I'm going to do a custom Glock - need suggestions


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.cheese.
July 10, 2007, 09:52 PM
I have a bunch of Glocks already, 2 23's, 2 22's, and 2 27's. The duplicates are mainly for range use.

I've been wanting to have a nicer looking gun that I could carry on times when I open carry (ie: at home and around the property, or in states where open-carry is legal and not a huge issue). Particularly if I'm dressed nicely and have a very nice holster on (ie: Mitch Rosen full detailed in Cuban Brown)..... now I'm not saying my Glocks are ugly - just that they're very plain black guns.... which is fine 99.9999% of the time as all that matters is that it works and I trust it.

For a time I was thinking I'd like to maybe get a Sig or something, but I decided today that I have so much invested in the Glock platform (mags, parts, etc.) that I'd like to stay with it if I can for this. So I think I'll do a custom Glock of some sort.

I think it will be based on either a 22 or 23. So far ideas I've had are to somehow get the slide chromed or similar so that it's not black..... maybe get a new frame like one by CCF Race Frames... and that's it so far.

Any ideas would be great, and if you have any photos of things that have been done before (it doesn't have to be yours) that would be great too.

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mfetty77
July 10, 2007, 10:03 PM
http://www.sharpcast.com/redirect/desktop/1.0/user/mfetty/photos?album=22695_97474282784001&photo=22695_97474282784002&size=imageChrome pin kit is a good start. Maybe have your slide redone. Check out Lone Wolf Dist. website. Lots of good stuff.

tractorshaft
July 10, 2007, 10:18 PM
Visit Dawson Precision, get their adjustable rear target sight and their "Optic" front. Of all the farkles I have bought for my Glocks this is the only one that I have NEVER looked back after using. They are now on ALL of my Glocks, Model 17, 21, 30, 34 and 35 (incl. LWD .357 Sig Barrel makes it 2 guns in 1). I probably shoot 500 rounds a week (mostly retired now) through the Mod. 34 and 35. I am older but not old, you simply cant fail to get a good front sight picture with their optic sight.

Here is a pic of my Mod. 35 with Lone Wolf Distributors .357 Sig barrel installed. The sights you see are the Dawson Precision models mentioned above. If your groups dont shrink in half I will buy you a case of the beverage of your choice. If you agree after trying them you can send me a thank you email.

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/5/13201440147.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5440880)

Click for version you can actually see...BTW, I am not affiliated with DP, I pay full retail for these suckers..not even a military retiree discount, although I did not ask.....Wheels spinning now...

If you are serious on your custom glock quest, visit Glock talk, the "Experts" over there will spend your money vicariously as vigirously as the venting veterans here will. :neener:

The boys at Wendell Tactical do some of the finest Glock work I have ever seen, bar none...

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/7/19022430614.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5949633)

kahrcarry
July 10, 2007, 10:32 PM
Check out the Bowie Tactical Concepts page at www.bowietacticalconcepts.com. He does some amazing work with finishes, grip stippling and grip reduction. He has a ton of pictures on the site, so you can at least get some good ideas.

Caimlas
July 10, 2007, 11:12 PM
A custom glock? I don't understand...

The duplicates are mainly for range use.

:scrutiny:

So what are the other ones for? They're Glocks, not Swiss clocks...

:D

But seriously: might you get one of those CCF frames and (assuming price is no object) then take the frame to a gunsmith who does wood working, have the grip texture and area removed, and replace it with a thin epoxed-on wooden laminate? That might look pretty nice if done well.

And, if you get the CCL frame, you could also get that nickel or chrome plated - but if you plan to do that, tell CCI you want one without a finish, and you might be able to save a couple bucks. It'll be expensive either way, but if it's a possibility with the glock's dimensions, I'd have it done, personally. With an aluminum or SS frame, I don't see why it wouldn't have the strength. Maybe, at the very least, have a smith cut a 'slab' off each side, and then make (yourself or have someone do it) some wood panel grips. THAT would be sexy, even for something as plain-jane as a glock.

Also, for aesthetic reasons, you might want to have the front light rail milled off, or if possible have the slide's corners beveled/rounded more. Those things are ugly!

Nomad, 2nd
July 10, 2007, 11:26 PM
Night sites.

Nothing else.

CountGlockula
July 10, 2007, 11:31 PM
cheese, I don't know where this guy did his; not mine. But I'd get something like it...here you go:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s192/RA357SIGT/EDCR7-1.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s192/RA357SIGT/EDCR14.jpg

CountGlockula
July 10, 2007, 11:32 PM
Another...

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s192/RA357SIGT/EDCR12-2.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s192/RA357SIGT/EDCR18-1.jpg

.cheese.
July 11, 2007, 12:03 AM
So what are the other ones for? They're Glocks, not Swiss clocks...

lol. No. For example, I carry my 27 more than any of the others. I take it to the range every so often to test function periodically, but when it comes to repeated shooting and practice, I use its duplicate. This way if something happens at the range (ie: I wear out a part), I'm not left without the model for carry while I get it fixed or get a replacement part.

