Thoughts on a Henry H001


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marksman13
June 29, 2007, 06:59 PM
I know, I know, use the search function, but this little rifle doesn't get talked about much, and I also wanted THRs' opinions about the trade I a making to get this rifle. I've decided that I want a lever action 22. I have been on a real rimfire kick recently. As a matter of fact, four of the five guns I have bought recently have been rimfires. Guess it's because I am a broke college student and that is all I can afford to shoot.

I've looked at the competition, the Marlin 39A, the Browning BLR 22, and the Winchester 94/22, and all of them are out of my price/trading range. I had my local dealer tell me today that he can get me an even trade on a brand new Henry H001 for an SKS that I never shoot. Am I crazy for making the trade. I know the guy quite well, and I know he won't make much more on the SKS then he would the Henry.

I know I am taking a slight loss because he quoted me a $225 price tag on the Henry and I bought the SKS from him for $230. I never shoot the SKS though and haven't warmed up to it. Would anybody else make this trade? How does the Henry stack up to it's competitors in the accuracy department? Thanks in advance guys.

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ArmedBear
June 29, 2007, 07:04 PM
Henry is a neat little gun, and I say that as an ardent fan of my 39A.

The H001 has some plastic parts, which can be replaced with steel at a nominal cost if you call Henry and ask. They're the barrel band and the front sight hood, AFAIK. Gun shoots fine as-is, though.

Accuracy is reportedly good. Affordability of ammo and flexibility of shooting are big selling points (most indoor ranges allow .22LR, and you can even plink with CB rounds if you want it to be quiet and not go too far past the target). There's usually something legal to hunt with a .22LR. You can teach a kid with the thing. Rounds are the same price per box as centerfire rifle rounds, except you get 500 instead of 20 for the price.:p

I also have an SKS that's been sitting around, along with other milsurps. In reality, I don't shoot any of them.

There's a reason .22LR is the most popular caliber in the world.:)

The SKS might go up in value way into the future. The Henry probably won't. But the Henry will provide hours of enjoyment in the meantime.

ZeSpectre
June 29, 2007, 07:10 PM
My thoughts are here "Happy Birthday Henry Rifle Roller Coaster (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=279999)"

But to sum it up, I really like it now :)

Atticus_1354
June 29, 2007, 07:13 PM
I love my Henry and I shoot it far more than my 10/22. I would make the trade if I was you.

ArmedBear
June 29, 2007, 07:33 PM
Another big plus: cleaning.

Lever .22's don't require much.

FDC
June 29, 2007, 07:33 PM
Timely topic. I've been looking at buying a good--decent price lever action .22LR for a couple of weeks now. It's one of my main targets for tommorrows trip to the Shreveport gun show. Academy has the H001 for $218 (cheaper than my local Walmart), and the Golden Boy for $348. Both are VERY tempting. I'm going to check the gun show, Bass Pro Shops, and then Gander Mountain before I pick one up. I might lean towards the Golden Boy just for a couple extra store bought features.

I think I would trade, unless that SKS is in absolutely pristine condition.

ArmedBear
June 29, 2007, 07:39 PM
I looked at the Golden Boy and the Marlin 39A. Bought the Marlin. It's an all-steel takedown, and I like its fit and balance better. YMMV, but I'd compare before spending the money. I'm glad I did. Maybe you'll prefer the Golden Boy. I wouldn't mind having one of each, if I come into some cash.:)

I like the Henry Octagon. All the features of the Golden Boy, but not the shiny receiver to keep clean, for a good deal less money. Heavier than the H001, a plus in my book.

All told, though, the H001 gives more fun per dollar than just about any gun made, and they do last.

marksman13
June 29, 2007, 07:43 PM
The SKS is not in very good shape. I bought it well used. It just doesn't feel the niche I thought it would. I had the dealer order my Henry today.

Eightball
June 29, 2007, 07:47 PM
The H001 has plastic internals, notably the feed lever thingbob that moves the rounds from the tube into the path of the bolt; for a high-wear part, that makes me raise my eyebrows a bit. If you absolutely, positively cannot afford the 39A, then I guess the H001 is the "right one for you".....but having shot the 39A, let me tell you--that is the one .22 I would trade nearabouts any longarm I have to get one of, especially my current .22 (which I love).

YMMV.

marksman13
June 29, 2007, 08:11 PM
Armedbear, how much would it cost to change out the plastic parts for metal ones, do those metal parts include the "feed lever thingbob" as eightball so eloquently put it? :)

ArmedBear
June 29, 2007, 10:05 PM
I don't know. I've heard 10 bucks a part, and they're not listed.

If I were you, I'd wait and call Henry and ask. Consider the Octagon model, between the H001 and Golden Boy in price, but the Golden Boy's equal in quality and features. It's just not shiny.

As I said, I have a Marlin Golden 39A. I feel the same way about it as Eightball does.

