Most Popular 9mm?


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h2ojunkie
July 8, 2007, 05:57 PM
Does anyone happen to know (or maybe have links to data sources) on the most popular 9mm autos sold in the US. Whether it be military, police, private citizen use?

While I try to remain optimistic, I figure it never hurts to protect myself against the gun grabbers, should the laws every become so strict it's impossible to buy a handgun.

I figure if I have one of the most popular 9mm autos in the collection, at least I will be able to find parts for many years to come.

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RNB65
July 8, 2007, 06:04 PM
Glock 17 or 19 most likely.

glockman19
July 8, 2007, 06:09 PM
Glock 17 or 19 most likely.
+1

Noxx
July 8, 2007, 06:18 PM
The Glock and Beretta have done time as issued sidearms for military and police use, so they are around in pretty impressive quantities. The Sig has also been a standard issue, but not nearly to the same extent.

Nomad, 2nd
July 8, 2007, 06:21 PM
The Glock and Beretta have done time as issued sidearms for military use,

I was not aware that the Glock was US military issue.
Source please?

Noxx
July 8, 2007, 06:26 PM
That should have read "Military and police issue". However I wasn't referring strictly to the U.S. (because obviously I can't read straight and thought the OP meant "worldwide")

Should I mention that I work third shift? I'm just gonna stop typing and go to bed now, I think thats for the best.

h2ojunkie
July 8, 2007, 06:29 PM
According to the clock website, the 19 has been used by USAF pilots

Black Adder LXX
July 8, 2007, 07:01 PM
Either the Glock or Beretta.

tinygnat219
July 8, 2007, 07:02 PM
Don't forget about the Browning Hi-Power, the granddaddy of all of them, or the CZ-75.

PhillyGlocker
July 8, 2007, 08:17 PM
The Glock 19!

10-Ring
July 8, 2007, 09:26 PM
I would think either the Glock would rank very very high, if not topping that list for top 9 mm pistol in the US.

nemoaz
July 9, 2007, 12:35 AM
I was not aware that the Glock was US military issue.

The Army of the Potomac....CIA. And many military serving as instructors with the Iraqi police are issued G17s.

budder
July 9, 2007, 12:41 AM
For the US, it's probably the G17. For the world, probably the CZ 75.

abarth
July 9, 2007, 12:43 AM
Makarov and its copies, may be?

30-06 lover
July 9, 2007, 12:52 AM
Glock 17 has to reign as number one by now. Beretta is probably second. At one time it was the Luger.

skinnyguy
July 9, 2007, 12:54 AM
Ruger's P89 has been around since about 1990... still being produced... so there's a ton of them out there.... including mine...

jkomp316
July 9, 2007, 01:08 AM
You silly Glock boys.:rolleyes: The Beretta 92 is hands down more units, and larger service history. Its been in production since 1975... The Glock 19 came out in 1990... Here's a list from Wikipedia.

U.S. Military (M9)
French Military (92G)
Italian Military
Italian Police
Italian Carabinieri
South African Military (Z88 licensed copy)
Peruvian Navy (92F)
LASD (Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department)
LAPD (Los Angeles Police Department)
Algerian Police
Maryland State Police (96D)
Prince George's County Police Department (Prince George's County, Maryland)
Spanish Civil Guard

h2ojunkie
July 9, 2007, 03:05 AM
Thanks for the info everyone. I knew the glock would come back among the top, but for some reason that beretta slipped my mind.

Considering the weight and size, I think I see a glock in my future

Ala Dan
July 9, 2007, 05:30 AM
Besides the Glock's, one you folks are over looking is the very fine SIG-SAUER
P226, the the even harder to find P228. For me, my West German P228 does
it~! Perfectly balanced, early (1990) production model with a low serial #.
Deadly accurate, superior craftsmanship, and reliable as death its-self~! :uhoh:;)

Brian@ITC
July 9, 2007, 07:06 PM
+2 G19

Hoffy
July 9, 2007, 08:26 PM
abarth,
I understand your point, but it is tough to really know how many of those things were cranked out in the USSR, Bulgaria, Germany and (above all) China. Even a makarovnick such as myself would have to assume that the Beretta 92 must have the edge...particularly if you think about the long service life of the makarov.
Hoffy

nemoaz
July 9, 2007, 08:38 PM
You silly Glock boys. The Beretta 92 is hands down more units, and larger service history. French and Spanish CG? Who cares. More importanly, no new agencies have adopted the Beretta for years and years.

