M1 Carbine and WOLF


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Texasred
July 18, 2007, 12:04 AM
Hey, I have a USGI M1 carbine and was wondering a good source of 15rd magazines?
And the main question is whether or not it is safe to use wolf in my old lil rifle??

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Spiggy
July 18, 2007, 12:15 AM
cant tell ya about the carbine mags on account of state legislation


BUUT! all my carbine freinds get FTEs with wolf... guess it's underloaded or something

Course, I'm not in any position to give advice until we figure out what made my carbine explode *pwahahahahahaha* [/insanity]

Dave Markowitz
July 18, 2007, 08:55 AM
You'll need to try Wolf in your rifle to see if it works well. It works fine in some but not others. I've run 100 rounds of Wolf through my Underwood M1 Carbine with no issues, except that it left the chamber a bit dirtier than brass cased ammo.

M2 Carbine
July 18, 2007, 09:36 AM
Check the gun shows for magazines.

Personally I don't use Wolf (steel case ammo) in anything but my AK, SKS and Makarovs.

While you are at the gun show pick up a couple extractors ($8) and a bolt tool ($20). You may never need them but the extractor is the weakest part in the Carbine.

BTW steel case Carbine ammo is no bargain.
If you shoot brass case ammo, collect the brass and sell it to a reloader, you'll be shooting good ammo for about what the cheap ammo costs.

Better yet reload your own ammo and you'll be shooting excellent ammo for half the cost of store bought.

Texasred
July 18, 2007, 05:25 PM
Hey M2 you are probaly right and since I really only reload 10mm and 357 I was planning to shift over to the 30 carb also.
So do they make brass catchers that work well?

Oh yeah are carbide dies available? No lube?

DougW
July 18, 2007, 08:46 PM
I think that CMP is only offering Wolf .30 carbine right now. My Auto Ordnance runs very well with Wolf. Accuracy is good, no failures yet. Cheaper Than Dirt has some decent 15 round mags. They may have some rust, but it has niot been bad. I bought a bunch, steel wooled (0000), and Aluma-Hyde II painted. They all function fine. They were selling around $12 each last time I checked.

Deer Hunter
July 18, 2007, 08:49 PM
Over at The Box of Truth, they did a text of Wolf .30 carbine rounds vs. others. The Wolf was severely underpowered, they concluded.

M2 Carbine
July 19, 2007, 01:00 AM
Texasred


Hey M2 you are probaly right and since I really only reload 10mm and 357 I was planning to shift over to the 30 carb also.
So do they make brass catchers that work well?

Oh yeah are carbide dies available? No lube?

I haven't seen a brass catcher for the carbine.

The Carbine is a tapered case but you still don't need lube with good carbide dies like RCBS.

Firehand
July 19, 2007, 05:46 AM
I've fired close to a thousand rounds of Wolf through my Inland, no problems at all. And it's been one of the two most accurate brands I've tried. I mostly use it at outdoor ranges(amazing how easy it is to lose brass, isn't it?)

CMP noted a lot of people have had problems with Wolf due to the steel case damaging/dislodging the extractor; so far not a mark on mine that I can see. Seems to be a 'my rifle does/mine doesn't' thing with this ammo.

I will second 'get a bolt tool'. Taking a Carbine bolt apart without the tool isn't too bad; putting it back together without one is a first-class pain in the butt.

M2 Carbine
July 19, 2007, 08:59 PM
Firehand
CMP noted a lot of people have had problems with Wolf due to the steel case damaging/dislodging the extractor; so far not a mark on mine that I can see.

Extractors breaking is a pretty common thing, even with brass case ammo.

Last year I broke two, on different Carbines, in a couple weeks.

Last year I found a NIB IAI (Houston) WWII Commemorative M1 Carbine.
IAI has been out of business for a while. They made very nice looking 30 cal and 5.7 Johnson Carbines, that had some refinished M1 and M2 GI parts.

It should be a wall hanger but I have to shoot everything.:)
It had extracting problems. It seems that the GI bolt that IAI installed in this rifle had a broken extractor.

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