Value of S&W m19 3 inch?


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m.pieroni
July 16, 2007, 12:52 PM
I recently was handed down a 3 inch model 19-2 K622XXX.
This is a rare (not cataloged) barrel size.
Looking for a rough value. 99% excellent condition.

Thanks all

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BillinNH
July 16, 2007, 01:54 PM
Post a pic.

Is it for sale?

Bill

m.pieroni
July 16, 2007, 02:21 PM
Photo at bottom of this page:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=260781&page=9

Croyance
July 16, 2007, 10:09 PM
A true 3" barrel? I thought the majority of the snubbies were 2-1/2" barrel.

Ops Officer
July 16, 2007, 10:32 PM
Actually, the S&W 642 barrel length is 1 7/8".

Gordon
July 17, 2007, 12:04 AM
I was issued a 3" M-19 (believe it was a -2) by the DEA in 1975. Some guys had the 2.5" version already. Most all got 3" model 65s a couple years later.:)

I think your gun could be worth $600

Croyance
July 17, 2007, 01:14 AM
Actually, the S&W 642 barrel length is 1 7/8".I'm sorry, I had meant the majority of K-frame snubbies.

Bulldog
July 17, 2007, 03:12 AM
Bah, no one wants a 19. It's all about 13s and 65s these days. Probably worth about $250, but since I'm such a nice guy, I'll offer $300........













;)

Bulldog
July 17, 2007, 03:28 AM
I'm sorry, I had meant the majority of K-frame snubbies.

19s and 66s generally came in 2.5, 4, and 6-inch flavors. The three inchers are pretty rare and command a premium on the collectors market. I've seen exactly one 3-inch 66 in person, and I gave $650 for it (down from the $775 that it was marked with). 3-inch 19s? Well, I just don't hear about 'em much. They'll probably bring even more than a 3-inch 66.

3-inch 64s, and 65s are a bit more common, thus more affordable, yet they're growing in popularity recently, and prices seem to be reflecting that on pre-lock models.

10s and 64s can be found relatively easily with 2-inch barrels, although 4-inch barrels are undoubtedly the most common.

3-inch 10s and 13s are out there, but I don't see them all that often. I've seen prices all over the board on these.

Just my observations.

Ala Dan
July 17, 2007, 04:49 AM
Very rare, indeed. Probably, $600'ish~?:scrutiny:

Thaddeus Jones
July 17, 2007, 09:16 AM
You should go over to the Smith & Wesson forum and post your query, with the pic if possible. A member there with the screen name of "Smithnut", has several of the 3" model 19's. He will be able to give you an accurate answer.

The 3" model 19 is a very rare, and desireable revolver. I have a model 66 3" and they bring more than $600 fairly regularly. I also have a 3" model 686 CS-1, which brings ALOT more than the 3" 66's.

Your 3" model 19 is rarer than both of those revolvers. I would think it will bring alot more money than you might realize :what:. Good luck. TJ

71Commander
July 17, 2007, 10:09 AM
It all depends on the model number. M10's and 15's had either a 2" or 3" barrel. M19's and 66's had 2-1/2" barrels. The M66 also has a 3-1/4" barrel. 65's had a 3". These are all K frames. They all had 4"barrels.

Here's my 3-1/4" M66-5 and 2-1/2" M66.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/66-5-b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/ca88bd0f.jpg

Brian Williams
July 17, 2007, 10:15 AM
If I had $650 in my pocket that would be my offer, but it could go much higher. The 3" 19 is one I would highly desire and I would carry it all the time.

m.pieroni
July 17, 2007, 05:52 PM
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa296/mpieroni/M19.jpg

lawboy
July 17, 2007, 07:56 PM
nice gun. i have a 3-inch 66-2. Your 19 looks like has had the grooves removed from the trigger face and the edges rounded.

Serpico
July 17, 2007, 08:18 PM
Looks like the 3" 66 was more common....great looking 19!

http://smith-wessonforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/530103904/m/8111006651/p/4

Gordon
July 17, 2007, 09:40 PM
Although that 19 is set up perfectly IMHO, It does NOT look stock as such little tweaks to hammer and trigger were not available from the factory in the 19-2 series I believe.Needs a letter to get the big bucks!

XavierBreath
July 17, 2007, 09:56 PM
I would not sell this revolver at this time. The value will only increase.

DaleCooper51
July 19, 2007, 09:06 PM
m.pieroni -

Do you know the history of the revolver?

Geronimo45
July 19, 2007, 09:12 PM
19-2... wouldn't that be pinned & recessed? With a 3" barrel?
Sounds like a pretty valuable piece.

Tom Servo
July 19, 2007, 10:33 PM
IIRC, they got rid of the pinned barrel and recessed cylinder with the -2. I could be wrong.

I agree that it's a valuable piece, and it will only become more so. Unless you a) hate it, or b) need the money, I'd say keep it.

