Ruger 10/22 question


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Noxx
July 7, 2007, 01:40 AM
As I mentioned in an earlier thread, I recently purchased a 10/22 for the wife. Everything I've heard about the ruger indicated a certain quality and durability so I felt comfortable buying it.

Today I tore it down for it's first good cleaning, and wow, was I disappointed.

The bolt has already worn off most of the "finish" (if thats what we can call this lousy black paint) from the top of the receiver and was no doubt the cause of some of my stovepipe issues while sighting in.

In addition, while cleaning off the outside of the receiver I noticed a bit of crud that seemed stuck on, so I gave it a little help with my thumbnail and promptly scraped a good chunk of the finish off. :what:

The machining fit and finish of the bolt and the receiver leaves a lot to be desired as well.

So, my question is, did I get the oddball from the factory, or are they all POS and we're supposed to finish them off at the consumer end?

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brentn
July 7, 2007, 01:44 AM
Thats the way it is buddy, thats why there is a break in period for things like this.

The internal paint isn't there to impress anyone, so if its gone who cares, but out of the factory thats how it comes. Yes you will have to clean it off for the break in period.
What I did with mine is sand it off with 600 grit paper before I started shooting, I always prep my guns before break in, make sure that friction points are nice and smooth.
The bolt fits loosely, if it was perfectly tight you'd have jams and FTE's etc happening after only 50 rounds. .22 ammo is usually dirty and when the bolt is loose like that it really helps with reliability.

Point being, this is normal, and you'll see in the years to come that this gun will last you a long long time.

Noxx
July 7, 2007, 01:54 AM
Duly noted, I'll break out the Dremel.

rangerruck
July 7, 2007, 04:35 AM
sit in front of a tv. slop in some lube, then hand Ca-chunk that handle about a million times. wouldn' hurt to take out the recoil guide rod after that, get you some 0000 steel wool , and polish that baby super smooth. If it still won't eject, go over to http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/
, and go to the top of the first page , for the advertisers, and go to Christies, or Weaponkraft, and get a s.s. aftermarket parts upgrade, with at least a new extractor/spring setup. then , when you actually take yours out, make sure you do it in a clear plastic bag, that is huge enough for both of your hands to be in there at the same time. Because, you will cause that spring/plunger setup to
go SPROING!!!, and it will then happen in a clear plastic bag, so you can see where the parts flew.

Noxx
July 8, 2007, 01:29 AM
Thanks for the responses and links folks.

I broke the rifle down to nothin yesterday, got my roto-zip and some brass cups and polished the s*** out of the inside of the receiver on all the wearing surfaces, cleaned and polished the guide rod, etc. FTR, that little bolt is a bastard to get back in, using a soft-jaw vise helped immensely.

I'll take 'er back out monday and see if there's any improvement. Using Federal HV atm, I may bring a couple different types of ammo to see if they make a difference as well.

rantingredneck
July 8, 2007, 01:34 AM
Federal Automatch runs great in mine. Mine doesn't like the federal copperwashed HP's bulk pack stuff at all. Feedjams frequently.

I traded for mine so it was used and well broken in. My biggest PITA with it is keeping the recoilspring and guide rod in place when I'm putting the bolt assembly back in the receiver. That little bugger always wants to jump back out on the table for some reason.

aka108
July 8, 2007, 12:16 PM
10/22 gets better when all the Ruger components are changed out with some of the quality after market parts that are available. But then it is no longer Ruger. I own one and changed out the stock and barrel. This improved the accuracy. Just not willing to put any more money in it.

koja48
July 8, 2007, 01:13 PM
And put a buffer kit/pin in it . . . saves years of wear & tear on the bolt, plus tones-down the annoying "clack" when it cycles. Should be able to find one of those inexpensive critters on RimfireCentral, too . . . drive the old steel pin out as you drive the replacement pin in.

proud2deviate
July 8, 2007, 01:53 PM
FTR, that little bolt is a bastard to get back in, using a soft-jaw vise helped immensely.

Mine was like this, too. It really helps to file down the witness lines inside the receiver; you know, these are the little line of excess material that get squeezed out of the two halves of the mold when they do a casting. You'll be able to see where to do it, it's the little shelf that your breech face hangs up on when you're putting the bolt back in. Two strokes from a decent bastard file will have your bolt dropping in under it's own weight. It makes taking it out a lot easier, too.

Noxx
July 8, 2007, 02:11 PM
And put a buffer kit/pin in it . . . saves years of wear & tear on the bolt, plus tones-down the annoying "clack" when it cycles. Should be able to find one of those inexpensive critters on RimfireCentral, too . . . drive the old steel pin out as you drive the replacement pin in.

Yeah I found several threads over at RFC on em, ordered one a couple of nights ago. If nothing else it should stay in place better than the factory bolt stop pin, which falls out if you look at it.

Noxx
July 15, 2007, 06:26 PM
Well, I'm still less than happy with this thing, it looks as if I'm down to trying brands of ammo to get decent function.

I completely stripped the receiver of all paint, and polished the aluminum to a high shine on all surfaces. Cleaned, lubed, prayed naked in front of a giant tiki.... you get the idea.

Still fails to eject , and stovepipes on occasion. Not nearly as much as it was, but way more often than I'd like.

Anyone recommend a favorite ammo for the beast?

elrod
July 15, 2007, 06:37 PM
No one should be subjected to that type of product failure! These things are nothing but a POS! (I'll give you $100, shipped, tops):D

Noxx
July 15, 2007, 06:44 PM
No one should be subjected to that type of product failure! These things are nothing but a POS! (I'll give you $100, shipped, tops)

Pfft, I bought it from Turners, so you know I already took it in the shorts once. Give a guy a break.

Andrewsky
July 15, 2007, 09:01 PM
When you're testing for reliability, use only the factory magazine. Aftermarket magazines suck, according to my experience.

rangerruck
July 15, 2007, 09:21 PM
go over to RFC, and get a parts kit upgrade. At a minimum, get a s.s. takedown screw, torque wrench, extractor/spring/plunger, extended mag release, plus throw in a new hammer. Should do the trick.

Noxx
July 15, 2007, 10:24 PM
I'll try an aftermarket extractor.

As far as the mag, I live in CA so the factory 10rd is what I'm using regardless. Can't have me that uber-assault hicap .22

Bezoar
July 15, 2007, 10:40 PM
get some good federal ammo, maybe some cci. It would help if you said what model/caliber your using.

All i know is that certain times using winchester or remington subsonic they put in too little powder that barely creates enough pressure to work the slide. MIGHT be an issue with the magazine follower sticking/next cartrdige sticking.
As in if the next cartridge isnt in the top waiting to come out, the spent one will bounce onto that spot and try to get reloading at a bad angle creating a jam. Thats how mine was till i soaked the magazine in remington eco friendly bore cleaner.

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