Eating Unborn Game


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trueblue1776
July 7, 2007, 10:57 PM
This has never happened to me before and by the odds of it I probably should have seen this by now. I Killed an 80 pound pig (clean), was full of young. It was too heavy to carry the carcass and the young as it was a couple mile walk back. So I left the young.

Does anybody have a good way to cook unborn pigs? These were probably at least four or five pounds and there was about eight of them. It was a shame to leave that much meat on the ground. They looked fine to eat, I can't think of any reason not to, just never had an opportunity. Anybody eat these?

Thanks
Hank

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Il Duca
July 7, 2007, 11:17 PM
I can't say as I would want to eat unborn pigs. I just wouldn't feel right. I would leave them for the Coyotes and other hogs and stuff.

trueblue1776
July 7, 2007, 11:20 PM
I see your point, but 40 pounds of fresh meat in the bush is making me feel pretty guilty. Regardless of the names us humans call the shape, meat is meat especially when you have a grinder.

R.W.Dale
July 7, 2007, 11:23 PM
I would have left the nasty old sow for the yotes and taken the "fetuses" to the grill:D

Besides you've probably already eaten them, if you've ever ate bologna, hot dogs or Vienna sausages

CSA 357
July 7, 2007, 11:26 PM
I bet they would be good and tender, cooked on the grill with some tonys on them, i have had the chance to shoot realy small pigs in the wild but never have but the ones like you took are some of the best eating i have ever had! all i can say is next time take a heavy duty trash bag and packem out and try it:D csa

RyanM
July 8, 2007, 12:17 AM
I guess you'd want to look up a recipe for suckling pig, and cook 'em the same way.

marksman13
July 8, 2007, 12:20 AM
Uuuuummmmmmmm........no. Not for me anyway. Have at it.:D

Liberty1776
July 8, 2007, 12:37 AM
my family raised hogs - we grilled many 2-4 wk old piglets. even at that age they just sort of melt - no muscle tone. i'd think a fetus would be damn near liquid... real, real soft meat is my guess.

koja48
July 8, 2007, 12:41 AM
Hmmm . . . would be tender, If it seems "barbaric," remember we routinely eat eggs . . . now we can have them with petite strips of bacon, with quail eggs, for those light eaters . . .

Logos
July 8, 2007, 12:42 AM
After all, we eat eggs, don't we?

;)

I see Koja beat me to it.

:)

Cosmoline
July 8, 2007, 12:45 AM
Yeah, but there's something excessively *chinese* about eating a pig fetus. They're for biology class, not the table. And BTW, I've opened them up in biology class and there's nothing I'd care to consume in one. A suckling pig is different because it's been fed on incredibly rich milk. A fetus hasn't really been fed on anything. I don't eat anything before it's had a chance to eat something.

And as far as eggs, they're not the same. They're UNFERTILIZED. You're not really eating a chick, you're eating what the chick would have developed on. The bird analogy would be like eating a FERTILIZED chicken egg with the chick inside. And that would be way too *French*

koja48
July 8, 2007, 12:52 AM
Yeah, you're right Cos; I'll stick with baloney . . . that way I have no clue what I'm eating . . .

eliphalet
July 8, 2007, 02:08 AM
fertilized eggs like on the farm or ranch are the best, for taste and nutrition, orange yokes not that pale yellow.

I donna know as I have never hunted pigs but somehow it just doesn't feel OK killing a pregnant animal. I am not making any judgments here and if I knew more about hunting hogs I might just change my view but it the way I feel now it just kinda leaves a uneasy feeling. Are they that much of a problem in some areas?
Knew a old government trapper that would kill a den of coyote pups and that never did feel right either.

kungfuhippie
July 8, 2007, 02:20 AM
Seeing as how ferrel pigs are pests, killing the pregnant sow just means less pests. Kind of like squashing the black widow and her egg sack. Eating them? I've eaten worse: donkey (salty), sloath (grisle), dog (too greasy but somewhat like pork), possum(meh), frog (delicious). Not my preference, but I tell you what. When a person that make $30 a month for his whole family cooks up a pot of pig fetuses and offers me one out of kindness I'll eat the damn thing with a smile. If it's just from hunting-well as a Chilean friend once told me, "some parts of the animal are for feeding your dogs" Worst thing I've ever eaten-cow foot soup-tastes like a live cow smells.

bensdad
July 8, 2007, 02:31 AM
I love to hunt and eat dead critters and all that. I just always associate hunting with fall... when animals are pretty much done raising their young. Eating fetal pigs just sounds sorta, I don't know, grusome.

