much. :D

Got a feeling one of the mods is going to arrest this thread, though. :uhoh:

[Crunker1337]

While he was being an idiot, he wasn't doing anything illegal.... and he had the Constitutional right to protest.

Much as I dislike Mr. Jackson and his viewpoints, in this case it would be far more dangerous to punish him than to allow him to keep protesting.

[jselvy]

He should be punished, not for protesting but for "accessory to incitement to riot" and "criminal conspiracy to commit murder"

Jefferson

[Matt King]

Listen to yourselves! Two member of The High Road, have advocated Mr. Jacksons murder! For crying out loud, this is despicable! Imagine if an anti-gunner saw this thread, they would have a field day.

This thread makes me lose faith in THR.

[Clipper]

Didn't JJ once say that minorities, by definition can't be racists...?

Oh, and Texas? Is that your schtic? You always seem to be looking for things to be horrified about...

[Matt King]

Oh, and Texas? Is that your schtic? You always seem to be looking for things to be horrified about...

No, unlike some people I am disturbed when someone calls for the murder of another person. Just how I was raised.~ :rolleyes:

[Titan6]

Not just a murder but a good old fashioned lynching of a negro. I am sure there are proud parents everywhere now that little Johnny has figured out how to use the computer.

Very high road indeed.

[Autolycus]

Its funny when everyone was concerned about the words "snuff out" here we have posters calling for his murder:

Originally posted by SnakeEater:

The only way to eliminate JJ, is to ignore him.

That's incorrect. I know of another way.

And...

Originally posted by never retreat:
To make this more PC for Crunker1337 I will add this line.
*I think*
This calls for a hanging. I've got the rope who's bringing the tree?

never retreat, what you posted is not taking the high road. Why would you want to murder someone? It seems pretty sick that you would want to hang him for protesting and for exercising his rights? Your the kind of person who gives gunowners a bad name when you start asking to hang people for disagreeing with you.

[SoCalShooter]

I agree he has the right to protest, but does the media and his own community not see that he is doing this for attention? And it is really negative attention if you ask me, not something I would expect from someone who is suppost to be a rev.

Also, I am not black so I am unable to answer this but does the black community really think he is trying to help them? Do they even pay attention to him anymore?

[Autolycus]

Do I remember that some were trying to get Father Pfedger arrested for threats and now never retreat makes a threat but I dont see anyone calling for his arrest. Got to love the hypocrisy here.

[1911austin]

While he was being an idiot, he wasn't doing anything illegal.... and he had the Constitutional right to protest.

Much as I dislike Mr. Jackson and his viewpoints, in this case it would be far more dangerous to punish him than to allow him to keep protesting.


They were arrested for trespassing. Giving the high profile nature of this situation I would think that the police would not have arrested them without evidence that a crime was committed.

[JohnBT]

"This thread is disgusting."

It lacks the originality needed to qualify as disgusting. Juvenile is more like it.

There's a little "report this post" icon on the left side every post. I don't use it often, but it's there.

John

[jeepmor]

Arrested for protesting guns in nanny state Illinois, beautiful.

[Matt King]

There's a little "report this post" icon on the left side every post. I don't use it often, but it's there.

Yup, I have used it too. This thread sure merits it.

[Tomcat47]

:cuss: :banghead: :cuss: :banghead: :cuss:

now I feel better :)

Theres nothing else to say, but where was brother Al?

[Crunker1337]

woodcdi, you make a good point. If Americans didn't have guns we'd still be pions of the British, and they wouldn't have been forced to change their ways, they'd still have slavery, and we'd still have slavery.

SoCalShooter, you pose an interesting question. I don't know of many people that take notice of JJ. I don't think that there's such a thing as the "black community"; it seems totally stupid to me to group 50 Cent and Collin Powell together merely because they're of the same human subspecies.

I don't think he was tresspassing if he wasn't on the owner's property...

I wouldn't mind seeing never_retreat being placed under arrest. He openly called for the murder of someone merely based on the fact that they think differently than he does and voice their opinions. "Pro-gunners" like him we can do without.
There was a huge call on THR to arrest Pfleger for calling for the "snuffing out" of another person, why don't we all band together and demand the arrest of never_retreat?

[Titan6]

Crunker 1337- Please submit the link showing the biological ''sub species'' of human that 50 Cent and Colin Powell are a part of. I am really curious what that is. Unless you have gone from openly racist to merely overtly racist.

[Kael]

Titan6,
I can't speak for another, but to me "subspecies" read as subset of a species. Just as could be used to describe caucasian.
Inaccurate, perhaps, but didn't strike me as racist.

Respectfully,

[Titan6]

Kael- Then you would be wrong. Sub species is a very specific term. The only sub species of HSS are extinct. Blacks, whites, asian every living human are all of the same sub species.

Perhaps if he had not started with the lynching comment I would not wonder but combine the two together and the comments speak for themselves.

[SoCalShooter]

RE: crunker1337

As for the comparison of Colin Powell and 50cent being lumped into the same group each race has its highs and lows, I was just wondering what the black community (as they and several other of their prominent members) have reffrenced themselves as, I wanted to know what they thought of them, I talked to a friend of mine here and he thinks that both the rev.jesse jackson and al sharpton are a joke and a bad image for the community. I was hoping for a few more comments.

[foob]

Maybe he was protesting high ammo prices.

Oh crap too late topic has veered off somewhere else.

[Don Gwinn]

Well, this thread started out as gloating, went from there to lynching, and from there has gone on to ever greater heights. To everyone who tried to yank this monster back onto the High Road, thank you. The willingness of members to take care of THR themselves has always been its greatest strength.

To some others, what are you thinking? You people realize where you are, right? You understand that this site is called "The High Road" specifically because the act of taking the high road as a default position is supposed to be what defines this place?

We don't do lynching here. We just don't do it, period. No excuses. I don't care if it's OK because the guy you want to lynch is a bad guy, a race pimp, a LeftyLib or a NeoCon or whoever it is that you hate.

Here's how it is, folks: people are going to be getting banned from this forum permanently in large numbers for awhile until I'm not embarrassed to be associated with it anymore. If you don't want to be one of them, re-read the very simple, very short list of forum rules and follow them.

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[JWarren]

Titan6 wrote:

Kael- Then you would be wrong. Sub species is a very specific term. The only sub species of HSS are extinct. Blacks, whites, asian every living human are all of the same sub species.

Perhaps if he had not started with the lynching comment I would not wonder but combine the two together and the comments speak for themselves.


Based upon my limited Anthropology exposure a LONG time ago, I believe Titan6 is correct. I believe Kael is getting subspecies and race confused.

If I remember Anthro 101 correctly, there are only 3 "races" in existence: Caucasian, Negroid, and Mongoloid. This represents European, African, and Asianic peoples respectfully. Subspecies is an entirely different concept, but frankly I'm not versed enough to discuss it-- unless we are talking about such thing as Cromagon, Peking, Neandertal, etc. If that is the case, they didn't fair to well on the whole quest for dominance thingy.


On the ugly topic of this thread. Seriously guys. I don't care for JJ and a few of his contemporaries-- and I've voiced that on this thread. At the same time, I would NEVER advocate any harm come to him or anyone else. In fact, to borrow a well-quoted phrase: I may disagree with what he says, but I will fight with my life for his right to say it. I would hope that he would do the same for me.

I know JJ evokes strong emotions with many persons-- just like David Duke will in many as well. But please... dont' let that passion become something ugly and ethically, morally, and decency lacking.


-- John