.221 vs. .223


PDA






grafsk8er
July 18, 2007, 10:41 AM
i bought a fireball, and i shoot a 40 grn ballistic tip pushing 3300 fps. how does that compare ballistically to an average .223? 'Cause i'll be using this gun for my coyote hunting. or am i better off using a 50 grn bt pushing 3000 fps?

If you enjoyed reading about ".221 vs. .223" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
SShooterZ
July 18, 2007, 10:54 AM
How far out are you shooting them?

I would think your setup would be deadly on 'yotes.

grafsk8er
July 18, 2007, 11:04 AM
ooo, my shots on 'yotes are no farther than 100 yards

can i safely shoot the coyote broad side with my set up, or should i go for head shot?

Vern Humphrey
July 18, 2007, 11:14 AM
I take coyotes with a .22 Hornet -- my load drives a 35 grain Hornady V-Max to a bit over 3,000 fps. It's deadly.

BsChoy
July 18, 2007, 11:16 AM
you are good to go with the fireball load

grafsk8er
July 18, 2007, 12:04 PM
alright, thanks for the replies

flashhole
July 18, 2007, 09:42 PM
I'm a Fireball fan too. Mine is a Rem 700 Light Varmint Stainless Fluted with a 20" barrel. I load the exact bullet (Nosler 40 grain BT) and the Sierra 40 grain BlitzKing. Powders I like are Lil'Gun, Reloader #7, and IMR 4198. Lil'Gun is the - I'm on steroids powder for the Fireball.

You won't have any problems with yotes with what you have.

grafsk8er
July 18, 2007, 10:02 PM
nice, and flashole, you probably hunt coyotes in the same type of woods i do. any tips?

rangerruck
July 18, 2007, 10:52 PM
go with which is more accurate, if that is the 40 grn, that is fine, it will smack a
yote easy, doing 3300fps.

grafsk8er
July 18, 2007, 11:02 PM
i realize ballistic tips are made to explode on impact, should i be looking for a different bullet type? hollow point maybe? or are ballistic tips just fine?

Taurus 617 CCW
July 18, 2007, 11:11 PM
You will do just fine with ballistic tips. I used to work at Nosler in their pro shop and I don't remember one person coming in with a complaint about the ballistic tips on coyotes, with the exception of not being able to save the pelt due to the large wound cavity!

As far as maximum kill goes I would recommend the 40 grain ballistic tip using your powder of choice. That should do nicely. If you're looking to save the pelt you will want to go with a lighter hollowpoint boattail bullet.

flashhole
July 19, 2007, 05:39 AM
Aim well :)

The ballistic tips will go through a 4X4 at 100 yards, done it many times. The gun is new to me and thus far the only victims are crows. I will say that primers make a difference for accuracy. The CCI BR4 are about the mildest and result in the most accuracte loads. The CCI 400 is good too as is the Rem 7 1/2 Bench Rest. Federal 205 is kind of hot and groups open up.

grafsk8er
July 19, 2007, 08:31 AM
man, i kind of underestimated a ballistic tip. going through a 4x4 is pretty crazy. i guess i coyote won't stand too good of a chance.

benEzra
July 19, 2007, 10:10 AM
Here's a table of Remington's ballistics for their .221 load and several of their .223 loads.

http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/ballistics/comparative_ballistics_results.aspx?data=PRA221FB*L223R7*PRA223RB*R223R2*RM223R1

.223 definitely has a ballistic edge, but the .221 load is no slouch, and your 40gr load appears to be hotter than their 50gr .221 loading.

If you enjoyed reading about ".221 vs. .223" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!