[phantomak47]

I did some wheeling and dealing, please vote and tell me how I did. I bought them from someone who was reducing a parents collection.


What I got.


1. Camp Marlin 45 80% or maybe higher (I tend to value my guns a little lower than what they should be)

2. Remington Woodsmaster 30'06 80%


Both guns for $400.00

[Alphazulu6]

Good buy. Can't find a decent rifle for under $300 here in Colorado :(

[Hoppy590]

you did good. those camp carbines are getting price, and harder to get.

[Sniper4Life]

Two guns for $400 !!! Could I have the address where you bought them? I wanna go see if he has any more....

The only two guns that you can get here in va for $400 or less are milsurps and .22s

[Harry Paget Flashman]

Good deal but you could have gotten 4 or 5 Mosin Nagants.

[10-Ring]

Any pics? Sounds like you got a nice deal

[Rokman]

It seems like you did good on that purchase.

[mustanger98]

I haven't kept up with Marlin Camp .45's, but that Woodsmaster .30-06... around my part of the country, they bring $350+ on the used racks.

[MinnMooney]

Ya, let's see some pics of those two. Sounds like you got a very sweet deal.
You just have to be in the right place at the right time, eh?

[Kaylee]

400 for both?

Darn good buy! Provided you wanted them to start with, I mean. :)

[full metal]

Those marlin 45 camp rifle's are going for around $600 to $700 buck's.

[phantomak47]

Will take some pics when the wife comes back with the camera!

[gezzer]

Marlin camp 45 = 575-700
Rem 742 sorry = 100-125 as most are single shot automatics.

[mustanger98]

Marlin camp 45 = 575-700
Rem 742 sorry = 100-125 as most are single shot automatics.

Notice that in the OP the Rem. 742 was stated to be part of a $400 puchase. So with the Marlin Camp 45 valued at $575-700, the de-valuation of the 742 is balanced out. So if the OP wants to get rid of the single-shot automatic, he can send it to me because I'll tweak it and find a load it'll run with.:cool:

[phantomak47]

I have got a question about the woodsmaster 742, I know there are issues with gun firing.


If the gun is loaded , will it still fire the first round, even if say it doesnt run in semi like it should? Will the first round still fire?

[eliphalet]

I have a 742 in 30-06, it works great. I bought for the scope that was on it. Only ran 20 or so through it but it shoots and functions fine. If any one is interested in one I would sell it for $300 in NY minute as all I wanted was the glass off it.

I would say you got an excellent buy.

[alucard0822]

GOOD JOB, those camp rifles are pretty scarce anymore, I kick myself every time I think of the camp 9 bullpup w 30rd hicap S&W mags I traded away years ago.

[ilbob]

I'd say you did real well getting the camp carbine for $400. The other rifle is just gravy.

[mustanger98]

I have got a question about the woodsmaster 742, I know there are issues with gun firing.

If the gun is loaded , will it still fire the first round, even if say it doesnt run in semi like it should? Will the first round still fire?

The issue isn't with the gun firing. The first round will fire. The problems I've heard about centered around the extractor ripping through the cartridge's rim- it didn't extract so it couldn't be ejected. The gas system has to be timed and the timing is in the powder's burn rate. Inappropriate powder generating too high a port pressure and a gas operated rifle won't function well. Get the right powder/bullet combination and I'd say it's as good as any other gas operated hunting rifle.

[TCB in TN]

The only extraction issues that I have ever had with any of the semi Remmings has been if they were dirty. I have bought a couple that would tear the cartridge w/o extracting, but a thorough cleaning fixed that w/o fail. I recently bought a 7400 in 30-06 and it exhibited the same problems, cleaned it up right (it was really gunked up) and runs through rounds like a champ!

Sounds like you got a great deal, I gave $350 for my latest used 7400.

[phantomak47]

I didnt know much about this rifle when I bought it but it seemed to be in decent condition and would make a good back up to my old savage 99 (which I had bought from the same guy a few years ago) plus it was 30'06. I did a bunch of posts about this particular gun( if you want to search from them, please do and comment if you would like) since I didnt know much about it. From what I read and learned heres what I figure out. Please add or comment .

1. The gun needs to be cleaned, but cleaning might be best for a gunsmith. I do have a manual from Remington, but it looks a little over my head.


2. Rails are very soft and can wear easily.

3. Best performance from 150 grain bullets.

4. Doesnt like the cold, but I am in Texas no problem.


The gun collection was owned by an old timer who I used to stop by his garage and talk to when I was in high school quite frequently about Old cars and stuff like that (he sold me a nice savage 99 for only $300 when I got into hunting and gave me a high standard supermatic olympic pistol ) . He passed away quite a few years ago and his family wanted to get rid of his collection. So I would feel bad selling the 742, so I would like to try to get it running if possible. I sort of feel like I am taking care of his collection even though hes not around anymore as none of his family wants his firearms.

[phantomak47]

Well, I had to transfer in these guns and my only contact to do so was in the police academy for the last 5 months, so I finally got them in today.

How did I do for $400 for both?

[Dr.Rob]

Sounds to me like you did just fine, clean them and shoot them and let us know how it goes.

Those Remington semi autos--some love them, some hate them. That looks in really good shape. Keep it clean and it should work fine.

[brasskeeper]

Sounds like a great deal. Those camp carbines are selling alot higher than $400 around here and I havent seen one in 45acp in long while.

I would sell the woodsmaster.

[skinewmexico]

I don't like either of those, and I would have jumped on it.

[mustanger98]

IMO, I wouldn't sell either one. The Camp .45 would be a nice companion arm to a 1911A1. The 742 Woodsmaster is a beautiful hunting rifle which will do the job if it's understood and loaded/maintained according to its own needs.

[phantomak47]

Mustanger98,


What would you do to get it running right? What load/brand would be ideal? I ordered a manual from Remington and I have to say, the 742 is not an easy gun to disassemble/ reassemble. Any other info or tips?

[mustanger98]

First off, we haven't established that your particular rifle has a problem. Only that too many 742's seem to jam frequently. Shoot it and find out.

First thing I'd do is figure what powder's burn rate, plus which charge weight in that powder, works best in the 742's gas system. I never heard of the 742 being a piston system, so I figure you're dealing with direct gas impingement. This means the 742 has a problem much like the early M-16's. If the burn rate is too slow, the port pressure will be too high causing the gas to race down the tube and blast the bolt back before the case's obturation cycle has completed. This will cause the extractor to rip through the still-sticky case's rim and that's what causes a jam in the cases I've seen. Even if it is a piston system, the burn rate has to be timed. I'd also recommend keeping the chamber as clean as possible.

I can't recommend a powder/load because I haven't had a chance to experiment with this rifle. However, I would go with IMR4895 as a starting point and see how it functions. I also can't recommend a factory loaded .30-06 round because I only shoot either USGI surplus or a variety of handloads and that's in a Garand or '03A3. I do however recall that when my Daddy had his 742, when I was a kid, he shot 180gr CoreLokts and his rifle had the jamming problem I described. I'd go with a lighter load... probably 150gr. You can try factory-loaded 150gr CoreLokts (Remington's green box) because they're good ammo, but be aware they may be loaded a bit hot for that gas system. Outside of that, it's a handloader's game.

[jimmyraythomason]

A lot of people around here bought Remington Model 742s in the early '70s. Some still have their 742s and would not consider letting them go but just as many are jammatics and are relegated to closet duty as no one wants to buy them. Cleanliness is NOT the problem nor is the magazine. The general consensus is ,if your 742 doesn't jam, great ,if it does it can't be fixed(unless you want to replace the bolt and the barrel).