I do like the Beretta and it's very accurate for a stock pistol. It makes a nice service weapon, especially in 9mm. The 40 just doesn't have enough magazine capacity for such a large heavy weapon, IMO. 92/96 suck as a concealed piece.

I suspect that Glock sells 50 pistols for every Beretta. That was the question remember, the most popular 9mm auto sold in the US. The list of US LEO agencies that have adopted Glock would be thousands long.

Makarov and its copies, may be?I doubt Makarov is any on the list of most popular 9mms in the US.

Boats
July 9, 2007, 08:41 PM
It's the Beretta 92FS and the count wouldn't even be close. Consider that the largest police force in the US, NYCPD, still has fewer than 40k officers, not all of whom use the issue Glock. Widespread domestic police use sounds impressive until you realize most agencies are small.

The 92FS, aka M9, aka M9A1, is approaching 700k US Armed Forces contract pieces delivered. So, there are nearly three quarters of a million federally owned Berettas before counting the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, sold to civilians in and out of law enforcement, and not even counting those sold globally to foreign armies noted above.

No way Glock sells 50 G17/19 pistols for every 92FS/M9 sold. Nines are no longer in vogue in LEO circles.

Besides, Glock is starting to have its po-po supremacy severely tested for the first time, so it's agency track record is not growing, but shortening, for every HK, SIG, M&P sold to such agencies.

Logos
July 9, 2007, 09:09 PM
I guess it has fallen out of favor now.....but the Browning Hi-Power must have sold a zillion units in the zillion years it's been on the market.

It must rank very high in total numbers out there.

Noxx
July 9, 2007, 11:29 PM
one you folks are over looking is the very fine SIG-SAUER
P226,

I don't think anyone's really overlooking it (I own one) but while it may be the "best" it's pricing will keep it from ever being the "most popular".

pdowg881
July 9, 2007, 11:32 PM
I personally have seen more 92fs than anything and of course the M9 is a military arm so IMO that's the most popular. Every person I've gone shooting with all have a 92.

armed85
July 9, 2007, 11:45 PM
Did anyone else think that after reading the subject of this thread it would go exactly the way you thought it would go?

ha ha :D

Given your hypothetical scenario of a gun ban, and assuming possession is still legal, the guns mentioned in this thread would all be easy to find parts for.

jkomp316
July 10, 2007, 12:50 AM
The 40 just doesn't have enough magazine capacity for such a large heavy weapon, IMO. 92/96 suck as a concealed piece.

Ive heard that many times... You can get a factory 12rd magazine for the 96.

Why does'nt anyone say that about the 7/8rd mags for the 1911?

nemoaz
July 10, 2007, 08:42 AM
I've never heard of a 12 round 96 mag. Every one I have seen is 11 rounds. I have shoe box full right now.

jkomp316
July 10, 2007, 01:06 PM
Beretta's 90-two guns are the same. They sell 90-two mags in .40 that hold 12rds.

Unforgiven826
July 10, 2007, 01:27 PM
If you were to search world wide the I believe there have been more P35 Hi-Powers in the hands of military and Police.

Deer Hunter
July 10, 2007, 01:37 PM
The CZ 75 and it's copies have been in more hands worldwide than the P35.

Boats
July 10, 2007, 01:39 PM
All this worldwide talk is beside the point, the OP asked about domestically purchased 9mms.

On that count the BHP and the CZ75 need not apply for most popular 9mm in the US.

duncan
July 10, 2007, 03:50 PM
Lots of BS on this thread.

The question was:

Does anyone happen to know (or maybe have links to data sources) on the most popular 9mm autos sold in the US. Whether it be military, police, private citizen use?

Civilians: Glock 19

Go to almost any gun shop in America and the answer will be the same, the Glock.