Same for the 23 and 22, except it turns out I don't carry the 22 much so it wouldn't have really made a difference.

I read an article in a gun rag about this about a year ago I think and thought it was such a good idea that I bought dupes for what I had at the time (which was 1 22, 23, and 27).

For this custom gun however, there won't be a duplicate as it would probably be too costly to do so.

Anyways, so far the Bowie Tactical idea seems really good as I've read good things about his work.

CountGlockula - does that look like duracoat to you, or am I imagining things? Looks like a duracoated slide and a wheel polished barrel. I'm probably wrong though. I like it though.

check this out from BTC:

http://www.bowietacticalconcepts.com/sitebuilder/images/glock_17_SG-400x275.jpg

I like that so far.

railroader
July 11, 2007, 12:21 AM
http://cgwgun.com/centacglock.aspx Glock slide refinishing, on special right now. Mark

Caimlas
July 11, 2007, 02:41 AM
All, well that explanation for the duplicates explains a lot, and makes my response much more clear.


For this custom gun however, there won't be a duplicate as it would probably be too costly to do so.

For that matter, then, it'd be a very good idea to not change anything from 'stock' which would, in your assessment, alter the firearm's feel or function too much. In my mind, this would mean staying away from a metal frame and/or any modifications to one, keeping the same grip, and basically just sticking to a coating like duracoat to the lower, and maybe a coating or plating for the slide assembly.

But if you did want a metal lower, it might not hurt to get one, and then get a duplicate for a range gun (since that's the way you do it), and then sell one or two glocks you don't really use.


CountGlockula - does that look like duracoat to you, or am I imagining things? Looks like a duracoated slide and a wheel polished barrel. I'm probably wrong though. I like it though.

I'm reasonably certain it is a Duracoated finish - albiet a very, very good one. It looks deceptively like stainless steel from certain angles (though from others, it just sorta looks like plastic). From all I've heard, the SS Duracoat is almost as difficult to apply right as an actual metal plating (a lot of prep work), so that's an admirable job.

Personally, I can't really recommend much else, because I honestly think the aesthetic (angles, contours, etc.) of a Glock are hideous. There's little you could do to it aside from making it not-a-Glock (ie making the design so drastically different that it doesn't share much in commonality to the Glock) that would make it attractive to me. Round out the slide's top edges, round out the front and rear of the slide, slant the slide serations on the rear a bit, replace the trigger with one that isn't plastic, round out the trigger guard and remove the 'finger rest' on the front, cut off the accessory rail and smooth that area out... the result, I think, would be pretty damn aesthetic for a plastic handgun.

Dang it, now I'm going to have to sit and think about what it is, exactly, about a Glock that makes it so damn jarring to me in terms of aesthetics. I know it isn't htat it's black (plain black is preferable to dual-tone usually, and I've owned a black gun or three) or that it's blocky (I've owned a USP and own a Taurus PT111). This is going to keep me up all night...

nemoaz
July 11, 2007, 03:44 AM
then take the frame to a gunsmith who does wood working, have the grip texture and area removed, and replace it with a thin epoxed-on wooden laminate?:scrutiny::scrutiny::scrutiny: A glock for the guy who still misses the wood paneled stationwagons?

CleverNickname
July 11, 2007, 01:54 PM
You could get something like this abortion. (http://collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=13509) I could think of a lot of better ways to spend your money though.

Jason_G
July 11, 2007, 02:40 PM
You could get something like this abortion.
Holy mother of... :barf::barf::barf:
That is just sinful.

I think some NP3 and a grip resize/stipple would achieve ends in both looks and functionality. Useful upgrades are better than cosmetic ones any day of the week IMO. Pretty is nice though.

Jason

CWL
July 11, 2007, 02:45 PM
If you want to hardchrome the slide, use Tripp Research. There are plenty of other places that can probably do a good job, but I've never read or heard of any complaints about Tripp's work. He does my guns, from M1911s to H&Ks.

www.trippresearch.com

eltorrente
July 11, 2007, 03:18 PM
I agree, this is TRULY HORRIBLE!!! It's rare that I've seen something this ugly. WOW. Just beyond words..
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/eltorrente/UGLYglock.jpg

I like the looks of this one. Heh, I never thought I'd say that about a Glock, but this looks pretty darn good.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/eltorrente/CleanGlock.jpg

Black Majik
July 11, 2007, 06:23 PM
Hmm... Lotsa Glock aftermarket parts, but there are only a few things that really need to be done that can improve a Glock pistol.

1) Heinie night sights. Great sight picture, no more crappy trapezoid rear sights.
2) Triggerkit.com trigger. Lightens up the trigger nicely, smoother slack
3) Some flitz
4) Extended slide stop. The stock one sucks, that little nub actually helps.


