I really like the Replacement Killers DVD.


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Lightsped
June 27, 2003, 10:02 AM
The Replacement Killers DVD was like the 3rd DVD I bought. Anyways, I really like this movie. LOTS of shooting.

Are there any other good "Hong Kong" style movies as good as The Replacement Killers?

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Croyance
June 27, 2003, 10:40 AM
Look up other movies with Chow Yun Fat.

WhoKnowsWho
June 27, 2003, 11:30 AM
Replacement Killers was barely above okay, Chow Yun Fat's older movies were much better. Try Hard Boiled and The Killer. A Better Tommorow one and two was pretty good I thought, but the first two are the best.

bogie
June 27, 2003, 11:30 AM
Yeah, and watch 'em in Chinese...

Look for Hard Boiled and The Killer.

One of 'em (and I never can remember which...) has an Assault Thompson Center Contender in it.

Then there's A Better Tomorrow, and A Better Tomorrow II.

10-Ring
June 27, 2003, 11:38 AM
Yeah, but Chow Yun Fat, guns & Mira Sorvino is a tough combo to beat ;)

Lightsped
June 27, 2003, 12:02 PM
Are any of the above mentioned movies done in English? I don't like to have to read dialog for the whole movie, and it kind of sucks when a movie is originally done in another language with English speaking voices dubed over.

Cliff
June 27, 2003, 12:02 PM
Yeah, but Chow Yun Fat, guns & Mira Sorvino is a tough combo to beat

Mira Sorvino has that sensitive bad girl,I will kick your butt thing going on thats a turn on.;) And a body also.

Justin
June 27, 2003, 12:18 PM
The Killer and Hard Boiled have already been mentioned. They are easily two of the best HK action movies ever. As well as A Better Tomorrow Pt. 1 and 2.

John Woo's Bullet In the Head is excellent as well.

These are all Chinese-language films. They were made for an HK audience and then only later exported. As for subtitles vs. dubbing, go subtitles. If you get the DVD usually you have a choice, so if you want to watch it with badly dubbed dialog you can. Once you get used to subtitles you don't even notice them, you just read them automatically.

Lightsped
June 27, 2003, 12:28 PM
I was really hoping to find another movie like Replacement Killers that is not subtitled or dubbed. Something done for a U.S. audience.....

Chris Rhines
June 27, 2003, 12:32 PM
Why? The bad dubbing is half the fun.

- Chris

Justin
June 27, 2003, 12:45 PM
There's other HK-esque action fare out there, done for a US audience, but you can't beat the original.

I think it has something to do with the stuntmen. HK stuntmen are all insane.

And they can't afford lawyers.

Which means they do stuff that you'll never see in a US action flick. (Like take a magazine full of blanks at contact distances, jump out of two story windows, dump a bike while unloading a Mac 10 and stuff like that.)

The HK stuff doesn't have the same 'slick' look as a Hollywood production, instead it's really frenetic, almost like they just made the action scenes up on the spot.

DMK
June 27, 2003, 02:16 PM
Aside from the shooting with guns in both hands, Replacement Killers is a pretty good flick. I bought that one too.

I like Romeo Must Die also. Good action in that one.

Lightsped
June 27, 2003, 03:00 PM
Romeo Must Die. I have seen that DVD at the store. Don't think I have seen the movie. What is the movie about? More importantly, how is the gunplay in the movie? What types of guns?

Skunkabilly
June 27, 2003, 03:21 PM
I think it has something to do with the stuntmen. HK stuntmen are all insane. And they can't afford lawyers.

Not really, everyone is insane.

When you walk around Wanchai or somewhere, you see guys driving down the alleys knocking over (always) the crates of fruits, guys chasing each other scampering up the bamboo scaffolding, guys getting into fights at restaurants, etc. It's a normal thing there :D

BTW everyone there knows martial arts! Esp the waitors.

9mmepiphany
June 27, 2003, 03:29 PM
romeo must die is mainlya kung-fu movie ... althrough there is some very impressive full auto scenes.

you have to bear in mind that HK movies are "escapist" in nature. you need to suspend you belief in reality... think hidden tiger, crouching dragon

Justin
June 27, 2003, 06:04 PM
Romeo Must Die has some pretty decent action and Kung-Fu wire work. Not a lot of gunplay, but enough to be interesting. (The supershorty M16's in the briefcases were tres cool.)