PotatoJudge
July 8, 2007, 03:08 AM
Game species are about never pregnant during hunting season so far as I know but pigs have no season, breed year round, and so are hunted while pregnant. Thing is, you probably won't know they're pregnant until they've been shot. Kinda seems weird, but there's no practical reason I can think of not to eat the piglets too.

Anyway trueblue, good to hear when other hunters have a hard time leaving meat on the ground. Figure we took it's life, least we can do is make the most of it. This attitude will get us as far as we can go with hunting fence-sitters.

Caimlas
July 8, 2007, 03:25 AM
Had you taken them, they would've been the tastiest, most tender pork you've ever had. It (and the placenta/afterbirth) would've also been jam-packed with nutrients (though the placenta/afterbirth would've tasted very much like liver).

Throughout most native societies, eating the womb/fetus of an animal was considered a delicacy, and one often reserved for the pregnant and nursing mothers, and the elderly (due to its nutritional content and how easy it is to eat, respectively).

I shot a doe last year just out of spots, and let me tell you: you could probably have cut the meat with your lips if it'd been marinated at all. We just cooked it and ate it, and every one of the cuts could easily be cut with a fork.

The irony here is that while you might feel compunction about eating pig fetuses, a great number of people in this twisted society of our's has no problem with human abortion - and does so fairly regularly.


Besides, it's primarily about protection from your own government, not protection from common criminals.
Exactly. That is what so many politicians don't understand.

For the most part, I agree. But there are exceptions, such as when there is a need: one such need is for vitamin and mineral rich meat; another such need (as the case with feral hogs) is the thinning and maintenance of the heard, so as to prevent them from their destructive tendencies.

Cosmoline
July 8, 2007, 04:48 AM
You bring up eating afterbirth AND raise the abortion debate in one post? You've crossed multiple lines there bucko.

koja48
July 8, 2007, 08:45 AM
Back on topic . . . Eph, you just nailed the "uncomfortable" part . . . I most definitely have the same aversion. I'd feel terrible if I harvested a critter, eviscerated it, & discovered it was pregnant. The "den of pups" hit close to home, too . . . a rancher back home used to do the same to fox dens & it always bothered me.

However, in light of the "multiple line crossing" a couple posts up, I'm done on this subject . . . Art's Gramma needs to hack this thread . . .

RubenZ
July 8, 2007, 11:08 AM
I wouldn't do it just because it would seem gross and I just couldn't see myself gutting fetuses. Now if you did it for me ;) and invited me to a BBQ then I'd probably eat it.


I'm not the same boy I was years ago who could shoot, kill and eat anything I saw out at the ranch. As it is, I feel bad shooting dove and deer these days. I don't know why but I'm finding as I get older, I feel bad now when I kill things.

H&Hhunter
July 8, 2007, 12:53 PM
Just put those little suckers on the grill gutted but other than that whole. leave the head the feet and their little tails intact. Serve them with tiny little apples in their mouths.
Make sure and save this feast for the next time you have squeamish disneyfied city folk over for dinner.;)

marksman13
July 8, 2007, 12:58 PM
H&H, I just took you off my list of members I would like to eat dinner with. :D:neener:

Troutman
July 8, 2007, 01:35 PM
Things that some cultures eat and don’t eat are all but rationalizing, at times.
As another poster put it, bologna, hot-dogs. Those other parts of an animal that’s incorporated in other meat products, to be used for consumption.
There are other reasons some cultures don’t eat certain animals, animal parts.
This includes animals that are impregnated with their offspring.
Caviar (fish eggs) are a food source that is considered as a Hors d’œuvre. But who cares about fish. Their not a species with feelings.
Other cultures eat animals; animal parts that other cultures think are repulsive.
In some parts of the world, some cultures don’t have the luxury to go to a super-market to purchase a side of beef. Even if they did eat beef.
The end-user (how I’ll put it), takes for granted, or does not understand or want to understand the whole process of how that food source gets to that supermarket. Whether it’s a 50 year old cow (that’s ready to kick the bucket) or calves (few days old). Or their un-born offspring.
PETA uses a technique (an appeal) on people’s emotions. Whether this works or doesn’t work, I don’t know. It does not work on me. It seems even PETA and their faithful followers, which look up to their GOD (PETA). PETA has their set of cultural tribunals. Even to some cultures (American) domesticated animals’.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itswGWddk2A&mode=related&search=


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlQlJrgZwOk



PETA does not KILL animals, animals that are used for consumption, anyway!
NO! True, they just KILL….excuse me….I have to be political correct here…. PUT TO SLEEP (how poetic, Oh! Contraire! ), domesticated animals.

These things are anything but new, as far as how cultures consume animals, those other animal parts, and their off-spring (unborn).
There are cultures that consume dogs, rat, and monkey. But this is their culture.
Like the American culture, is known for their hamburgers, hot dogs.
It’s not only a cultural thing, but a mindset.

