Some Good Rat Bait


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RubenZ
July 13, 2007, 11:00 AM
I have a huge Rat Problem out at our ranch and I'd love nothing more than to prone myself in back my truck with my trusty .17HMR Heavy Barrel Marlin and lay waste to them.


What is something that RATS really LOVE. Something they can smell very well? I plan to lay this Bait on something that will take them a while to figure out how to get to so I can blast them.

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koja48
July 13, 2007, 11:22 AM
Dunno about rats, since I've never had a problem with them around here, but peanut butter and/or graham crackers have always worked consistently for mice. "Bait the hole" for a couple days so they have time to find the bait station , pass the word, and get used to visiting.

MCgunner
July 13, 2007, 11:35 AM
A friend had horses when I was growing up. We could walk into their barn where all the feed was stored and have a field day with .22 revolvers and rat shot. They were scurrying everywhere, rafters, ground, everywhere. We had a lot of fun laying waste to 'em. LOL Nothing short of a truck load of rat poison would have made a dent in the population, though, I'm afraid.

RubenZ
July 13, 2007, 11:40 AM
Ya I know I wont make a dent, but its fun to do in the Off-Season of Hunting :)

Trojan6
July 13, 2007, 11:50 AM
+1 for peanut butter

NRA4LIFE
July 13, 2007, 12:47 PM
Dry dog food.

kellyj00
July 13, 2007, 12:58 PM
any grain product will lure them.
they usually follow the edges of things, urinating and defacating along the way. You can find their trails by looking for urine and feces. yucky, but hey.

My bait of choice is antifreeze, non-diluted.

Also, rats don't like light.... they run from it like the plague.

Is it pymetherin that is acts essentially like Serin and VX gas? That's the good stuff if you really want a bait.... D-con works decently too, but expensive. be careful with poison baits to keep other animals from eating the carcasses....

El Tejon
July 13, 2007, 01:33 PM
Horse feed, they love it. I used set it out and kill them by the platoons.:)

mbt2001
July 13, 2007, 02:46 PM
I try to be careful with poison, cuz other animals can get into it and die...

Use bait, dump dog food into a pile for a few days, the stay out there on Friday nights and shoot as many as possible. Rats are the enemy. The enemy will never stop, never surrender. They will keep coming, all you can do is restrict there territory and maneuver....

If you are on a ranch, my advice is to also leave the garter snakes and black snakes alone. If you don't have some, import them. Get a cat too. Never feed the bugger and nueter it. Trust me, they will whittle that rat population and in combo with your own shooting, they will be a minor annoyance.

http://www.zo.utexas.edu/research/txherps/snakes/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garter_snake

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaphe_obsoleta

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_Snake I think you can buy these as "pets"... Native to the area and you cn buy one or two and let them go to work.

http://www.zo.utexas.edu/research/txherps/snakes/elaphe.guttata.html info on same corn snake.

Look up some snakes that are in your area that eat mice and see if you can get more of them in mice infested areas. Obviously, you don't want the venomous kind and those will come if the rat population isn't kept at bay.

Fox terriers and other terriers can be death on rats too...

Snake Eyes
July 13, 2007, 03:02 PM
Also, rats don't like light.... they run from it like the plague.

Any one else find this rather amusing? I laughed out loud.

RubenZ
July 13, 2007, 03:11 PM
Snakes are not a problem. We have a crap load of Rattlesnakes. In fact yesterday I saw a few in the 40 minutes I was out there.

marksman13
July 13, 2007, 04:03 PM
I'd rather deal with the rats than the snakes. Damn, legless wonders make my skin crawl at the sight of them. I've hated snakes since I was a kid.

RubenZ
July 13, 2007, 05:49 PM
Tell me about it. I see one Rattlesnake and it ruins my whole day at the Ranch because I'm constantly looking down!

marksman13
July 13, 2007, 09:37 PM
It hasn't even got to be a rattlesnake for me, Rubenz. Just anything slithery and legless will get a reaction from me. Is it a bit ridiculous? Probably. Immature? Maybe. Do I care? Nope. I just plain don't like snakes. My best friend has a Ball Python and if he pulls it out of the terrerarium, I'm going to the house. End of story.

Back to rat bait though. I would think that anything grainy or smelly would draw them out of hiding. But shooting them isn't likely to put a dent in the population. As much as I hate cats, I think a few semi tame felines might be just the ticket for you.

ojibweindian
July 13, 2007, 10:58 PM
Why not get several barn cats? I've got 5, and haven't seen a rodent, of any kind, in years.

Cheaper than burning through lots of .17 HMR, though not nearly as fun.

eliphalet
July 13, 2007, 11:20 PM
Rats are smart, trap one and good chance you won't catch another in that trap or with that bait for some time. Build a rat trap better cheaper than you can buy.
You need a small trash can 30 inches deep or so. fix a ramp up to the edge of the trash can, then fix a stout wire near the top from one side of the can to the other. Take a pop can and drill holes in each end just big enough for the wire to fit through but will allow the can to spin. Place the pop can in the middle of the wire with some tape at each end on the wire so that can will stay in the center of the trash can.
Now smear peanut butter on the pop can, put 12 to 16 inches of water in the trash can and you have a trap that will work over and over.
The rats or mice will walk up the ramp walk the wire out to the can and once on the can it will spin they will slip off and drowned in the water and the trap is always ready for the next victim.

