Walmart Hunting Knives?


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Mr.Brown16
July 17, 2007, 01:58 PM
Does anyone know if walmart carries any good hunting knifes?
Do they get more around hunting season?
Is a fixed blade better for hunting?

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Joe Demko
July 17, 2007, 02:03 PM
A good brand is a good brand, even if you buy it Walmart. Likewise, crap is crap no matter where you buy it. Buck puts out good quality hunters that Walmart carries at quite reasonable prices. I prefer a fixed blade. Much easier to clean up afterwards.

foghornl
July 17, 2007, 02:07 PM
I bought a Buck fixed-blade Model 102 ('Woodsman', 4" blade, approx 7-1/2" overall), IIRC for under $35 a couple of years back, from my local friendly Wal-Mart. Was significantly higher in the other big-box sporting goods places.

Valkman
July 17, 2007, 03:50 PM
At Wal-Mart I'd get Buck because I know who does the heat treating (Paul Bos) and he's the best. Whatever steel is used in the knife he'll bring out the best in it.

hso
July 17, 2007, 04:57 PM
I agree with Valkman. The heat treat guru at Buck is truly a master.

Kingcreek
July 17, 2007, 05:26 PM
Is a fixed blade better for hunting?
Generally, yes. There are good folders out there that will do the job but you can usually buy better steel in a fixed blade for less money.
I own a couple dozen good knives, some going near the $1000 price point, but my hunting pack carries an Eriksson #510 mora for under $10.
http://ragweedforge.com/SwedishKnifeCatalog.html

Mike U.
July 18, 2007, 06:42 AM
Buck is a pretty good bet. Don't make the mistake I see all too often and use the knife as a pry bar. Over the years I've seen dozens of broken tip Buck 110's because folks try to use it for a purpose it was never intended to fulfill. They make excellent cutting tools but are very poor and expensive pry bars.

Also, while your at Wallyworld, I would HIGHLY recommend (if your in the market for a folder) that you check out Spyderco's S30-V "Native" model at Wal*mart. At around $40.00 this is one of the best folder buys to be found anywhere. S30-V is a very top tier cutlery steel that will amaze you. Getting a knife with an S30-V blade at that price is money well spent. I wonder how Spyderco makes a profit on it at that price to be honest.

Kingcreek brings up an excellent point. For pure cutting performance a good "Mora" knife is hard to beat. I have several from Frost's of Sweden and an Erikkson and they just flat out ROCK!
Laser sharp, sharper than a razor, however you'd like to describe them, it's true. Those Swedes know how to make an outstanding cutting tool.

cracked butt
July 18, 2007, 09:17 AM
The fixed blade Bucks are a very good knife for hunting purposes. I've been using one for 10 years or so now. The worst I've done to it was take a small chip out of the edge while trying to pound it through a pelvis like a total noob. It went through ok, but I've since learned better ways to deal withthat part of the anatomy.

Kingcreek
July 18, 2007, 10:04 AM
I've got nothing against buck knives, I have a couple of older 110s that are still darn good knives. BUT the profiles on some of the newer fixed blade styles are just too deep for some tasks. I think they tried to make them idiot-resistant to tip or edge damage but they lack the ability for finer work. I like the old woodsman profile though, clip point similar to the 110.

Regolith
July 18, 2007, 10:10 AM
I'll second the Spyderco Native in S30-V. I carry one as my EDC blade, and it takes and holds an edge extremely well.

Its not exactly a dedicated hunting knife, but it'd serve well in that capacity in a pinch.

hso
July 18, 2007, 10:55 AM
I've got to disagree with the folder recommendations. If nothing else they're more difficult to clean after skinning and dressing.

Moras are great knives, but ya'll have seen me say that before.

The new CRKT hunters are good.

Heck, a buddy of mine uses a utility knife with a roofing felt blade and a standard blade and just unscrews the thing and washes it when he's done.

Fat_46
July 18, 2007, 12:43 PM
Just to throw in my $.01 (maybe I overpaid?)

I really like the Anza knives. Mid $30 price tag, good steel, holds an edge well, looks nice, and tough. I've gutted, skinned, and split aitch bones on deer with an Anza, followed it with a quick strop, and its as good as new (a bit discolored from the blood acids, but it just gives it character). I own several. And, they aren't expensive enough to cry very long if you lose one!