Now whether it is the G17 or G19, I don't know. But most dealers cannot keep Glocks on their shelves. I see lots of Beretta's just sitting around. Generally the ex-military buy them since they are familiar with their manual of arms.

LEO: G17 or Glock 19 but lots of officers carry G26 as BUG unless their agency has gone 40SW then it would be a G23/27 BUG.

Just ask your gun dealers.

The key with the Glocks is they make awesome SHTF guns with only 34 parts and easy to repair most problems yourself.

Love my other guns but I don't have any problems with my Glocks.

Boats
July 10, 2007, 04:47 PM
What BS exactly is present in this thread?

There are objectively more Berettas in the armed forces, this minute than all of the 9mm Glocks ever sold or exchanged or upgraded and issued to police forces in the US.

The 92FS doesn't sell like it used to, but neither does the G17 and 19.

In polymer, most cop shops have moved on to .40S&W.

Glocker
July 10, 2007, 05:09 PM
My vote goes to Glocks, I have had a few 9mm and they all have been good shooters but the best that I have had is the Glocks.

tango3065
July 10, 2007, 05:27 PM
Well I took my Kentucky CCDWL class Saturday and out of 30 people they were 16 autos and 12 were GLOCKS!

Euclidean
July 10, 2007, 06:35 PM
I think the problem is that we have to say what we mean when we say most popular. Most popular among what group of people?

It may be true that there's many more of Gun X than Gun Y in existence, but what difference does that make to some people?

For private civilians in the US of A I'd say the Glock 19 or 17 is probably it.

Boats
July 10, 2007, 07:11 PM
It might be nitpicking, but the OP asked about domestic numbers from all sources, military and civilian.

There are plenty of anecdotes floating around in this thread, but the Beretta M9 has hard figures from the DOD. How many Glock cop weapons--IN 9MM--are possibly out there--RIGHT NOW?

In terms of totally civilian sales, I'd reckon that the Beretta 92 is at least on par with the G17/19 combo. Younger folks don't remember this so well, but the Beretta 92 has been for sale on these shores since 1975 and had three big booms of sales in the 1980s. First, the military adopted it in 1985. Second was the Lethal Weapon movies beginning in 1987. Then there was Die Hard in 1988.

In a world where there were fewer wundernines on the market and then the AWB hampering the sale of new full capacity 9mm pistols from 1994-2004, it would be foolish to underestimate just how many 92FS variants, including M9s have been purchased over the years.

They are found everywhere today in all year codes. I used to own five of them myself. I very much doubt those pistols have been melted down.

PhillyGlocker
July 10, 2007, 07:16 PM
I can vouch for large sales of the Glock 19. Everytime I've went to purchase a Glock, the 19 is the one that is most scarce. When I went to buy my 19, the girl in front of me got the last one at that particular shop on that day. So I wound up have to drive for about 40 minutes to another shop to get one.

duncan
July 10, 2007, 07:27 PM
Guys guys, all you have to do is go to your local gun shop and inquire.

They actually sell many of these guns to civilians and cops.

Again, the Beretta is a nice weapon but 9/10 police agencies that are buying duty guns are buying Glocks.

Now, one of our biggest gun dealers says that the SA XDs are matching their Glock sales. so as to civilians, maybe the HS2000 now called the XD is selling better than the Glocks?

http://blammer.com/blog/wp-content/imgcache/gallery/xd9/440-xd9-03.jpg

Just called one of Ask around - no special studies needed.

Boats
July 10, 2007, 11:46 PM
9/10 police agencies that are buying duty guns are buying Glocks.

And nine out of those ten Glock acquisitions, if not 95 out of every hundred, are no longer nine millimeter purchases, and thus off topic.

jkomp316
July 11, 2007, 01:02 AM
Currently they're probably selling more Glocks in .40 than Beretta 92s. However... historically, more Beretta 92s have been put in service than any Glock model. The Beretta 92 has had one hell of a legacy, they were the bread/butter 9mm for a good 20+yrs. The Glock might be popular, but its legacy is already fading. Everyone is making polymer pistols these days. XD sales have prob surpassed Glocks this last year.

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