[BobCav]

Due to the attitides I have seen by the moderators on THR, as shown in the following two threads, I no longer wish to be a member of this forum. Please deactivate my user account, delete it, ban me, whatever. Makes no difference in my life.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=255478

And in this thread, it seems the mods would rather close a thread that discuss what they could be doing better. There is nothing High Road here... it's just a catchy name. Have a great day.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=284903

My response than couldn't be posted before it was closed.

Larry Ashcraft said
So, BobCav, you're saying the success of a forum is measured by the level of your participation.

I'll just censor anything else I have to say on THAT comment.

I never said that at all, and it amazes me how you could twist that out of my statement. I used the fact that I post more elsewhere compared to here to justify the very next sentence which is the whole POINT of the entire statement:

I merely said that things could be IMHO better, more organized, more efficient and more friendly. But just like big business and big government all we hear is "nothing is wrong".

[Correia]

Easy enough. Just quit posting.

Deleting your prior posts leaves holes in existing threads. We can ban you from posting anymore, but that really is kind of irrelevant if you aren't coming here anyway.

Sorry we couldn't help you on the prior comments, but with 15,000 members, we get lots of commentary on how we should run stuff, except most of the advice is conflicting.

[Sistema1927]

I, for one, appreciate the hard work of the moderators here. They keep this place from becoming like the cesspool that many unmoderated forums become. Thanks guys for your hard work.

To the OP, I am sorry that you didn't participate long enough to appreciate what a special place this is.

[yfngn]

Ok, I have a question for anyone here who cares to answer, moderator or just someone who happens to know more about managing their account details than I do. How exactly do I delete my own account? Is there a link to do so in the edit account information page when one first logs in? Or do the moderators have to do it for me? If the mods have to do it for me, do I have to PM a request to them to do so, or will one of them taking note of this post be enough? I mean, I already PM'd the forum owner and the admin., to no effect, but what the heck, both of them might be busy and haven't had a chance to delete my account yet. Maybe I'd have more luck with a moderator?

Thanks in advance for any information anyone can provide to help me.

[BullfrogKen]

Why would you need to delete your account?

[yfngn]

Why? Because I don't want to be a member here anymore.

[BullfrogKen]

Well, then that's easy. Just don't post here anymore.

There are no membership dues to refund. We don't delete posts when a member decides he doesn't want to be here anymore. I'm not sure what it is you want the Staff to do.

[igpoobah]

That's easy, just go away.

No, that is not a sarcastic comment.

[Scorpiusdeus]

I think these questions about how to delete an account go to the basic intelligence of the people asking the question.

[HeedJSU]

*sigh* Anyone else here tired of these threads?

Justin

[kellyj00]

could we just delete this thread?

[MarshallDodge]

That's it??? You don't like how a couple posts went and instead of trying to be a positive influence on this board, you throw up your hands and stomp out like a child!?!

I think that there are times we don't always take the High Road but that's why we need moderators to pull us back in line. If you disagree with the Moderator then fire them a PM and work it out. You obviously came here to make an influence on this board and the direction you were headed was not the direction this board is going. Buh-Bye :)

[carpenter]

could we just delete this thread?


It's an opus. A swan song. A "final word" as he's heading out the door.

I don't like some of the mods, here, either. Yes, they can be rude and obstreperous. Two or three are especially badge heavy.

But some are top notch. You take the mods in the gunsmithing, reloading, tech advice sections, for example. Those guys are top notch. They're polite and, most of all, extremely intelligent.

But I belong to a bunch of forums. And I don't like all their mods, either. But I continue to post. Why? Because it's free. And because it's educational.

And whenever you receive something that's free, you just take the good with the bad.

But that's just me.

[pax]

carpenter ~

I'd be willing to bet $5 that the ones you refer to as "especially badge heavy" are working in sub-forums near the top of the board. There's a reason for that: THR is one of the busiest firearms fora on the 'net, and those sub-forums at the top of the board make up a huge proportion of THR's traffic. THR has nearly 3.5 million posts ...