Don't discount custom knives either. I own 2 from Nick Allen, both made from O-2 tool steel. Very good knives, and very affordable.

Mr.Brown16
July 18, 2007, 12:47 PM
I heard that the Spyderco Tri-Angle Sharp maker is the best way to sharpen you knifes. Ive heard that sharpening good knifes destroys them because it takes the good metal away?

hso
July 18, 2007, 01:14 PM
Improper and over sharpening ruins a good knife. Most folks don't know how to care for knives so they sharpen when they should steel or strop and they sharpen improperly which leads to over-sharpening which leads to loss of metal and destruction of the bevel.

Mr.Brown16
July 18, 2007, 02:06 PM
How do you know if your over-sharpening or all ready have

ArmedBear
July 18, 2007, 02:56 PM
Cheap hunting knives won't make you as angry when you leave them in the field.:)

Kingcreek
July 18, 2007, 03:35 PM
Cheap hunting knives won't make you as angry when you leave them in the field.
On the other hand...
spend $500 or more on a knife and I'll say you are very, very unlikely to ever leave it in the field.

In addition to the Eriksson mora (that rides in my pack as mentioned above), I often hunt with a Dozier folder in my pocket, or a custom drop point on my belt.

MCgunner
July 18, 2007, 04:14 PM
I wouldn't trade my Gerber Gator Serrator for a dozen fixed blade knives. It's light, handy, and sharp and does the job. Its non-slip finish is awesome. It's well made and after 15+ years is still a tight lock up and gets shaving sharp. I got it at Walmart a long time ago.

Frankly, I can do about anything I need to do in the field with the blade on my Buck multi-tool. All you have to worry about carrying is something you can gut with. I get it home to butcher. I have a nice Case Kodiak hunter and a Wyoming saw and such once I get home in addition to the Gerber. Hardly ever use anything, but the Gerber and the Wyoming saw for butchering, all I need except for my new electric grinder/stuffer. :D

Mike U.
July 19, 2007, 01:59 AM
If there was an award for most ergonomic handle on a folder, I'd give it to the Gerber Gators. I have the drop point in ATS-34 and it is hands down the most comfortable folder I've ever held. Too bad it's not a one-handed opener and has to be carried in a sheath. I gave up the folder sheaths when I retired my Buck 110.
Pocket clips and one-handed opening and closing ability are features that are just too bloody handy to give up on a folder.

hso,
I agree with you. Folders are a bitch to clean up after game processing.
I like the Spyderco S30-V Native as a general purpose pocket knife. For utility chores it flat out ROCKS! The edge is thin enough to make it an awesome slicing and cutting machine and the edge holding is just outstanding.

I have and use a Spyderco Sharpmaker and highly recommend it for general sharpening duties. The thing is almost foolproof and the results speak for themselves. The Sharpmaker will sharpen darn near anything that has an edge too. Every Sharpmaker comes with a how-to video that teaches how to sharpen everything from nail clippers to axes and even potato peelers! A very good investment.
Since I make knives (former part-timer, now as a hobby), I have access to a lot of equipment that will make short work of sharpening chores from belt grinders to Japanese water stones and the Sharpmaker sees most of the yeoman sharpening duties in my household.

Stainz
July 19, 2007, 07:40 AM
He wanted a good hunting knife from Wally World. They carry the Buck 110 lockback folder for $30 and the fixed 119 for $35 - either will serve you well. And... if you want a great pocket knife - get that Spyderco Native S30V - $40 well spent. Mine is great... replaced my Kershaw Scallion in the watch pocket and Kershaw Blur in the back pocket with it (They are in dire need of sharpening!). I need a Spyderco 'Sharpmaker'! Note... all of the knives I mentioned are fine examples - and made in the USA!

Stainz

Mr.Brown16
July 19, 2007, 05:36 PM
Well guys I just got my knife and I had a long decision to get a winchester over a buck. I really like the look of it so let me know what you guys think of it its a little dull?
http://images.outdoorinteractive.net/mgen/487138_d.jpg

Drusagas
July 19, 2007, 05:56 PM
IMHO, someone once called that Winchester the "Wal-Mart special", and I agree. It costs $15 and I couldn't really find too much wrong with it, though I must say that I am not the experienced hunter some of these other guys in here are, so take my thoughts with a grain ;)


BTW - just bought one of these babies


http://www.dantesknife.com/images/SOGD26T.jpg

:evil: oh yeah

sonofodin
July 19, 2007, 08:49 PM
SOG rules.

