.221 vs. .223


July 18, 2007, 10:41 AM
i bought a fireball, and i shoot a 40 grn ballistic tip pushing 3300 fps. how does that compare ballistically to an average .223? 'Cause i'll be using this gun for my coyote hunting. or am i better off using a 50 grn bt pushing 3000 fps?

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July 18, 2007, 10:54 AM
How far out are you shooting them?

I would think your setup would be deadly on 'yotes.

July 18, 2007, 11:04 AM
ooo, my shots on 'yotes are no farther than 100 yards

can i safely shoot the coyote broad side with my set up, or should i go for head shot?

Vern Humphrey
July 18, 2007, 11:14 AM
I take coyotes with a .22 Hornet -- my load drives a 35 grain Hornady V-Max to a bit over 3,000 fps. It's deadly.

July 18, 2007, 11:16 AM
you are good to go with the fireball load

July 18, 2007, 12:04 PM
alright, thanks for the replies

July 18, 2007, 09:42 PM
I'm a Fireball fan too. Mine is a Rem 700 Light Varmint Stainless Fluted with a 20" barrel. I load the exact bullet (Nosler 40 grain BT) and the Sierra 40 grain BlitzKing. Powders I like are Lil'Gun, Reloader #7, and IMR 4198. Lil'Gun is the - I'm on steroids powder for the Fireball.

You won't have any problems with yotes with what you have.

July 18, 2007, 10:02 PM
nice, and flashole, you probably hunt coyotes in the same type of woods i do. any tips?

July 18, 2007, 10:52 PM
go with which is more accurate, if that is the 40 grn, that is fine, it will smack a
yote easy, doing 3300fps.

July 18, 2007, 11:02 PM
i realize ballistic tips are made to explode on impact, should i be looking for a different bullet type? hollow point maybe? or are ballistic tips just fine?

Taurus 617 CCW
July 18, 2007, 11:11 PM
You will do just fine with ballistic tips. I used to work at Nosler in their pro shop and I don't remember one person coming in with a complaint about the ballistic tips on coyotes, with the exception of not being able to save the pelt due to the large wound cavity!

As far as maximum kill goes I would recommend the 40 grain ballistic tip using your powder of choice. That should do nicely. If you're looking to save the pelt you will want to go with a lighter hollowpoint boattail bullet.

July 19, 2007, 05:39 AM
Aim well :)

The ballistic tips will go through a 4X4 at 100 yards, done it many times. The gun is new to me and thus far the only victims are crows. I will say that primers make a difference for accuracy. The CCI BR4 are about the mildest and result in the most accuracte loads. The CCI 400 is good too as is the Rem 7 1/2 Bench Rest. Federal 205 is kind of hot and groups open up.

July 19, 2007, 08:31 AM
man, i kind of underestimated a ballistic tip. going through a 4x4 is pretty crazy. i guess i coyote won't stand too good of a chance.

July 19, 2007, 10:10 AM
Here's a table of Remington's ballistics for their .221 load and several of their .223 loads.


.223 definitely has a ballistic edge, but the .221 load is no slouch, and your 40gr load appears to be hotter than their 50gr .221 loading.

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