So….whatever is your thing….munge!

Geno
July 8, 2007, 02:10 PM
Rather the equivalent of pork caviar isn't it?!

:neener:

When we caught salmon that had eggs, we rolled them in flour and fried them...tasted good! I can't see any real difference.

By the way, this is a good thread!

Car Knocker
July 8, 2007, 02:52 PM
The bird analogy would be like eating a FERTILIZED chicken egg with the chick inside.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balut

koja48
July 8, 2007, 03:03 PM
Being an old Montana Boy . . . now Rocky Mountain oysters . . . why, there's some prime vittles (and they were right . . . you can take the boy out of Montana, but you just can't take Montana out of the boy).

kungfuhippie
July 8, 2007, 04:18 PM
Speaking of cow parts. There is a delicious soup in Ecuador and Peru called Caldo de Tronquito or roughly "little trunk soup" It's made from bulls. I'll let you decide what part of a bull would be it's little trunk. The thought of it made me sick-but when someone fed it to me without disclosing what type of beef it was made from-it was delicious.

koja48
July 8, 2007, 04:33 PM
"Never eat a hot dog with a hole thru the center."

koja48

Aries-
July 8, 2007, 04:47 PM
im not sure you would get any meat off a piglet. especialy an unborn one. they would have no muscle mass, and id say 35 of the 40lbs would have been uneatable garbage bone, internal organs and such.

trueblue1776
July 8, 2007, 05:03 PM
Aries- Would the young bone be soft enough to grind for sausage?

Caimlas
July 8, 2007, 07:13 PM
You bring up eating afterbirth AND raise the abortion debate in one post? You've crossed multiple lines there bucko.

Sorry mate. :P Which lines did I cross, particularly? Something in the rules - I can't see anything I violated there, unless it's talking about non-gun related things? They're both (at least) tangential to the topic at hand.

And I wasn't talking about eating human afterbirth (ewwwww!), though indigenous tribes do/used to do that, too. I was talking about the animal's afterbirth... that was contextual, I swear!

pax
July 8, 2007, 07:31 PM
They're UNFERTILIZED.

City boy, eh? :D

My grandmother used to make a delicious chicken soup with tiny little egg yolks in it. It was made using an actively laying hen that had been slaughtered. The tiny egg yolks came from inside the mother hen and were truly the most delicious part of that soup.

Got a recipe around here somewhere for it, but I've never made it, myself. We decided not to keep our own chickens since several of our friends are commercial chicken farmers and we wanted them to be able to visit us without fear of transferring poultry diseases from one property to the other.

Dunno what to tell the OP about the pig fetuses. I think I'd've had to try it -- worst case scenario being it'd be inedible and got wasted after cooking rather than before cooking. But then, I grew up eating frogs' legs and rattlesnake and monkey brains and other weird stuff, and don't freak too easily.

pax

Caimlas
July 8, 2007, 07:35 PM
Aries- Would the young bone be soft enough to grind for sausage?

Probably. Might be a little chewy like softer cartilage or very soft chicken bones though.

Aries-
July 9, 2007, 12:39 AM
id say they might be, but i dont know. never hunter bore before. canadian, dont have any wild boars up here lol.

Kilgor
July 9, 2007, 01:43 AM
Too gross for me. Have at it though.

Sav .250
July 9, 2007, 11:01 AM
Seems like a legitimate question But I`ve got to think some on that.

NRA4LIFE
July 9, 2007, 02:02 PM
This is making me sick.

mbt2001
July 9, 2007, 09:43 PM
I wouldn't have a problem eating them...

I can't think there would be much to them though...

If you have pups, you could feed them to them, just dress them and run the carcas through the grinder. The bones are not very strong... I have done that with tree rats b4.

Troutman
July 10, 2007, 02:16 AM
<<This is making me sick>>
And
<<.Too gross for me. Have at it though.>>
And
<<Aries- Would the young bone be soft enough to grind for sausage?>>

What we have to do here, among ourselves (hunters) and the hunting industry, we have to become more politically correct? on how we express ourselves in this new century.

So….instead….for example:

You tell your hunting buddy…yelling to him, from across the street, lets say.

”Hey! I’m going hunting deer, Saturday! Do you want to go?”

This does not sound good to those who do not hunt.


The better way of doing it is:

“Hey! I’m going on a Quest for deer, Saturday! Do you want to go?”

Makes other people that are hearing it, think, and sounds very……conservationist.

Another example:

That next door neighbor. Who could not go with you that Saturday, with your buddy from across the street. Yells over to your house.

Hey! How did you do Saturday!


Instead of yelling.

Yea! I killed a 12 pt. buck!

Again! This does not sound good to those who do not hunt.