Stainz
July 19, 2007, 10:35 PM
I bought one of those a year or two back - gave up on sharpening it, it just didn't seem to want to take and keep an edge. I blamed it on the Communist Chineese steel. I gave it to a friend - he is happy with it -says it took a decent edge... he uses it to cut twigs, stems, etc in his garden. The Buck 119 is more there - but US made - and has decently sharpened steel. Good luck with that 'Winchester'.

Stainz

Valkman
July 19, 2007, 11:20 PM
We raved about the heat treatment that Buck knives get for a reason - you know what you're getting. Now you don't and can only hope you can sharpen it, so I'd get a good sharpener like a Spyderco but it'll cost more than the knife.

As for folders, I would not use one hunting. Have you ever seen pics of what happens when the point catches on something and the guy's hand slides up the blade? Gimme a fixed blade anytime, made so the hand is secure from the blade.

Mr.Brown16
July 20, 2007, 11:22 AM
I dont know what to do. There is a knife store around where I live I could just take it in and get it sharpened or I can take it back and get a Buck.
:banghead:

Valkman
July 20, 2007, 12:56 PM
Might as well get it sharpened and try it out, and maybe if it's not that great you can get a Buck in a few months. There's no reason for a new knife not to be sharp, but I do hope it works out for you.

MCgunner
July 20, 2007, 01:16 PM
Too bad it's not a one-handed opener and has to be carried in a sheath. I gave up the folder sheaths when I retired my Buck 110.
Pocket clips and one-handed opening and closing ability are features that are just too bloody handy to give up on a folder.

In a HUNTING KNIFE why does it have to be a one hand opener? Can't you sling your rifle long enough to open the friggin' blade, much less gut the deer???? And, the gator is VERY LIGHT on the belt. I've yet to see the sheath knife that can match it for light weight. I carry mine, usually, in a coat pocket or day pack, though. I could give a flip if I can open the thing with one hand. I ain't that lazy and when I'm butcherin', I don't need to be some ninja blade flipper. I've got time, the meat ain't going to spoil in a couple of hours.

I guess I'm just not tacticool with blades, either. Those butterfly knifes are a good way to whack your manlihood off. I see knives as hunting tools, eating tools, cleaning tools, not ninja assault weapons. I ain't Jim Bowie, I'm just a hunter lookin' to clean his kill. The lighter and more compact the blade the better for carrying. And, the Gerber gets the job done quite well. It will go in a pocket if you can't stand it on your belt. I mean, I don't carry my hunting knife every day. I have a Leatherman Supertool on my belt for everyday and I use it a lot, mostly for back up on bolts or sometimes the screw drivers, occasionally scraping a gasket off, something I wouldn't wanna use a quality hunting blade for.

hankpac
July 20, 2007, 01:53 PM
The only reason for a "One Hand Opeing" feature on a folder, is for use if the hunter is actually injured, and needs the ability to deploy a tool with one hand.
Hunters are often alone, in remote areas, and aren't expected to check in until the end of day if at that. Waiting 5 or six hours upside down hanging from your tree stand, with a dislocated shoulder, could be obviated by cutting yourself loose.
It's a just in case issue. Under normal conditions, I still use two hands to deploy my skinner or carver.

cracked butt
July 20, 2007, 02:10 PM
You only need one hand to 'open' a fixed blade knife.

Stainz
July 20, 2007, 03:01 PM
Great point, C.B.!

I'd opt for taking that Chineese 'Winchester' back and getting the Buck 119 Special from W-M, if you can. Bucks are serviceable as delivered - and made here, even if it's nearly twice as much. Remember, the 'real' Winchester makes ammo here, not knives, etc. The 'Winchester' that made long guns went belly-up last year - and some of their stock was made in Japan anyway!

It's easy for me to spend your money... don't forget your GST! (Sorry!)