When you realize just how heavy the traffic is here, you just kinda have to be amazed that the place runs as well as it does -- especially considering that there are no ads, no subscriptions, no revenue stream at all, and the staff is all volunteer work from people who actually do have lives outside the computer box.

So those "badge heavy" people you mention? They're not. They're simply doing the job that needs to be done to prevent such a busy place from spinning out of control. Your favored haunts, the quieter sub-fora, don't have the level of disruptive activity happening in them that the busier areas get -- but I assure you, the moderators in those quiet channels are every bit as willing to do what needs to be done, including stern language and bans, as the ones you decry as "badge heavy." The only difference is that the moderators in the less-active areas of the board just don't have to do that stuff as often as the ones keeping an eye over the busier areas.

pax

[igpoobah]

I'm relatively new here but....I've been to forums with mods that are bloated with themselves and enjoy their power trip. This is not one of them. Strict on the guidelines, sure. We agreed to them, they enforce them.

Everything I have seen thus far has been fairly reasonable as far as I can tell. Nothing outrageous at any rate...

Being a (small) forum admin myself, I'm not going to second guess what leadership here does. That's their call. If ever I disagree with it to the point that I can't deal, I will just leave, which I believe is the best thing for the OP to do.

[glockman19]

How about a Poll therad for favorite Mod? :)

Let the members speak. Mod's with few or no votes for favorite might change behavior. :rolleyes: Feedback is always good if it leads to positive change. I have my favorites. :D

[pax]

glockman ~

It isn't a moderator's job to be popular. Rather the opposite, in fact.

pax

[R.H. Lee]

Some people aren't happy unless they can find an excuse to feel offended.

[kellyj00]

R.H. Lee - I find your comment out of line and utterly offensive.

Ahh, I feel so much better now. ;)

[BullfrogKen]

glockman19 said: How about a Poll therad for favorite Mod?

Wouldn't matter. We answer to Oleg, and to each other. We police ourselves and rebuke ourselves, in places you don't see and isn't visible to the membership.

I suspect a "Favorite Moderator" poll thread wouldn't last very long. We'll allow criticism threads to last as long as it stays positive, productive, and appropriate. A "favorites" thread isn't any of those.


How about we Moderators start a poll about our favorite members? Or we begin threads whining about how stupid, rude, or abrasive membership is, and how the membership on biggunsRkewl.com are better than ours? But we won't do it; its unprofessional.

Its been interesting for me to experience how becoming a Moderator changes how folks interact with me personally. I get different PM's now. I have the same advice and messages in my "off-duty" posts as I did when I was a member. But I notice I'm received differently. Some folks think it now equates to some level of expertise, and ask questions along those lines. Others disagree, and I'll get abrasive and confrontational PM's. Its the same ol' me; but the title makes us targets. Sometimes Moderators are targets for those seeking advice and help. Other times targets for complaints and those seeking adversarial interaction. And I'm quite sure doing what the job sometimes requires hurts my business. That's just the way it is, I guess.

It all comes with the job we volunteered to do.


glockman19 said: Let the members speak. Mod's with few or no votes for favorite might change behavior.
When it comes down to it, the job doesn't require us to win popularity contests. So, no, that won't cause us to change our behavior. We counsel each other, and listen to each other's advice.

[carpenter]

No, pax, I meant "badge heavy." It's the difference between a cop who is friendly or the cop who enjoys bullying people. And I'm sure in their own minds, they're both just doing their jobs.

Just my opinion and present company excluded.

[Dravur]

and I think you should hold your breath until they delete your account....

ya know, to make it more childish,

[McCall911]

There have been times when I've gotten bored with some of the silly discussions going on and didn't post for a while. Rarely have I been offended but it has happened. I try to understand where the other person is coming from, and it's usually just good-natured kidding. But in a few instances it's worse...