It's all machined steel. That's one reason I spent $475 on it, when I could have gotten a .22 lever gun for half the money. The takedown receiver is another. Checkered nice walnut another. Overall fit and feel another. I already had a couple of .22's. I wanted one I'd LOVE.:) At this point, I'd gladly part with both of the other .22s (well, the one I've had since I was 16 has sentimental value), and a few other things including the SKS, if that was the only way to keep my Golden 39A.

(I'm 41; I've accumulated things over time.:) I didn't just buy all that stuff. And I had to save for the 39.)

TAANSTAFL but I still think the Henry is a lot of fun for the cash, and well worth buying. A .22 that's not a takedown doesn't HAVE to have a steel receiver. Just make sure you do understand what you're getting and what you're not.

The Henry is the old Ithaca design. The old German-made Ithacas can still sell for what the Henry does, even used and 30 years old. They have a solid reputation, earned over a long time.:) Henry now builds them in the USA, and they build them very well.

raginrednek
June 30, 2007, 12:08 AM
i bought the henry and dumped my 10-22 and a winc autoloader. the henry is far more fun, better trigger and way more accuate. i can hit pill bottles and sticks of chalk(the fat ones like used on porches and concrete by children) at 30-35 yards with open sights.
i bought it for my daughter and i have to get me one now.

ArmedBear
June 30, 2007, 12:41 AM
Henry makes a .22WMR. Marlin doesn't.

If I finally do talk myself into a .22 Magnum, it'll be a Henry Octagon.

BTW since I got a good .22 levergun, I have shot no other .22 rifles. No itch to do so.:)

marksman13
June 30, 2007, 02:16 AM
Well, I already have a 22 that I love and that is my CZ. It's the first 22 I ever fell in love with and it's the cheap 513 model. It's just so accurate, even with the heavy trigger. The Henry is mostly going to be a fun gun and something that will maybe get my wife more into the shooting world. I've wanted a lever action 22 since I was a kid, and like I said, the SKS hasn't found favor with me (I am an accuracy freak).

That said, will I be dissapointed with the Henry as far as accuracy is concerned. I plan on keeping it open sighted, but if I add a scope what kind of groups can I expect at 50 yards? Thanks again for all the replies, folks.

tegemu
June 30, 2007, 09:40 AM
I've got one and love it, it's one of the most accurate, fun guns I've ever had. I'm seriously considering another one. Check out www.rimfirecentral.com for a ton of info on Henry's and many other rimfire's.

Fingolfin
June 30, 2007, 10:56 AM
Is the wood on these Henry rifles the real deal? I've seen some with grain patterns that looked like they could be on $5,000 shotguns. Henry's website seems to indicate it's real high grade walnut, just wondering if that's true.

Dave Dembinski
June 30, 2007, 11:09 AM
Is the wood on these Henry rifles the real deal? I've seen some with grain patterns that looked like they could be on $5,000 shotguns. Henry's website seems to indicate it's real high grade walnut, just wondering if that's true.

Sure seems heavy enough to be real walnut.

aka108
June 30, 2007, 12:12 PM
Henry has very smooth action and is pretty accurate. Only thing I dislike are some of the plastic parts and the the receiver housing which is made from something like pot metal and painted or brass plated. The Marlin is all steel and while the action is not the smoothest in the world, I think it will last for generations.

ZeSpectre
June 30, 2007, 12:38 PM
Is the wood on these Henry rifles the real deal? I've seen some with grain patterns that looked like they could be on $5,000 shotguns. Henry's website seems to indicate it's real high grade walnut, just wondering if that's true.

Yup, that's one of the weird things about the H001
Nice barrel - Good
plastic sights - not so good
Smooth action - Good
some plastic parts - not so good
cheap receiver - not so good
absolutely beautiful wood stock and grip - really nice

What a mix of contrasts. But functionally mine is great!

marksman13
June 30, 2007, 05:08 PM
btt

FDC
June 30, 2007, 08:31 PM
I was at the Shreveport, LA gun show today. I saw a couple of H001s and Golden Boys there. The H001 looks like a nice little rifle with good wood. The Golden Boy looks/feels like a work of art, albeit heavy. If you want a basic 22 lever action, that H001 will certainly do for you. I have some extra cash so I'm going for a Golden Boy or H001T(Octagon barrel)--I love the feel of those heavier .22LR rifles.
I'd still make the trade, or better yet, just buy it outright. It's inexpensive enough to do it without much problem. With an SKS and a lever 22, you've got plenty of options.

marksman13
July 1, 2007, 01:22 AM
Nah, not chance I'm gonna keep both. I am adding an M1A to the fold in December and paying for a new truck. Also looking for a house, so the SKS must go if the Henry is going to be added. Never liked the SKS much anyway.

FDC
July 1, 2007, 01:37 AM
Never liked the SKS much anyway.