Stainz

hso
July 20, 2007, 03:09 PM
Unfortunately that Winchester was probably made in China out of a badly heat treated piece of their "equivalent" of AUS 6 (which is "equivalent" to 440A). Not equivalent to the Buck.

Gibbles
July 20, 2007, 03:40 PM
A good knife should come out of the box razor sharp.
If memory serves me right, Wal-marts cost on those Winchester knives is only about a dollar.
One thing that I learned a long time ago is spend as much as you can afford to on a blade and you won’t regret it.

MCgunner
July 20, 2007, 03:50 PM
I can open most folding knives with one hand. Used to do it with my Buck 110s and my Schrade Uncle Henery (40 lb knife, LOL!). Just get the blade started to open with thumb and forefinger, then open it up on your jeans. Works for me. It ain't fast, of course, but if I was hangin' upside down, I could/would do it. It's not a major concern for me at any rate.

I can see what you're sayin' now, though. I was a little confused, thought maybe you wanted to play ninja on the deer carcass or something, ROFL! One thing I can't do is open my leatherman with one hand, though. The Gerber, sure. I've gotta fish through all the tools just to find the danged blade on the leatherman, LOL!

41magsnub
July 20, 2007, 03:53 PM
Heck.. on my Gerbers I can do the wrist flick thing to snap the blade open. Not that I would ever do that however.. that would be dangerous! :D

Mr.Brown16
July 20, 2007, 05:15 PM
Well guys thats IT.
Im taking back that peace of garbage and geting a Buck tonight.

MCgunner
July 20, 2007, 05:20 PM
This thread in mind, I stopped at the sporting goods counter at wallyworld a while ago and checked out the "winchester" and buck fixed blades there. Well, uh, for the extra 20 bucks the Buck costs, I'd take it back and make an exchange. LOL I ain't that discriminating about knives, but for a serious hunting knife, the winchester is, well, I don't want one. Thick blade, heavy, be a good utility knife if you keep it, but save for the Buck if you want a sheath knife. It's only 35 dollars, ain't gonna break the bank, and it'll last you a long time if you don't lose it. Bucks get arm shavin' sharp and keep an edge well.

TimboKhan
July 20, 2007, 05:38 PM
Wal-Mart has some good buys on hunting knives, in particular the Buck Woodsman, as has been pointed out several times now. The Woodsman is a classic design that is time-tested.

I would HIGHLY recommend (if your in the market for a folder) that you check out Spyderco's S30-V "Native" model at Wal*mart. At around $40.00 this is one of the best folder buys to be found anywhere.

I wholeheartedly agree with you on this one. Unfortunately, my Walmart has stopped carrying them, apparently in favor of carrying the new Leatherman folders.

Mr.Brown16
July 21, 2007, 02:32 PM
Well guys I got my blade its a Buck Special 119 I cant believe how good it is.:what:
http://image.bizrate.com/resize?sq=160&uid=155416327&mid=63506

Valkman
July 21, 2007, 03:04 PM
Sweet. :)

MCgunner
July 21, 2007, 03:56 PM
Yep, checked it out yesterday. Nice knife! I've got plenty of knives I don't use already or I'd been tempted. LOL

My dad gave me this Case Kodiak Hunter in 1975. I was sharpening my knives up after this thread got me in the mood yesterday and I stropped that one to the point I was dry shaving my face with it, wife thought I'd gone nuts. LOL It will sharpen up that sharp, though. It's an expensive over the counter blade, runnin' about $160 now days I think. Mine has a stag handle on it, this is supposed to be buffalo horn, but looks more like elk or something to me. Stag has gone way up in price and I guess they had to change handle materials. I prefer the stag, though. It's a little long at 6", but I've used it to butcher and it makes for a good skinner on hogs. I never carry the thing hunting, though, big, heavy. My Gerber folder is my carry knife.

http://www.jaysknives.com/casebowie/casekodiak.jpg

coelacanth
July 23, 2007, 12:38 AM
now, get some edumencashun on how to keep her sharp and you're well on your way to being an official "knife nut" . Welcome to the crowd:D.

Mr.Brown16
July 23, 2007, 10:56 PM
ooh I know im a knife nut when i got my knife I must have played with it for two days.
:uhoh:

MCgunner
July 24, 2007, 10:53 PM
Be productive, buy a chicken and cut it up for frying. :D

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