A FLGR isn't really necessary in a compact pistol. You can play around with spring weight, I run a 13 lbs. spring which cycles the gun faster. It'll put more wear on the gun but it helps with muzzle flip.

tractorshaft
July 11, 2007, 08:57 PM
Yoh Yoh Yoh, here are the sights that you need to pimp that Glock my man ;)

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/6/15721484481.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5631653)

Click for large view!

.cheese.
July 12, 2007, 12:52 AM
You could get something like this abortion. I could think of a lot of better ways to spend your money though.

So could I. http://boles.com/called/barf.gif .... yuck

I'm just looking to do something that's still a Glock, but not a plain jain black pistol Glock. So if I open carry it, people don't see and think, "another Glock"..... or for the antis, "It's one of those evil black pistols!" lol

Something different and unique..... but still obviously a Glock.

Caimlas - I think I'll stay away from the alloy frame, but for other reasons. I looked into it and it's not looking so great. As for a duplicate of this gun - again - there's no need. Duplicates are on a per-model basis. For example 2 model 22's..... 2 model 23's.... 2 model 27's. However, if I buy another and modify say a model 22..... it's still a 22, so there's no need to duplicate it. Duplication just for an aesthetically differing pistol (and perhaps slightly ergonomically differing) would be a waste of money that could go towards ammo or rifles (or fireworks - my other hobby). If it is hugely differing in function, then I could see doing so - but we're still talking about a Glock here. If it breaks, I'll have 2 others of the same model I can use, just in all black.

tractorshaft - thanks.... but no thanks. :p :neener:

railroader - I like that boron-silver refinish offered on sale. Have you used that company?

RTFM
July 12, 2007, 07:51 AM
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/glockm_35/Glock21.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/glockm_35/Glock23.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/glockm_35/Glock27.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/glockm_35/Refinishforglocktalk.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/glockm_35/Flamesonbarrel.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r98/glockm_35/CustomMarkingDansphoto.jpg


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railroader
July 12, 2007, 08:02 AM
.cheese., I haven't used that company for refinishing, I saw post for them on another forum. I like the the boron silver too. Mark

jkomp316
July 12, 2007, 01:27 PM
thats outrageous, you couldnt pay me to own any of those guns.

Prince Yamato
July 12, 2007, 01:40 PM
Glocks aren't fashion accessories. You pretty much need a gun that has WOOD on it to make it fancy. I think that the Glock pictured in white, however, would seem rather dressy, if open carried with a black or navy suit. Other than that, get a 1911 or a Beretta for dressing up.

Jason_G
July 12, 2007, 01:53 PM
Why does the white Glock actually look okay to me:eek:?

Jason

.cheese.
July 12, 2007, 01:53 PM
A) this question is about ideas for a custom Glock - not "Whether I should buy a custom Glock or not."

B) I'm not looking for a fashion accessory. I'm looking for a gun that I already trust my life to (Glock) with a slightly more aesthetically appealing twist.

Why does the white Glock actually look okay to me?

I don't think it's that the white Glock is so great. I think it's that the others are really bad. Too overdone with way too much paint. So in comparison, the white Glock looks good as it isn't an eye sore.

mfetty77
July 12, 2007, 02:01 PM
Thanks guys, I'am sending my slide, barrel and extractor to CGW tomorrow. Going to have the slide done in the Boron Silver, extractor and barrel in black. I'll post pictures when I get it back.

Alphazulu6
July 12, 2007, 02:24 PM
If Glocks came in white/fire-blaze/camo and not black everyone would want a black one and pay $$$ to get it. So I guess its all about whats available and what is different.

I did this with my 23 and never looked back:

1) Competition Trigger (Glockmeisters usually have them for nominal cost)
2) Lasermax Laser sight (They are great as its all concealed within the frame)
3) Mepro multi colored Nightsights
4) Bought a $4 plug for the lower hand grip for (asthetics and cheap)
5) A nice bianchi holster to hold it all.

The ONLY addition I am looking at doing is adding a competition stainless barrel (Not Compensated or anything flashy) but still researching which one for the Model 23 has the best results for accuracy as there are so many great manufacturers out there.

Good Luck!

.cheese.
July 12, 2007, 03:28 PM
what you did with your 23 is pretty similar to what I have done with mine as well.

Lasermax internal
Tru-Glo TFO

I don't really count the holster as an add-on. But mine is a Galco Combat Master.

I didn't modify the trigger though.

mfetty77 - definitely post pics. I'm interested in how that Boron Silver looks.

mfetty77
July 12, 2007, 05:26 PM
It will be about 3 weeks they said. I'am sending it to them tomorrow but I'll get the pics on here as soon as I get it back.

Jason_G
July 12, 2007, 05:26 PM
Quote:
Why does the white Glock actually look okay to me?
I don't think it's that the white Glock is so great. I think it's that the others are really bad. Too overdone with way too much paint. So in comparison, the white Glock looks good as it isn't an eye sore.
Yeah, maybe so.

Jason

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