As for story, it's kinda sorta based on Romeo And Juliet.

Sorta.

Skunkabilly
June 27, 2003, 06:06 PM
That Jet Li guy doesn't talk much

I bet he can disassemble and put together my Beretta real quick tho...I should have him show me how to disassemble the slide so I can clean the gun poo under the extractor.

:D

LTrain
June 27, 2003, 06:28 PM
"The Killer" is on of my favorites!!!

Chow Yun-Fat worked a lot with John Woo, back in hong kong. I have to say, all of John Woo's HK movies are way better than his American movies. I think he tries too much for the American audience. Hence, Mission Impossible 2. Jet Li's HK movies are really great, too. One of my favorites is "The Defender".

Like previous posters mentioned, ALWAYS watch foreign films in their original language, subtitled. The dubbing REALLY takes away from the experience.

Larry

Lightsped
June 27, 2003, 09:30 PM
How does "The Corruptor" compare to The Replacement Killers?

cool45auto
June 27, 2003, 11:12 PM
Love the DVD, too. I've been trying to find Chow Yun Fat's older movies on DVD or VHS but haven't had any luck yet. I haven't tried the internet, though, I keep hoping I'll find one or two at a flea market or something.:rolleyes:

Justin
June 27, 2003, 11:16 PM
How does "The Corruptor" compare to The Replacement Killers? It doesn't. Blech.:barf:

Mastrogiacomo
June 27, 2003, 11:55 PM
Forget about the American crap. Try www.yesasia.com for the Hong Kong DVDs; the dubbed films always get the translation wrong too. YesAsia offers DVDs cheaper than anything you find in the stores and they stand by their products so any defects -- they'll deal with it without it costing you another dime -- even to send it back. I've done business with them for years and have had nothing but excellent service. What's good in Hong Kong action flicks?

With Chow: A Better Tomorrow I, II, III
Full Contact
Hard Boiled
The Killer
Peace Hotel

Other great films to check out:

Time and Tide (by director Tsui Hark) -- can be had on Amazon in their stores for less. It was a sleeper hit.
Anything with actor Simon Yam -- my favorite is Killer's Romance.
Moonlight Express (with Leslie Cheung) had a great shoot out scene

You should find a lot of great deals at YesAsia such as buy three DVDs, they'll only cost you $10 each...one thing to pay attention to is that it says "All regional code" -- some of them only play to Asia (region III) so check. If in doubt -- ask. Most of the titles are available to be played here but always look. Hope this helps.

blades67
June 28, 2003, 12:20 AM
Jet Li's "The One" is an excellent movie, with trick special effects and lots of automatic weapons.:cool:

Skunkabilly
June 28, 2003, 04:25 AM
The Hong Kong comedies are hilarious too. In general, less morals stuffed into Chinese movies.

Most of the gun handling sucks, but guns aren't really in their culture so no one's really around to teach anyone proper this and that.

Tom B
June 28, 2003, 08:19 AM
I have watched the movie several times but only because I have the hots for Mira! :p

Snowdog
June 28, 2003, 10:52 AM
Mira Sorvino has that sensitive bad girl,I will kick your butt thing going on thats a turn on. And a body also.

And a brain as well... she's fluent in Chinese and holds an MBA from some fancy college.



I have watched the movie several times but only because I have the hots for Mira!

Me too, and she's using a Kahr K9 to clean the streets! Whoo hooo!

Mastrogiacomo
June 28, 2003, 12:10 PM
That "fancy" school was Harvard University in Cambridge, MA. Mira actually thought about dropping out but at the urging of her dad, actor Paul Sorvino, she completed school. He wanted her to have something to fall back on if she couldn't make it in acting. If I recall, she spend a semester or two in Beijing so between that and her program, she speaks the language fluently (French too). This was great for Chow because at the time he made The Replacement Killers, he couldn't speak English. Notice how little English he spoke and how awkward it sounded? He did better in The Corrupter because he had more command on the language by that time. He was grateful to Mira because she spoke Mandarin the whole time they filmed the movie. She actually taught the language for a while but claims it's no longer that strong. She lives now in France now where she says she's stunned by how the French can take the art of being rude "to a whole new level." :D

MikeD29
June 28, 2003, 01:10 PM
The Killer and Hardboiled are great movies, do not let the dubbing or sub titles keep you from seeing them. Harboiled is just a great action flick, arguably one of the best ever. The opening scene and hospital are friggin great.