The Mods don't have that option, even though I'm sure there are days (and maybe every day) that they could throw up their hands and say to heck with it. They do a great job IMO.

So if you don't like some of the goings on, don't post and stay away. Just that simple. You may change your mind later on about your membership.

[Larry Ashcraft]

OK, I swore I wasn't going to post in this thread, but some things need to be said.

First of all, moderators are members first, mods second. Oleg didn't go out and hire some jack-booted thugs to moderate his new gun forum, he tried to pick from the membership the ones who he thought would do the best job. I enjoy reading and posting on gun forums, otherwise I wouldn't be here.

When I responded to whatshisname above, I did it as a member. Since my name's in bold, I guess he took it as moderator harassment. Whatever. That reinforces Ken's post, the members do tend to react to mods differently.
It isn't a moderator's job to be popular.
That's a fact. And a thick skin comes in handy too.
present company excluded.
Probably not any more. ;)

[jt1]

Wouldn't matter. We answer to Oleg, and to each other. We police ourselves and rebuke ourselves, in places you don't see and isn't visible to the membership.

We want to see, We want to see!!! Maybe a "The best of the moderators rebuke's" thread?

[Mal H]

Nah, you wouldn't want to see them, jt1. They're really kind of boring since we're so nice to each other. ;)

Seriously, they are boring, and it's too bad a good many of the arguments that take place in the main forums (*cough* L&P) can't be as boring by the use of polite debate. Trust me, we have our serious differences at times. Heck one debate is going on as we speak, the topic of which doesn't matter, but we would be laughed off the board by the more vitriolic members of which we have no short supply here on THR.

[orionengnr]

This is the best-run internet forum I have ever been a part of. Bar none.

I am a member of multiple firearms boards, several different brand or model-specific car and truck boards, several brand-specific motorcycle boards, and several boat forums.

This is a mature, adult discussion, with no high school BS trash talk. Some of us like it that way. If you don't, there are plenty of others out there.

Please don't defecate in my back yard and then complain that it smells like an outhouse.... :)

[Roadwild17]

Speaking of mods, I noticed a little change in the batting line-up.

How do you go about deciding who are mods and who aren't anymore?

Not saying I want to be one AT ALL, just seeing is someone will entertain my brain farts.

Anyway, good job.

[pax]

How do you go about deciding who are mods and who aren't anymore?


Oleg drafts people to be moderators.

He usually runs the names of people he's thinking of drafting past the other moderators first, but not always.

To answer your not-quite question (assuming you're looking at my title), I got burned out & quit. Second time I've tried to do it in the past couple years, but this time I really do mean it and am going to stick to it.

pax

[tyme]

How about a Poll therad for favorite Mod?

Let the members speak. Mod's with few or no votes for favorite might change behavior. Feedback is always good if it leads to positive change. I have my favorites.
Comments like this make me recall the protest scene in Freehold after Earth dumps some degenerate "refugees" on Graine. They're all clamoring for suffrage, without bothering to understand how the Freehold works.

Back when I was just out of highschool, from about 18-21, I was big on fair government, free speech, representation, self-determination, etc. More recently, I've begun to regard those things as distractions that enable terrible ideologies on both sides.

The government provides elections for representation, and maintains the appearance of propriety in its institutions. Underneath, aside from the wonders of party-induced gridlock, there's not much to be happy about with modern democratic governments. The only reason they're not despotic is that they have to change gradually from their libertarian roots, and that change takes time. On the other side, rebels like to claim legitimacy for their violence by pointing out that their targets are directly or indirectly interfering with their right to self-determination. Furthermore, non-violent citizens are discouraged from effecting any real change as long as they still have their precious "rights" to suffrage and free speech. The whole thing is a mess. Semi-free speech might be helping... marginally. Representation is not helping. The appearance of propriety in government is not helping.