You just solved the problem--make the trade.:)

marksman13
July 1, 2007, 04:55 AM
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. I bought the SKS as a truck gun, and now I never carry it. As long as this Henry with a scope will put 10 rounds into a quarter at 25 yards I'll be happy. If it will do that at 50 yards...even better. I don't plan on scoping it, but I want to know that if I do it will shoot well enough to merrit a scope.

aaronrkelly
July 1, 2007, 06:30 AM
I love my little Henry. The action is smooth as butter and the trigger is just as smooth.

The gun is silly accurate with this sub-standard 3-7x32 scope I put on it, everybody I hand it to loves shooting it.

Recently swapped guns with a buddy for a few rounds, his was a Browning lever .22lr - dont remember the model. It was older as it was his dads gun.

I know the gun is a high quality piece, no doubt there. Both he and I agreed that his Browning were lacking in the action category to the Henry.....its just wasnt there.

Perhaps it was a problem with this particular piece but I wasnt impressed, even the trigger wasnt as nice.

Glockman17366
July 1, 2007, 09:03 AM
I've got a Henry...nice gun! As a plinker and squirrel/little critter shooter, I've got no problem with the plastic parts (well, maybe someday, but other things have higher priorities).

$225 sounds kind of salty for the H001 though. I paid under $200 NIB.

ctdair
July 1, 2007, 09:58 AM
The H001 is the most fun gun that I own and the only gun I shot that has made me smile more was a BAR that was fun. I replaced the sights and barrel band , wish they came standard but price points need to be met somehow. Going out shooting with the H001 today as well as My Henry Big Boy .44 :)

Rex B
July 1, 2007, 10:03 AM
Around here (DFW) $218 would be a good price.
Cheapest I've seen is $199 on sale, and those lasted about 5 minutes.
$225 seems to be the price point, but I have not checked Academy.

I have two guns on my "buy" list, and they are both .22s

akolleth
July 1, 2007, 11:34 AM
IMO I would say make the trade.

You have already said you don't like the SKS all that much and it is a relatively unused firearm.

Value wise you are definately coming out ahead. A well used Yugo SKS like you say yours is runs around $125-150 right now. Condition is the key on value for those SKS. Unissued ones are running $175-200.

The Henry is almost across the boards around $200 new for one. Good deal there.

The only negative i can see is that the SKS will probably go up in value as time goes on, whereas the Henry probably will not, or not nearly as fast as the sks.

joplinsks
July 1, 2007, 02:04 PM
Trade a well used SKS for a new Henry H001? I'd do that trade in a heartbeat:what: Unless it's one of the rarer SKS varieties or you have some money in mods, you're coming out way ahead on that deal. You can always buy another SKS via gunshows for cheap if you start missing it.

Amazing how many used Henry H001's you see at gunshows in the $300 range :uhoh:

ArmedBear
July 1, 2007, 11:39 PM
As a plinker and squirrel/little critter shooter, I've got no problem with the plastic parts

Good point!

It's not like you're going to be in Alaska on a $20,000 guided chipmunk hunt, or you're going to use it as grizz defense, only to have the rifle break.:D You can fix it if it ever breaks; no need to pour money into it up front.

The H001 provides some of the best fun for the buck of any gun around.

Before springing for the Golden Boy, compare it to the 39A and decide which one you like best (also Browning BL-22, which is too light for my taste but may be great for yours).

But as a trade for an SKS, the H001 is a great choice! Much cheaper to shoot, too.

MilsurpShooter
July 2, 2007, 02:25 PM
Got mine from Wal-Mart for $120 about 4 years ago. Great action, smoothest thing in the world. Easy to take apart and clean (4 screws) reliable, never had a misfire, never had a failure to extract and it's dead on accurate. It does have it's drawbacks, painted metal cover on the reciever that's prone to scratches, but I overlook all that for the amount of fun this little thing has given me. Literally, freestanding, 100 yards hitting bowling pins. I've blown out most of the black on targets at the 50 yard range. It's a good little gun, great fun too. I've taken it down to basic components, put it back together with no issues.

marksman13
July 3, 2007, 02:27 AM
I picked it up this afternoon. I have to say this little rifle is fun to shoot! Don't really know what kind of accuracy it is capable of, because it was so much fun to shoot off hand at Coke cans. Only put 45 rounds through it, but I love it already. It is so light, slim and handy that I can't wait for squirrel season!:D

ZeSpectre
July 3, 2007, 08:14 AM
Congrats on the new Henry. I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun and use out of it.

BayouTeche77
July 3, 2007, 04:05 PM
Congrats!

I'm at roughly 15,000 rounds through mine. I LOVE THIS GUN!!! You will, too.

tubeshooter
July 3, 2007, 08:49 PM
Glad to see you went through with it, after reading the whole thread just now. I agree with others, for a beater SKS it is a good trade.


I'm sure you will enjoy it much more, since the SKS just wasn't your thing.

marksman13
July 4, 2007, 09:59 AM
When I first picked up that Henry, I wasn't sure I would like. I am in love now.

M110
July 4, 2007, 11:18 AM
You'll love Henry's customer service if you ever need to use it.

I'm going to be buried with my bigboy:D Wife thinks I'm kidding...

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