We used to build these for mice using a 5 gallon bucket and a pop can. You might need or want to try a larger can for rats and that is why I said a trash can rather than a bucket. It needs to be deep enough so the vermin can never get out, that their feet can't reach the bottom, and have to keep swimming. I have rid the pestilence of skunks this way using a 55 gallon can too. For the skunks we would have trash floating in the water and the skunk would jump in to a sure death, and never stink.

koja48
July 13, 2007, 11:21 PM
Save your .17 ammo . . . get a .177 cal air rifle and put a <$50.00 Leapers Bug-Buster scope with lighted reticle on it. I have zapped the occasional mouse with my Beeman R-7 set-up the same way . . . there just aren't enough of the furry little targets around to make it fun anymore . . . the Jack Russell either got most of them, or ran 'em out of the country. A Jack would definitely put a dent in the rat population, but half-wild barn cats would work better.

Aries-
July 13, 2007, 11:42 PM
eliphalet:
from the programs i have seen, Rats can swim for a very very long time. think it was somewhere over a day they could stay treading water.

that and the problem that rats can chew through a hell of a lot. dont think a 45gallon drum would last to long if they got a nick in it and started chewing.

id say for bait, peanutbutter, dog food, anything thats got everything they naturaly need in it. i think though id use a .22 instead of a .17, .17's are far more expencive are they not ? can get a case of 1000 .22's for like 30-40 bucks.

eliphalet
July 14, 2007, 12:16 AM
that and the problem that rats can chew through a hell of a lot. dont think a 45gallon drum would last to long if they got a nick in it and started chewing.
It might be kinda hard to stay in one place and chew on a slick concave surface when their feet can't touch the bottom, and swimming.

DWARREN123
July 14, 2007, 12:17 AM
Cheap dry dog food, especially from China, that way if you don't get them maybe the dog food will!:evil:

koja48
July 14, 2007, 12:24 AM
And leave 'em some Chinese toothpaste, too . . . just in case . . . :cool:

pdowg881
July 14, 2007, 12:25 AM
peanut butter has always worked for me.

marksman13
July 14, 2007, 02:43 AM
Thanks alot, Eliphalet. Now I can't get the image of a half drowned rat treading water while chewing a hole through a Rubbermaid trash can. :D

Try a metal 55 gallon drum. I wanna see a rat chew through that. I would hate to be the child whose chores included dumping the rat bucket. :what: Uuuuggghhhh! That might be worse than the time I had to burn the crap buckets in Iraq. Nasty, nasty stuff.

Best of luck with the rats, Rubenz. I think between a half dozen cats and 55 gallon rat trap, you've got this infestation whooped. Just hope your cats don't develop a taste for peanut butter.

RubenZ
July 14, 2007, 05:55 PM
Guys, Thanks for the advice. Keep in mind I'm only doing this for fun and to get rid of a few rats.

This is going to be at my ranch which has no barns, no nothing. Cats are out of the question as no one lives there and they would just run off to the nearest house.

I think I'll try the peanut butter and dog food stuff.

huntingnt
July 14, 2007, 10:36 PM
When I was a kid, we set out trays of cracked corn soaked in beer. The little bastards would gorge themselves on it and we would sneak in at about 2:00 in the morning with pellet guns and flip on the lights in the barn. They were so porked out on chow that they couldn't run fast and couldn't climb the walls. Shock and Awe on a barnyard scale.
I would really recommend a barn cat too.

igpoobah
July 14, 2007, 10:53 PM
I dunno about rats, but regular mice go NUTS for chocolate. I couldn't dispose of the bodies fast enough when I was using hershey kisses in my mouse traps...

glockman19
July 15, 2007, 03:15 AM
+1 for peanut butter, dog food and any other left overs. rats will eat just about anything.

Good luck.

TimboKhan
July 15, 2007, 05:53 AM
My stepdad is a farmer, and when I was living with he and my mom, I used to entertain myself for hours shooting the rats that made our feed silo a buffet. We had probably 10 feral barn cats at any given time (which I was also instructed to shoot), and neither they nor I put any appreciable dent in the population.

DeltaGunner
July 15, 2007, 06:55 AM
Chicken wire nailed to a 2x4, metal can nailed to top of 2x4. Extensioncord split and one side to can and one to chicken wire......... peanut butter in can.
Rat walks on wire sticks head in can and the sparks fly...........
Works on cats skunks etc.

marksman13
July 15, 2007, 03:36 PM
My dad worked over a stray dog that way, Deltagunner. Poor damn dog never stole a shoe from the porch again. Didn't kill him, but he never was right again.

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