New AKM 47RM by Lancaster


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PRazz
July 21, 2007, 04:32 PM
I want to thank THR for all the info I have learned about the AK in particular. I have also learned much over at AK Forum and various links provided through posts from many members. Thanks for sharing.

Last time I touched an AK was back in the late 80's. I was visiting my uncles house in Ky and us teens were allowed to handle and shoot anything there, pistols, shotguns, rifles. His job kept him on the road alot and he would pick up and collect guns wherever he was at. I can remember a closet full of all kinds of rifles, multiples of everything. AK's SKS's M1A's M1's AR's full size, paratroopers, underfolders, all countries, etc. I was always partucularly drawn to the simple design of the AK's and the way they fit me. They were the funnest for me to shoot.

Anyway, going on 20 years now and I finally am getting around to one of my own. I had my heart set on an M1A this year but my taxes weren't that good so I had to go ahead and get number two on my list. I purchased this http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/programming/expand.asp?Prodid=275
from Atlantic Firearms. My FFL faxed the papers Thursday and I put a money order in the mail Thursday as well. I'm hoping to be shooting it by next Saturday if it ships out fast. I'm hoping that the Lancaster is as nice as I think it will be.

Are there any other specs, tips, tricks, info, anyone can tell me about the Lancaster consulting AKM 47RM? Any additional features not listed on the website? Any chance for optics? I think it's a Romanian G build, how easy to install a Romanian side folder?

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nalioth
July 21, 2007, 04:41 PM
Romanian and East German side folding stocks were designed so the production line didn't have to be changed, but the troops could have a 'folding stock AK'.

These stocks are a direct replacement for the fixed wood stock, no mods necessary.

dstorm1911
July 21, 2007, 04:43 PM
As far as the side rail, get Lancaster to install one at additional cost etc... unless ya are into drilling and riveting one to the reciever yourself... its a super simple job for experienced builders and the guys at Lancaster can do it in a few minutes as they already have the jigs etc...

Check for actual USA parts count, several of the Tantals they have done have turned out to be a lil short on the 922R compliance parts...

The Rommy sidefolder is a real simple install ya will simply remove the two screws from your wood stock, remove your pistol grip and its nut, slide in the folder (ya may need to shorten the tail on the release lever so that ya will be able to get the PG Nut past it no bigiie everything past the leverage pin is excess anyhow and serves no function) install the tang screw to hold everything in place while ya re-install the pistol grip nut and the pistol grip, now go back to the tang screw tighten it then try to fold the stock if its locked back the tang screw out and shorten it a few threads and re-install, if the stock folds then your done..

have fun...

nalioth
July 21, 2007, 05:24 PM
remove your pistol grip and its nut I didn't have to remove any of my pistol grips when installing. Is that procedure for EG stocks? (I don't have any EG side folders)

Brother in Arms
July 21, 2007, 05:35 PM
yup p-grip nut helps to hold on the East german and Eygptian sidefolding stocks. they have a sheet metal exstenstion with a cut out for the p-grip nut screw. Since the Romanian version is inspired by the East German I suspect they deleted this feature to save metal and speed up manufacture.

Brother in Arms

AK103K
July 21, 2007, 06:04 PM
Any chance for optics?
Ultimak and an Aimpoint. This combo beats pretty much anything else for speed, ease of handling and shooting. Mounts the red dot low, up front, out of the way, and allows the use of the iron sights through the dot tube. (Aimpoint on a low ring)

The Russian stuff is cheaper, but it sits to high and close to your face to be natural to shoot with, and blocks your field of view. The rifle with the forward mounted dot shoulders just like your shooting iron sights and you get the same cheek weld.

If you go this route, dont scrimp on the dot. Buy quality once, cry once, and be done with it. The Aimpoints are built to take the abuse, and have a battery life that is 24/7/ 1-5 years, depending on model, so you dont even have to turn them off.

The Romanian wire stocks require no alteration to the gun,(most stamped receivers) nor do they require removing the pistol grip to put them on or work. You may have to file one of the screws shorter, maybe not, depends. You may even have to go get screws, depends on where you get them. These stocks are the correct length and the rifles shoulders just like a fixed stock rifle. They are also more comfortable and stable than most of the underfolders.

PRazz
July 21, 2007, 09:54 PM
I really was thinking of keeping the scope mount totally removable. Something like this: http://www.copesdist.com/images/117-1703_IMG.jpg Any experience with something like this? Or with a seperate dust cover with the scope mounted to it?

I was considering a red dot or hologram, haven't looked into them much yet. Thanks for the tips.

I'll have to pick up a Romanian or East German folding stock. Sounds easy enough to change. Thanks

benEzra
July 21, 2007, 10:58 PM
The Russian stuff is cheaper, but it sits to high and close to your face to be natural to shoot with, and blocks your field of view. The rifle with the forward mounted dot shoulders just like your shooting iron sights and you get the same cheek weld.
A Kobra, or one of the Russian tube-type dot sights, does indeed sit high (as I measure it, the center of the Kobra's lens is 3.8" above the bore axis). However, for me, the AK's sights have always been too low compared to the height of the stock, so the Kobra is the one AK sight system I've tried that actually works well for me (I do much better from a more heads-up position, due to glasses). Having a high sight also pushes your MPBR out a bit compared to a sight sitting lower. Your results may vary, though.

Here's a Kobra on the siderail of my SAR-1:

http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/uploads/1168567538/med_gallery_260_23_20379.jpg

http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/uploads/1168567538/gallery_260_23_6447.jpg

Using that reticle, the dot is useful for distance shooting and the chevron for close-in (POI with the chevron is right on at 15 yards or so when the dot is zeroed at 50, and a 50-yard zero gives you a far zero around 200 or a little beyond).

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=249285

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