Colt Derringer Set


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JShirley
June 28, 2003, 05:09 AM
In a pawn shop today, I ran across a used boxed set of Colt .22 Short derringers. The proprietor claimed that Colt had made them in the 60's or 70's. Anyone familiar with these? What price range should they be?

Thanks,

John

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Sylvilagus Aquaticus
June 28, 2003, 05:19 AM
Cased set of 2 on a red velveteen bedding? Greenish barrels with gold plated frames, wood grips, .22 short chambering? My dad had a set. It was the first firearm I ever fired. I have them now, much worse for wear after suffering through a devastating fire at my brother's ome several years ago. The Bullet Trap in Plano, Texas has a minty looking set priced at $550. last time I was in there.

http://www.bullettrapinc.com/

They appeared NIB. Seems to me like they were a limited run in the late 50's, early 60's. Drop a line to the Bullet Trap for a price check and grade comparison. The price seemed high to me, but then again, I'm not really a Colt collector by any stretch of the imagination.

Regards,
Rabbit.

popeye
June 28, 2003, 09:32 AM
Colt marketed them in the period stated. Along the way they had a few color variations. They were avail singley or as a set. Orig. release was gold plated frame with black nickel barrel and walnut grips (Lord). Then came total gold frame n barrel with pearlize grips (Lady) As I recall some total nickel were avail also. They came in cased sets Lord n Lord, Lady n Lady, and Lord n Lady.

This one was made same circa. Copy of a Sharps 4 barrel derringer. I wanted one ever since I saw "Yancy Derringer".

ahenry
June 28, 2003, 06:26 PM
The Bullet Trap price is real high. I came across a set for a bit under 200 which was an great price. Three to four hundred is a more normal price with over five hundred being ridiculous. They are remakes of the original Colt model two (I think it was the model 2) made around the late 1800’s early 1900’s. And as mentioned, they were only made for a few years.

English John
June 28, 2003, 11:18 PM
Colt made a #3 derringer in .41 after the Civil War. The look-alike #4 was made in .22 short in the 60's as stated, I had mine shipped to me in VN and ended up trading it to a Korean officer to take home to his wife. Inspect them carefully, as Butler made them after Colt. I have a pair of Butlers, but they didn't hold up as well as the Colt. They're still fun though.

Texas Bob
June 29, 2003, 12:32 AM
:) I never new what it was worth, but my father won them at a church raffle back in 1962 for $2.00 and gave them to me years later. Hardcase "book" labeled Colt Derringers and inside in red velvet are two nickel w/white pearl grips w/ con ser#'s. I was there at the time and he didn't really want to part with the $2.00 but it was the "last" ticket and for a good cause. Rember when churches and civic groups raffled a firearm and there was no paperwork.

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
June 29, 2003, 01:40 AM
oh, I figured the Bullet Trap price was out of line. They do take a good deal of consignment pieces and I bet some folks naturally have a preconceived notion of what "sum'pin's worth". I bet this is one of those cases. If I get out that way tomorrow or Monday I'll have a look and see if they're still there and get the skinny on it, just for purposes of discussion.

Regards,
Rabbit.

Dr.Rob
June 30, 2003, 05:13 AM
I've seen many of those Colts have enameled barrels, they flake off easily.

I wouldn't plan on shooting them if you bought them.

JShirley
June 30, 2003, 05:45 PM
These do have enameled barrels, and it's flaking badly. These were priced at $150. I wouldn't plan on buying unless I was gonna shoot 'em!

Thanks for all the info.

John

Slabside
July 1, 2003, 02:46 PM
Hello JShirley:

I asked a question about the very same thing over on thefiringline.com about a yr and a half ago...
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=105837

The reply I received on value was just about right. In 100% condition, expect around $350. I made many inquiries, including writing to the company, and was told the same thing...give or take. One collector that had been looking for a NIB set, like what we had, was willing to pay upwards of $500-600. That was an extreme amount in my opinion, offered by the collector because he had been looking for several yrs for a NIB set.

Keep in mind, to a collector, they are worth what the buyer is willing to pay. In the condition you state and being used however, the collector value is significantly deminished. If you are planning on purchasing them as shooters like you say, I'd suggest trying to get them for less than the current asking price.

Hope this helps. Good luck.
Slabside

mini14jac
July 1, 2003, 07:35 PM
This thread brought back memories.
My Dad had a set of the nickel w/ivorex grips.
Someone had given them to him as a gift.
I don't know if he ever shot them.

Me and my brother did! :)

I don't remember being able to hit anything with them.
We weren't supposed to touch them, but my older brother got a night job and felt like he needed protection. :confused:
He put one of Dad's derringers in the glovebox of his car, and it was stolen.

Dad still had the other gun when he passed away. The velvet box was gone.
For some reason, one of my sisters had always liked those guns, so we gave the remaining one to her.

The finish held up well on his guns.
As I said, not very accurate, but fun to shoot.

JShirley
July 2, 2003, 05:40 PM
Thanks again. I may pick them up in a month or two, if they're still around.

John

4v50 Gary
July 2, 2003, 09:14 PM
Methinks I paid $200 for my pair. Sequential serial # and it was cheap enuff (price & quality - they do flake).

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