X frame revolvers
RancidSumo
July 10, 2007, 04:01 PM
I know this probably comes up a lot but I fell like asking it anyway.
If my stocks go they way I think they will I will be making enough money to justify spending a little on a new gun so I was wondering if I should get a 460XVR or a .500. I will be reloading so ammo cost isn't really an issue. It will be used at the range and for hunting. I would also like to know what scope to put on it. Any help would be nice.
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critter
July 10, 2007, 05:59 PM
For me, I'd pick the .460 due to the increased versatility.
Deer Hunter
July 10, 2007, 06:58 PM
If you're reloading, I'd go for the .500.
JoeHatley
July 11, 2007, 04:04 PM
I will be reloading so ammo cost isn't really an issue.
You may want to price .50 bullets vs .45
Joe
Molasses
July 11, 2007, 05:41 PM
Have both. If the .460 had been introduced first I doubt I'd have a .500; the .460 is waaay more practical, IMHO.
Grey54956
July 11, 2007, 09:23 PM
As has been argued before, unless attacked by giant robots, X-Frames aren't all that practical at all.
Not to say that they aren't effective, just that they don't kill most North American game any deader than other big medicine revolvers.
That being said, I still want one. In .500 S&W Mag.
Action_Can_Do
July 12, 2007, 01:56 AM
Truth be told, I've never seen the point of the 460. Its sole purpose to exist seems to be to say it has the fastest revo cartridge. The 500 just seems to make more sense.
Greg8098
July 13, 2007, 12:38 AM
I am selling my S&W .500 Mag on consignment at a local range. I think I will go pick it back up pretty soon, and just use it for the reason I first bought it anyway. Lots and lots of fun :D! I don't think the caliber is going anywhere anytime soon, so, might as well enjoy it.
Bitmap
July 13, 2007, 09:48 AM
You can't go wrong with either one. I doubt you'll destroy any more meat with one of those than you would with a high velocity rifle. Elmer used to say that with a large relatively low velocity bullet "you can eat right up to the hole." For me, I'm not sure that the .460 is enough more than the .454 SRH to justify the cost and size of the revolver. Sure it's faster, but is the difference worth it? Kind of like the fact that a .300 Weatherby is faster than a .300 Win mag, but is it enough faster to make a difference?
I have to so that I love X-frames. The handle great and shoot great. I shot the .500 with loads that were 400gr. at a nominal 1600fps and it was way more comfortable to shoot than a SRH .454 with loads that were 260gr. at a nominal 1800fps. The weight and muzzle brake made a world of difference. Also, the gel-filled grip helped. You can add that to a SRH, but the one I shot didn't have it.
My first pick is the .500. It is a blast to use.
One advantage of the .460 is that it will shoot flatter with appropriate loads. Check the ballistic tables and see if you are a good enough shot for the difference to matter to you considering the conditions you are likely to hunt with it. If you can really shoot a handgun well enough to reliably and ethically take deer out to 250 yards and you need that where you hunt then go with the .460. If all of that doesn't apply to you then get the one you like best, or the cheapest one, or get both.
Troutman
July 13, 2007, 04:43 PM
<<If my stocks go they way I think they will I will be making enough money to justify spending a little on a new gun so I was wondering if I should get a 460XVR or a .500.>>
Either one is good. I have the 500, (4 inch, S & W) for over a year now. Several weeks ago, I bought a 460, (5 inch, S & W). Thinking of just scoping the 460, though.
One thing, when talked about the 460/500, Smith & Wesson is generally the one talked about. There are other makers, as well as different models for the 460/500, though.
<<It will be used at the range and for hunting.>>
For just plinking. Understand it will cost about, $1.25 (500 model), for shooting those holes in paper.
Hunting. If that’s the reason, go ahead. Keep one thing in mind. If buying it just because……….think long and hard about it. Unless, you want to buy it, just because.
I paid for mine both (each) the 460/500 $900.00. If you decide that either the 460/500 does not work out for you. Like anything else, you are not going to get back all that money you spent for it.
If looking for something for home defense, you can use the 460/500 as well, like any rifle, handgun, shotgun that one buys for hunting. CCW/CHL use, well there are a lot more variables, one can choose for their needs.
<<I will be reloading so ammo cost isn't really an issue.>>
That helps a lot, cost wise. Remember, when hunting season comes along, and you find that you shoot your reloads faster than you can punch them out. And you don’t have that time to punch them out, for that hunting trip. You can still purchase commercial rounds for both 460/500.
There are two new loads (for deer) Winchester (Super-X) and Federal are coming out with.
I have to come clean here; I only buy commercial rounds for all my hunting. One, two boxes the most.
<<would also like to know what scope to put on it.>>
Scopes. Go here
http://www.swfa.com/showcategory.aspx?categoryid=192
And check them out. Scopes are personal. To me, it’s like buying a pair of prescription eyeglasses, contacts.
I go to the shops and visually check them out Looking through them, that kind of thing and cost can be a factor as well for purchasing them.
I always look for the brightest scope possible.
Added note: When using for hunting, before you go on that hunt, sight-in and only use that load that was sighted-in for. I generally use my 500 out to100 yards.
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