My Grandfathers old Browning...
ROSCO
June 24, 2007, 12:47 AM
Hey folks, I have a few questions about this old gun. My grandfather passed away before I was born but when I came of age my father gave me this gun that belonged to his father. I have had it know for about 20 years and only shot it a few times. It is a Browning A-5 Light 12ga. 2 3/4". The barrel has a Cutts Compensator Choke system on it. I looked on the Browning web site for serial number info. This is what I found.
1949 270001-285000
The number on the bottom of my receiver has only 5 digits and starts with 7. Is this right? Is my gun a 1949 production?
I would like some advise as far as getting a different barrel for this gun because it does not pattern very well with the current setup. Can I get a barrel that fits this gun with the "Invector Plus" screw in chokes? I would like to use it for clays, dove, and maybe waterfowl.
Any advise on this model gun will help. And what is the "LIGHT" stand for, this gun weighs 8.4#
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zinj
June 24, 2007, 01:09 AM
The Browning "Light" 12 has additional machining done to make the gun a bit lighter than the standard model. IIRC my example with a 28" vent-rib barrel weighs about 7-3/4 pounds, although the Cutts probably has added extra weight to yours.
On the topic of the Cutts Compensator, they were equipped with a primitive choke tube system, although the tubes are hard to find. You should be able to replace the barrel with a more recent one (although they are $$$), but I think you will need to replace the recoil system too. If I remember correctly the Cutts guns had a weaker recoil spring and were missing other parts, because the Cutts significantly reduced the force of the barrel's movement. You can find new recoil assemblies on the auction sites and maybe some of the parts sellers like Numrich; they are often sold as rebuild kits.
MR.squirle
June 25, 2007, 01:17 PM
what action is it?
axeman_g
June 25, 2007, 01:50 PM
"Light" is ironic in the gun, I have one and it is far from light in my opinion. It is much lighter then a standard A5 12g. These are big shotguns, stought and durable. Easy to shoot field loads in and handle waterfowl loads well.
In your case, since it is a family gun and your want it to be taken care of, I would contact Browning customer service. They will help you out. If you need a new barrel they have them, keep the original though. Ask about what Zinj spoke of, the reduced spring weights, I had never heard of that before and I would love to hear from them on the subject. They may ask you to send the gun to them, I would go ahead and do it unless you have a great gunsmith friend that you trust. Brownings new barrels have the Invector Plus chokes in them. Personally, I prefer fixed chokes, but I dont try to shoot all game birds with one gun, I use the lack of flexible chokes as an excuse to get more guns.
ROSCO
June 25, 2007, 03:20 PM
Thanks. I think I'll call Browning. I really thought there would have been more from all the folks here. No problem.
zinj
June 25, 2007, 04:19 PM
Browning didn't keep real good track of serial numbers until after WWII. If you tell us what kind of safety it has that can help narrow down the age.
JohnBT
June 25, 2007, 04:37 PM
I looked at the serial number list in the back of the Blue Book, but didn't come up with much. Does your serial number have a letter or letters in it?
The Light guns weighed about 10 ounces less than the standard Auto-5. The standard A-5 weighed about 7-1/3 to 8 pounds.
"5 digits and starts with 7" fits the standard A-5 series from about 1926 or 1929 IIRC, well before the introduction of the Lightweight.
Where on the gun does it say lightweight? Just curious.
John
ROSCO
June 25, 2007, 11:28 PM
Hey John, Yes it has a "G" over the serial number. This is from the Browning web site.
"1957 Serial Numbering System changed again. M=Standard Weight. G=Light Weight. M22000-M85000
G23001-85000 "
Here are a few pics...
59904
59905
59906
59907
59908
ROSCO
June 25, 2007, 11:45 PM
What does this stand for ??? IIRC :confused:
Black Majik
June 26, 2007, 12:07 AM
Nice A-5!
IIRC means If I Remember Correctly...
ROSCO
June 26, 2007, 12:22 AM
Thank you. 2 times:)
tbotts
June 26, 2007, 01:24 AM
Your shotgun was made between Jun and Dec of 1957.
Yes, you can purchase an Invector or Invector plus barrel and use it in your firearm.
Check Ebay; Midwest Gun Works; BrowningA5; or Barrel Exchange for an extra barrel. You could also try any one of the online firearm auction sites for a barrel. I would recommend the invector plus barrel, it may be easier to get choke tubes. The invector and invector plus choke tubes do not interchange!
Ebay may also have some extra choke tubes for your cutts barrel.
19-3Ben
June 26, 2007, 01:38 AM
Damn. That gun is in NICE shape!!!!! very very beautiful.
Smoke
June 26, 2007, 07:43 AM
That old humpback will outlast your grandkids. Congratulations on a spectacular gun.
Smoke
Kingcreek
June 26, 2007, 10:24 AM
Since nobody else mentioned it...
Before any more shooting, please take a few minutes to get familiar with the friction ring set-up and make sure all the parts are there and installed properly.
Nice old A5, congratulations.
ROSCO
June 26, 2007, 12:50 PM
Thanks guys. Keep the information rolling! The pictures don't show some of the flaws or "character" that this gun has. The wood shows some wear on the edges, and it looks like the reciever was cleaned with steel wool or something. No matter, the gun is priceless to me. It is one of three items given to me that were my grandfathers. The other two, a 10" adjustable wrench and a leather cased 100' tape measure.
salty
June 26, 2007, 01:19 PM
Yes you can get a Japanese made barrel - unfortunately it will cost you as much as the shotgun is worth. I would look at having a gunsmith: 1. take the cutts off and restore barrel to factory and 2. give shotgun a through cleaning - they are very tricky to clean inside receiver. Understand the shotgun is designed for shooting upland birds - that is why the 2 3/4" is not a handicap. Use it for that purpose and you will be happy.
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