External Mag Fed Shotguns


June 25, 2007, 08:11 PM
Howdy folks. Aside from the Saiga, how many other magazine fed shotguns are out there for sale on the civilian market?

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June 26, 2007, 11:37 PM
I was thinking there were none...

June 27, 2007, 01:43 AM
theres a few

theres an USAS clone built on i believe an AR lower for like 4K

[Shameless plug for Don at Omega Weapon Systems]
theres the OMEGA SPS12
gas operated, mag fed, shot gun
$245.00 new in box ffl required
this is a chinese made shotgun,
heres a photo from some airsoft site
[/shameless plug]

Edit: http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/3000/3019.htm

Jorg Nysgerrig
June 27, 2007, 02:11 AM
Magazine fed shotguns? I can think of lots of those...

Remington 870, 1100, 11-87, Model 10, Model 11...
Browning Auto-5, BPS...
Winchester Model 1887, 1897, 1200, 1300...
A whole bunch of Benellis, Mossbergs, and Berettas as well..

Oh, you meant detachable box magazine, didn't you? ;)

June 27, 2007, 02:38 AM
The Chinese Weidong SAS-12 is a pretty good one. :neener:

If you've never seen one, an example can be seen here (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=73689676).

June 28, 2007, 12:45 AM
seems the SAS-12 is the same gun as the Omega SPS-12

call Don and get yours today!

June 28, 2007, 12:59 AM
There were several bolt-action shotguns that used detachable box magazines, although I doubt that is what you were thinking about.

Until a couple of years ago you could buy a kit from Knoxx to outfit a Mossberg 500 with a detachable mag, either an (IIRC) six round box or ten round rotary. They discontinued it due to QC problems, however.

June 28, 2007, 01:10 AM
Hot dang, it is discontinued.

Black Majik
June 28, 2007, 02:14 AM
Valtro PM5

June 29, 2007, 12:37 PM
The Spas-15... but it's not available for civilian sale in the US.

June 29, 2007, 06:49 PM
There was the Mag-7 a while back too. Odd little duck it was...

June 29, 2007, 09:44 PM
I saw some kind of Saiga .410 at the gun show last week. Very useful for CQB with deadly squirrels holed up in the actic I imagine. You don't have to worry about the shot going through the walls or roof...

June 29, 2007, 11:26 PM

July 3, 2007, 01:39 AM
Max Popenker's website lists almost all the ones I know of. They are:

Heckler & Koch CAWS (never went into commercial production)

Valtro PM-5

Franchi SPAS-15



Atchisson AA-12, and the USAS-12 which is based on it

XM-26LSS (which appears to be able to use Saiga magazines)

Mossberg, who has made a variety of bolt action shotguns over the years, made one that uses a detachable box magazine, the model 695 (there may be other Mossberg bolt-action shotguns that used detachable box magazines, the 695 is just the only one I know of offhand). Mossberg doesn't currently list the 695 on their website, so I guess the 695 is out of production.

Another shotgun that sort of qualifies is the Jackhammer (like the CAWS, it never went into commercial production).

It is essentially a giant gas operated revolver. It is reloaded by removing its cylinder and replacing it with a loaded one (or of course just reloading the empty cylinder), sort of like the Korth revolver. While not a magazine, on the Jackhammer the cylinder does act as a detachable ammunition feeding device.

Detachable box magazine designs have never been, and problably never will be, as popular in shotguns as they are in rifles and handguns. Shotgun ammunition is so much bulkier than pistol and rifle ammunition that the key advantage of box magazines, that they usually provide a significant increase in ammunition capacity, is not realized unless the magazine is very large (like the AA-12's 20 round drum), which ends up making the shotgun bulkier than most users care for. Though the other advanatage of detachable box magazines, a faster reloading time, still remains.

July 3, 2007, 01:50 AM
There was a kit on gunaccessories.com about a year ago that I saw. Found it while searching for 'shotgun drum magazine'.
It was a drum that held 10 shots I believe, the kit was about 300$USD, I can't remember what it all came with.
I do remember that you could buy the pieces seperatley and there was a magazine tube adapter for the mag, and the adapter was specific to particular models of gun. Remington, mossberg and one other I believe was supported.
It was pretty neat, they had a box magazine and a drum magazine that you could use, however i can't find it anymore on the site...

Heres a pic that i found recently on another forum regarding myspace chicks, point being the gun she is holding is defenitly equipped with the kit i'm referring to.

July 3, 2007, 10:48 AM
That is the Knoxx conversion. As said before it was discontinued, evidently due to QC issues.

July 3, 2007, 11:20 AM
The Valtro PM5 is high quality, right there with Benelli . It is a super beefy design that looks beefier than an 870 and is smooth as one since there are no magazine tube lifter parts. I have one, almost, as John Jardine is putting it together; it has a heavier than stock Vang choked barrel with rifle ghost ring tritium sights and a black painted wooden 'conventional' stock shortened to 12.5" with a Limbsaver. The magazines are $150 each!:what: but they too are well made.

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