Substitutes for Tannerite? Home made? Cheaper?


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Outlaws
June 24, 2007, 09:47 PM
Since Tannerite seems to be 4 items (2 in each item to be mixed when ready to use), is there a cheaper way to make a legal substance on par with this stuff?

I just bought a 1/2lb bottle and will be taking it out sometime. I don't think I will be shooting it this summer though because its really dry here and I am not about to be that guy.

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bogie
June 24, 2007, 11:10 PM
Small baggies of flour can be interesting. No noise, but they poof pretty good.

Outlaws
June 24, 2007, 11:16 PM
Small baggies of flour can be interesting. No noise, but they poof pretty good.

lol.....so does the ground when I miss. :evil:

Neo-Luddite
June 24, 2007, 11:33 PM
There are probably many, but for most of us--myself included--making impact explosives may be illegal and at least hazardous. I did more than my share as a kid, and I always like to read up on things still---but I like my hands and fingers attached.

There is a very good and serious chemistry/explosive forum that might have answers:
{redacted by moderator}

They have extensive resources and formulary. They don't suffer fools from what I've seen.

PTK
June 24, 2007, 11:48 PM
Mega and NBK aren't exactly legal users of chemical knowledge. Do watch the laws when you go to use any information from RogueSci.

GlowinPontiac
June 24, 2007, 11:54 PM
if your a good shot you can clamp some empty shotgun hulls with live primers to a 2x4 and try to pick them off with a .22

just be sure to secure the shells good so they dont go flying backwards.

Neo-Luddite
June 25, 2007, 12:41 AM
And I'd add to PTK's warning---they can be very arrogant and heavy handed.
Good material--some horrible personalities and ego trips.


How about vinegar and baking soda in a 2 litre bottle? If you hit it while it's upright with a .22, the pressure will force it to (in effect) circumcise itself and blow it's top 'cone' off. You could do that with dry ice, too----but THAT gets a bit risky. I don't know that it would be illegal, but you'd really have to watch it. The pressure can build up pretty quick once the top is on. Dry ice is available at some walmarts and ice cream chain stores ('33' flavors). Watch your eyes (goggles) and Don't use glass or very hard plastic.

RNB65
June 25, 2007, 12:46 AM
Search the net and you'll find recipes for homemade binary explosives. Tannerite is basically {redacted by moderator} with a dash of Tabasco and a pinch of salt thrown in for seasoning. Fun stuff. :)

MisterPX
June 25, 2007, 03:29 AM
There was an ingredient list floating around a while back, make your own. A lot of {redacted by moderator}, IIRC.

cloudcroft
June 25, 2007, 03:35 AM
Neo-Luddite,

Tannerite is NOT illegal.

-- John D.

PTK
June 25, 2007, 03:40 AM
Once Tannerite is mixed it may not be transported or stored legally without a BATFE high-explosives license and approved storage facility.

Torque
June 25, 2007, 03:48 AM
Laws, laws, and more laws! Is it still legal for me to piss upright? Or for that matter piss at all? Sooner or later they are going to take away our frickin thoughts!

The messed up thing is they want to keep people from building bombs that take lives for terror, but the damn TV tells the whole world how to make bombs and even how nuclear fusion is obtained. Like a frickin video recipe book!!

PTK
June 25, 2007, 03:54 AM
I believe Tannerite is considered kin to "flashpowders" such as the powder used in military artillery simulators (M-80s and the like) and counts as a high-explosive.

The BATFE doesn't have to allow Tannerite to be sold as a two part system ready to mix and shoot to blow it up. They could easily say that since it can be mixed and stored there is intent to store high-explosives illegally.

shooting time
June 25, 2007, 07:52 AM
the formula is {redacted by moderator} the An has to be ground up or prilled

Cannonball888
June 25, 2007, 08:49 AM
{redacted by moderator}

wally
June 25, 2007, 09:33 AM
if your a good shot you can clamp some empty shotgun hulls with live primers to a 2x4 and try to pick them off with a .22

just be sure to secure the shells good so they dont go flying backwards.

I'd advise against this! When I was a kid my friend's uncle suggested we try this. Well I hit the shell, but it did not explode, instead the primer cup came flying back striking the uncle in the upper lip. Bleed like a MF and he was the only one who stayed really calm on the way to the ER.

I've never blindly accepted the advice or information from someone again.

--wally.

geekWithA.45
June 25, 2007, 09:52 AM
THR will not be used to exchange information concerning explosives.

There's many sources of such information, THR need not be one of them.

Kindly restrict your comments to non explosive reactive targets.

Thin Black Line
June 25, 2007, 09:55 AM
If there's a range that "allows" reactive explosive targets, then surely they
would allow non-reactive explosive targets such as glass bottles......

Neo-Luddite
June 25, 2007, 11:37 AM
Watch for the sales or disposal of old expired JELLO powder. Mix it up in 1 gallon milk jugs and let it set up in a fridge/freezer. Colorful and (mostly) bio-degradable.



Later on in the year, pumkins are great.

kellyj00
June 25, 2007, 11:55 AM
try to use old jugs full of water...sometimes with a little latex paint (or miracle grow) so you can see the water level. I've been known to use a sharpie and mark 1 through 10 with a little line on the bottles, with 10 being closest to the bottom. They can also be hung from trees if they're milk jugs. Kinda like an easter egg hunt for teenagers with .22's.

Balloons?

I've seen Tom Knapp shoot aspirin with his .22 before...

Nothing really compares to blowing something up I suppose, but I'm pretty sure that if my targets start costing more than the ammo to shoot them then something has gone seriously wrong.

Guntalk
June 25, 2007, 12:02 PM
I had an interesting conversation with a couple of bomb techs at Gunsite last month.

Trust me when I say that after hearing their stories, I don't ever want to mess around with any home-brewed explosives.

"Yep, I saved some money by making my own. Sure wish I had my hands back, though."

fatelk
June 25, 2007, 12:23 PM
I remember it was on the news a year or two ago that a local guy near where I lived was seriously injured and his house badly damaged, trying to make homemade "exploding targets".

I was curious what exploding targets were and found out about Tannerite, then I found out that it was made just a couple of miles down the road from where I lived at the time! Several guys at work and I split a case and I have to say it was impressive! Not being a chemist, I would not even remotely be interested in trying to make my own, out of concern for both safety and legality.

wolf_from_wv
June 25, 2007, 02:33 PM
Cans of cheap pop...

GigaBuist
June 25, 2007, 05:24 PM
Kindly restrict your comments to non explosive reactive targets.

On that note:

- Charcoal
- Crackers
- Broken (or missed) clays
- Ice

Bonus: They're all biodegradable.

Nickotym
June 25, 2007, 05:26 PM
Anyone that wants the recipe for tannerite can do a google for it. GWA45 may be surprised where one of the top links for it is.

Justin
June 25, 2007, 05:40 PM
In light of what he who works in technology and totes a big-bore pistol said, I'm going to go ahead and close this one.

Please feel free to start a new thread dealing with non-explosive reactive targets.

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