The better way of doing it is:

Yea! I made a 12 pt. buck perish!


Makes other people that are hearing it, think, sounds,
You can walk on water!

Now….One has to be careful saying these new kinds of statements to a male hunting buddy. IF he does go with you, he might decide to stay at Motel 66, while you make camp, and he tells you that he’ll meet up with you later. And not any time soon, either.
Female hunting buddy, can go either way. If she does stay? You’re one lucky dude!

And by all means…Do not say to the game warden, “I’m going on a Quest for deer.” And/or “I made a 12 pt. buck perish”, if that happens.
He or she will be thinking that you had a 6 pack too many!

Bob R
July 10, 2007, 02:52 AM
The bird analogy would be like eating a FERTILIZED chicken egg with the chick inside. And that would be way too *French*

Ummmmm...balut....the egg with legs! A couple of those, some cold, painted label San Miguel, a bar full of cute women......what great memories!

bob

Prince Yamato
July 10, 2007, 02:55 AM
Jeez, this thread is going to make me barf...

Doesn't the ingestion of pigs that are too young cause severe diarrhea? Come on now, haven't you folks read "All Quiet on the Western Front" ?

berettashotgun
July 10, 2007, 11:07 AM
Hopefully, you was able to get some white line possum for a side?
No problems here with eating the piglets, heck- possible the day the sow died was the day before the piglets b-day.

Rabbi
July 10, 2007, 02:16 PM
Back in the sixties, Liz Taylor and Richard Burton used to eat embroyonic lamb from New Zealand @ $225 per lb. The lambs were killed about 3 weeks before full gestation.

trueblue1776
July 10, 2007, 02:21 PM
Hopefully, you was able to get some white line possum for a side?

Dude, not everybody in Alabama is a Creole. :D

~z
July 10, 2007, 02:55 PM
Dont knock it till you tried it.
~z

Itote
July 10, 2007, 04:26 PM
I'll pass.
I think it would be similar to eating a piece of bacon somebody put in a blender. The texture's gotta be wrong.
Chris

~z
July 10, 2007, 04:59 PM
See previous.
~z

akolleth
July 10, 2007, 09:19 PM
I am sure it would be fine, but I personally don't think I could bring myself to eat an unborn fetus of any animal. Just something psychological about it would hold me back.


Remember what Samuel Jackson's character Jules stated in Pulp Fiction

"Sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf***er"

trueblue1776
July 10, 2007, 09:24 PM
Well, I see the city guys have no problem weighing in. ;)

marksman13
July 10, 2007, 10:28 PM
Not much of a city boy, and I have eaten alot of different things, but I think I've got to draw the line at unborn pork.

marksman13
July 11, 2007, 12:19 PM
akolleth, funny thing is, I could hear that loud, screeching Samuel L. Jackson voice through your post. I'm still in the floor.

kellyj00
July 11, 2007, 12:46 PM
don't think I could butcher them without feeling kind bad, but at the same time I'd feel bad to just leave good meat to rot.

If it makes you feel better, *something* will eat them if you don't... you were out to harvest a full grown hog, and there's no way of knowing it's current fertility state.

I like the meat of a good doe to a buck myself....we just run this risk.

MHBushmaster
July 18, 2007, 04:37 PM
Mmmmm, unborn pork!!! (homer simpson voice)

I've got no problems with it, heck, you could probably just field dress it out and throw it on a normal sized weber grill while the full size piggies cook in a big smoker!

I find it humorous that folks get all sqeamish about eating fetal pigs.
Also humorous is that people get all "sensitive" and "emotional" about shooting boar piglets...If I ever come across any piglets out on a hog hunt, you can bet I am going to get Manson-esque on them with my AR and shoot until I'm outta ammo or the pests find ways away from me. What should I do, "spare" the piglets after I just killed there mom or because they have not reached a "mature" age? I know other female hogs may take up the "orphaned" piglets...but that just means they can grow up and further perpetuate the infestation of their species...
Hogs, boars, pig, piglets, whatever you call them, they are not game animals, there is no season, they are not some mystical mammal of the forest. These are not deer, moose, elk, etc. They are wild pigs that tear up land, steel feed, rut up the ground, etc. They should be treated as roaches and flys. Destroy them with harsh prejudice.
If I shoot 5 or more hogs, I'm only gonna take some select cuts, buzzards and 'yotes gotta eat too!

41magsnub
July 18, 2007, 05:03 PM
I am a complete hypocrite on this. Logicallly I do not see a problem with eating the piglets. Personally I would not do it, the "icky factor" is just too high and it just seems gross to me.



That said.. I'll order veal in a restaurant.

So confused....

Kilgor
July 18, 2007, 05:26 PM
No need for that picture.

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