The other Woo films are good as well. I even like Face Off and Hard Target.

The Woo Chinese oroginals are must sees.

Mastrogiacomo
June 28, 2003, 03:31 PM
Get the subtitled. I've had the bad luck to view the dubbed versions -- the story is way off and God knows how they translate it because it's not even accurate. If you must view just one for now, pick up Tsui Hark's Time and Tide -- it's like John Woo meets Wong Kar Wai. A definate favorite of mine....

Cosmoline
June 28, 2003, 04:49 PM
My only problem were the gun sound effects. They did too much "ptchuu, ptchuu" rather than the actual sounds of gunfire.

Mastrogiacomo
June 28, 2003, 06:27 PM
That's why it's called a movie....:D

Captain Scarlet
June 28, 2003, 06:59 PM
but I think he can also speak Mandarin? I prefer the dubbed DVD's because
Hong Kong language is hard to understand, they talk too fast!

I hate reading subtitles, the dubbed English in HARD BOILED and a Better
Tommorow was excellent, makes the movie much easier to understand.:confused:

Mastrogiacomo
June 28, 2003, 09:03 PM
They think we speak fast too...;) If you don't understand a language, it always sounds that way. Regarding Chow's language -- all people in Southern China speak Cantonese but learn Mandarin in school as it's the required national language. Obviously since he understands Mandarin -- that's how he and Mira communicated the entire time they filmed "The Relacement Killers."

In the north and rest of China -- they speak Mandarin, with some exceptions being regions that speak their area dialect that is unique in and of itself. In Taiwan for example, the native language is Taiwanese but most speak Mandarin. China, like India, is a country of several hundred different languages -- you could literally get lost trying to sort it all out. This is why the Hong Kong movies have subtitles in Chinese because the writing is the same regardless of what they speak at home.

Skunkabilly
June 29, 2003, 03:27 AM
Brief briefing on the people and ranguage of Hong Kong:

People from Canton speak Cantonese, where we ride up the Pearl river delta in our sampan paddlewheelers, a-gamblin to Chinese honky-tonk music and eating catfish.

We are the equivalent of the deep south of China--our language is considered a dirty dialect of Chinese. Chinese jive or ebonics. Cantonese is recognized as a language in the US because a lot of early Chinese migrants were Cantonese. Hong Kong is the deep water harbor island on the coast of Guangdong/Canton that the British seized as part of a drug deal gone bad.

The equivalent of 'trailer trash' in Hong Kong live in boats because they can't afford a flat (apartment). We have typhoons (Cantonese for big wind, what the Brit fighters were named after) which seek and destroy these boats, like the way tornaders seek out trailers. People in Hong Kong also do funny thing like queue up for lifts instead of line up for elevators, and write cheques, and change flat tyres :D And drive on the long side of the load (something we picked up from the Brits).

The more politically correct but regionally incorrect way of saying 'Canton' is 'Guangzhou' which is how them Chinese Yankees say it. To us, it's 'Gongdong', kinda like 'N'owlins' is to folks from Loozieanna.

In short, we're a bunch of hillbilly ricepicking Chinese redneck merchants and fisherpersons. Reehaw!!

PS 'reehaw' is technically incorrect for me, there is no 'r' in Cantonese, and no 'L' in Japanese. We eat flied lice and visit to Amelica, but the Japanese go to Disneyrand.

As for the gun-related info, I think their SDU (SWAT) has a lot in common with the British SAS. Cops carry .38s, not sure if I ever saw autos, but a few blue-clad ninjas with MP5s at the airport. Hong Kong kids like guns because of Japanese cartoons and American movies, but have little or no exposure to real ones, and like many American younguns, know everything because of Counter-Strike and whatnot. Airsofts are everywhere, I think I picked up a Glock 17 and an MP5SD6 some time ago.

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