One Caliber Fits All


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Bitswap
July 21, 2007, 06:55 PM
Hello everone,

I started a thread a few weeks ago on 'How many calibers' to take game from rabbits to grizzlies and the responses were fantastic!

Now I'm going to up the ante and restrict this to one caliber, but the game now is between rabbits and deer.

The question now is: If you could choose only one caliber (including shotgun) for these game, still having a fair amount of meat left, what would it be? Consider the shooter to be advanced-intermediate capable of 2" groups at 150 yards.

I look forward to the results.

Thanks,
Bit

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Picknlittle
July 21, 2007, 07:08 PM
I'll stand by my first answer. .35 Whelen. Load some light loads with 158 gr pistol bullets for bunny boppers and other small game and still handle everything from deer to elk and bear with 200 through 250 gr. loads.

Good all around caliber.

krimmie
July 21, 2007, 07:26 PM
Now I'm going to up the ante and restrict this to one caliber, but the game now is between rabbits and deer.

I would go with a .12 gauge shotgun given your parameters. You could buy a Mossberg 930 autoloader in 3", plus an extra slug barrel for under $600. Now you'd be able to take game from rabbit to dear AND include waterfowl and other flying yummies.

stormspotter
July 21, 2007, 08:12 PM
223/5.56

Vern Humphrey
July 21, 2007, 08:17 PM
The .30-06 or .35 Whelen (although mine is a .35 Brown-Whelen) with a Hammond Gamegetter. The latter is a cartridge case with an off-center "flash hole" which is really a chamber for a .22. You insert a nail-setting blank in that chamber and a sized buckshot in the case mouth (sizer included) and it makes a very nice small game cartridge.

Alphazulu6
July 21, 2007, 08:21 PM
Only one firearm that I know of can "realistically" take everything from a pigeon to a brown bear.... and POSSIBLY bigger if you can get the right slugs.

12 gauge shotgun.

Clipper
July 21, 2007, 08:26 PM
I would say you'd be safe with a .243, even though I personally would use a .257 Roberts...

Nolo
July 21, 2007, 08:31 PM
I'm gonna third the 12 gauge. There's nothing you can't do with a shotgun in this caliber with a 3 1/2 inch chamber. I loves me some 12 Gauge. Heck, I could see somebody (myself?) saboting a .223 projectile in a 12 gauge shell and getting the same performance as a 5.56mm. You're all welcome to try.
EDIT: If I'm gonna be shipped off to an alien planet and can only choose one weapon and one only, it'd be a 12 gauge shotgun. A Browning BPS with an 8-round magazine (and deer sights) to be specific. An extra barrel (rifled) would be nice, too.

JesseL
July 21, 2007, 08:31 PM
I'd say the most practical option for someone who wants to use factory ammo would be a 12- or 20-gauge shotgun, especially if you include a rifled slug barrel.

Mr White
July 21, 2007, 08:32 PM
.243

55 gr for rabbits and varmits
75 gr for coyotes
100 gr for deer

koja48
July 21, 2007, 09:30 PM
Gotta go with the 12 gauge.

JimmerJammerMrK
July 21, 2007, 09:47 PM
Now I'm going to up the ante and restrict this to one caliber, but the game now is between rabbits and deer.

I'd say .243 or .270, depending on where you'll be hunting.

pmbiker
July 21, 2007, 10:18 PM
.223/5.56

GunTech
July 21, 2007, 10:48 PM
12 gauge with interchangable chokes incluing a rifles one will definitely do everything. That being said, I don't hunt birds so a 308 or 30-06 would be my choice for a one gun, do everything rifle. with bullets from 110-240 gn and handloads, I believe you could cover anything. You can even get 22 caliber sabots and shoot 22 bullets if you wanted.

browningguy
July 21, 2007, 10:51 PM
I think there is already about 7,263 threads with the same subject. Who cares, just get 8-10 different calibers then you can be reasonably well covered.

JesseL
July 21, 2007, 10:57 PM
I'm curious how some of you folks are gonna use a .223/.243/.257/.270 on a rabbit and expect to have much edible meat left?