Geronimo45
July 19, 2007, 10:35 PM
IIRC, they got rid of the pinned barrel and recessed cylinder with the -2. I could be wrong.
Oh? I guess the -# designations are different between the M65 and M19. Thought the -2s and -3s were P&R (know my 65-2 is). But I'm new to wheelguns.

Thaddeus Jones
July 20, 2007, 09:56 AM
The model 19 was P&R till the 19-5. Some late 19-4's, and early 19-5's, were "transition" revolvers. This meaning that some had pinned barrels without recessed cylinders, and vice versa.

All the model 19-3's were P&R. TJ

m.pieroni
July 20, 2007, 12:39 PM
Dalecooper51-

The revolver was given to me by my father, when he retired from FBI.
It is not a bureau issue gun though, he bought it privately.
I have a letter from S&W stating it was a trial run to test the market
with a 3" and that only a few hundred where manufactured.

Golddog
July 20, 2007, 01:55 PM
If you sell a 3" 19 for $600, you've been robbed. They're VERY scarce and very desirable to collectors. $1000 wouldn't be out of the question.

BigG
July 20, 2007, 02:00 PM
I wouldn't pay extra as it looks like it is a refit bbl. Needs to have stock gun and box with description of contents to be creditable as an original.

Brian Williams
July 20, 2007, 02:55 PM
Possible Counterfeit

With a post like this 2 above yours,
I have a letter from S&W stating it was a trial run to test the market
with a 3" and that only a few hundred where manufactured.
A letter and provenance from the Father.

And it is Pinned at least and looks like the cylinder fills the frame enough for it to be Recessed.
A pic of the open cylinder would be nice.

m.pieroni
July 21, 2007, 10:08 AM
I can assure you it's not counterfeit and it is pinned & recessed.http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa296/mpieroni/M19-2.jpg

XavierBreath
July 21, 2007, 10:20 AM
I would request a letter from Roy Jinks, the Smith & Wesson historian and recognized last word on all things S&W (http://xavierthoughts.blogspot.com/2006/01/collectors-treasure.html) concerning this most unusual revolver, unless that is the "S&W letter" you already possess. Do not sell it. Get a good appraisal or two from disinterested collectors first. I agree on the $1000 and up, with a letter from Roy.

BillinNH
July 21, 2007, 11:46 AM
M.pieroni, please don't post any more beautiful pix of that gun unless you're willing to sell it to me at a low price (which you aren't, of course).

I agree that you should hold on to it. It is really rare and very collectible.

There is another way to get one, though. S&W makes (or made) a model 19 with a 3" barrel for Walther who sell it in Europe under the model name R99. It is a late model model 19 with a 3" barrel. See attached thumbnail. Walther puts a grip on it that has their unique replaceable backstrap inserts to vary the size of the grip.

I don't know how one would go about getting one of these, however.

Bill

jad0110
July 21, 2007, 02:08 PM
I would request a letter from Roy Jinks, the Smith & Wesson historian and recognized last word on all things S&W concerning this most unusual revolver, unless that is the "S&W letter" you already possess. Do not sell it. Get a good appraisal or two from disinterested collectors first. I agree on the $1000 and up, with a letter from Roy.

That is a beautiful gun, you are one lucky guy!

Xavier is right. Don't ever sell it! If you are short on cash, eat Ramen Noodles and sell a kidney first. Heck, sell both Kidneys if you have to :D :evil:!

Thaddeus Jones
July 22, 2007, 02:56 PM
Walther R99 WOW!!! Anyone know where I could locate an R99 as a substitute for a 3" model 19 of my own? TJ

cristianlipan
November 14, 2008, 11:20 AM
I have one of this but this a stainless steel version. In fact it's S&W md.66 as it's wrote on the frame, 3" barrel, ,357 magnum caliber, and original grips.

bflobill_69
November 14, 2008, 11:27 AM
Thats a BEAUTY... Be sure to fire it before you sell it, you JUST might change your mind!

There are very few revolvers out there as nice as a model 19...

Bflobill69

krs
November 15, 2008, 02:08 PM
The trigger DOES look like a late model MIM version.

I have a 2 1/2" 66 no dash with a serrated trigger.

When did Lew Horton start selling 3" S&W's.

My 3" M27 Lew Horton.http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p263/twagger/guns/3inch_Smith27-8_LH.jpg

jdmb03
November 15, 2008, 02:20 PM
The trigger DOES look like a late model MIM version.

If the trigger was MIM it would have a notch cut out in the back.

Majic
November 15, 2008, 04:58 PM
MIM triggers don't have the firing pins mounted to them also. A P&R gun will have a hammer mounted firing pin.

The Bushmaster
November 15, 2008, 05:47 PM
Yup...Looks to be a 3" pinned, recessed with a hammer mounted firing pin...

When's the last time you saw a firing pin mounted to the trigger, Majic?

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