Members here have no right to self-determination, no right to free speech, no right to representation or to petition the moderators for a redress of grievances. If any of us don't like it here, there's Glocktalk or Arfcom, or we can engage disliked moderators in polite, private discussion.

I don't see how providing members on this board with some of those listed privileges would make the situation better in any way.

[Roadwild17]

Pax

It was you and Zack Smith not being mods that caught my eye along with the blues guy being a mod. I havent been around for about 2 weeks.

P.S. Thanks for your website, its come in handy a few times.

[Larry Ashcraft]

Zak Smith is still a moderator, and TheBluesMan has been forever.

Click on "Forum Leaders" close to the bottom of the main page.

[Zundfolge]

"Please delete my user account." = childish tantrum.


If you really want to leave a forum and you want nothing else to do with it, then:
edit your profile
delete all your private information
delete any attachments you've attached
change your email address to an address that doesn't exist
change your password to a string of random characters you can easily forget
close your web browser
reopen it and dump all your cookies and cache.
get on with your life

But asking the mods to delete your user account (and/or posting a big ole "good buy you schmucks" post in General) is just begging for attention from people you claim to want nothing more to do with.



Too much drama :rolleyes:

[Geno]

If someone doesn't like the mods, there is a simple solution...seek life elsewhere. Being a mod is about keeping order, not establishing friendships.

[Correia]

Which is ironic, since I'm probably considered one of the jerkiest mods, yet most of my real life friends are people I met on THR or TFL. :)

[enfield]

Buh-bye! Watch out for that doorknob!!

[hso]

We want to see, We want to see!!! Maybe a "The best of the moderators rebuke's" thread?

Life is full of little disappointments. ;)

[Art Eatman]

We generally don't PM with,

"Dear Sir:

You cur!"

Politeness at all times: "When you arrive home this evening, I rather hope your mother comes from beneath the porch and bites you."

Art

[NCLivingBrit]

Please delete my user account.

Quickly, this man needs a Waaaahmbulance, before this progresses to an outright hissy fit!

Considering my overall level of grumpy and blunt, I thought I'd have come a cropper of anything close to an over-zealous mod, but so far not a thing.....

[McCall911]

Quote:
Please delete my user account.

Quickly, this man needs a Waaaahmbulance, before this progresses to an outright hissy fit!

Considering my overall level of grumpy and blunt, I thought I'd have come a cropper of anything close to an over-zealous mod, but so far not a thing.....

:D
Waaaahmbulance.

I haven't seen anything that strikes me as objectionable from you, NCLivingBrit, but then I come from a long line of grumpy, blunt people.

One thing I can't deal with: The paranoids! :rolleyes:
Give me grumpy and blunt any day!

So...I guess I'm saying:

I feel the paranoids are out to get me!

:uhoh:
:scrutiny:


:D

[NCLivingBrit]

One thing I can't deal with: The paranoids!

It was Bush! Bush attacked Pearl Harbour in 1926 (yes, I know that isn't the right year) using a Rovian Time Machine powered by the batteries from Cheney's mothership! And the Clinton's provided the floor show!

Woah..... channeling crazy people there for a second. Anyway, I'm just paranoid -enough-, which seems like a wise move in the urban wonderland of North Carolina :)

So...I guess I'm saying:

I feel the paranoids are out to get me!

We are. While you read this, my cabal is tapping your phone, putting lipstick on your dirty linens (in case you're married) and instructing the Global Zionist Vegan Nazi Conspiracy to overfly your house with our invisible spy UFOs.

Oh and I stole Waaaahmbulance from some gaming forum I was reading, but it's too cool -not- to steal!

[Mal H]

Well, alrighty then! :)

Seriously, nothing is being accomplished in this thread at this point. The OP hasn't visited THR since his post last month. Any additional "advice", though somewhat amusing, is being wasted. Let's concentrate on matters of greater importance like 9mm vs. 45ACP!