Are you counting on strictly head shots, or are you loading low-velocity cast bullet rounds?

Clipper
July 21, 2007, 11:29 PM
Unless you're in the habit of taking your rabbits from 300 yards, where else BUT the head are you shooting 'em with a centerfire???

Strongbad
July 21, 2007, 11:35 PM
I'm curious how some of you folks are gonna use a .223/.243/.257/.270 on a rabbit and expect to have much edible meat left?

Are you counting on strictly head shots, or are you loading low-velocity cast bullet rounds?

A: Solids (or even FMJ).

Put me down for the 243 as well.

JesseL
July 21, 2007, 11:36 PM
Unless you're in the habit of taking your rabbits from 300 yards, where else BUT the head are you shooting 'em with a centerfire???

They must hold still more for you than they do for me.

mavracer
July 22, 2007, 12:11 AM
while I dont think its the best choice (that would be a 243 or 250/3000 or the like) but I have used my marlin 1894 cowboy .357 for rabbits and dear with good success and its a joy to carry/shoot. anything from mouse fart 158 lead RNFP at 750fps to 180 hornaday xtps at 1800fps

martinc64
July 22, 2007, 12:57 AM
Well, you did not say "What is the best calibre" and there probably isn't a "best calibre" you just asked what I would choose.

I would choose a .243

GunTech
July 22, 2007, 01:32 AM
I don't see why you couldn't use 243 FMJ, or even hard cast lead bullets, loaded to very low velocity. Should keep meat damage down to a minimum (albeit probably not ideal)

ArfinGreebly
July 22, 2007, 02:15 AM
Clearly I don't spend enough time over here in rifles.

I'm going with a .357 carbine.

Mine's a Marlin 1894C.

You can load down a .38 if you're worried about too much punch. I'm not sure which slug works best for rabbit, but I'm guessing something in JHP for headshot, FMJ for anything else.

You can load up a .357 for deer.

Actually, since the standard factory load on hard-cast lead will knock down a bison (from a revolver), there's probably little need to "load up" for deer.

I'm guessing that little "cowboy" gun could cover a whole range of game and git 'er done.

Remarks?

22LongRifle
July 22, 2007, 02:30 AM
The gauge that I've been using all of my life, 22lr!

A close second and legal 20 gauge!

22lr

rangerruck
July 22, 2007, 05:32 AM
easy, anything, in 6mm remington. much longer bbl life, more accurate than a 243, super fast 2to300 fps faster than a 243. hand load bullets down to frangible 55 grains for small stuff, and a nice fat factory loaded remington 100 grains power soft points, will drop a deer , like it was struck by lightening.

now that being said, if you can find an old, or a modern(european) rifle made for the Savage Hi-power, then this would clearly be the one. it is a 5.7 x 52 , cartridge, that is typically 70 or 75 grain bullets, loaded at about 32 to 3400fps.


Heck, this should have been the round our military was using, for the past 100 years.
short action, fast, flat shooting, mild recoil.

Regolith
July 22, 2007, 05:38 AM
If I, for some reason, was only able to have one gun, it'd be a 12 gauge shotgun. Extremely versatile, and capable of taking anything in North America.

BusMaster007
July 22, 2007, 05:48 AM
I'll choose the 7mm Remington Magnum.

It has light to 'almost heavy' bullet selection --- 100-gr. to 195-gr. ( Barnes Original, if you can find 'em ).
Varmints to Big Game then.

It flat kicks a$$.

Yes, head shots on small game.
Yes, deer at short to extreme range.
Uh, birds...? Well, that'd take practice!

Besides, it's the world's most popular magnum, so ammo won't be a problem...

The Deer Hunter
July 22, 2007, 09:49 AM
.308 Win

Walkalong
July 22, 2007, 09:53 AM
.308...it will do it all, especially in the hands of someone who can shoot 2" groups at 150 yds as you stated in your post. ( Head shots on rabbits )

The Deer Hunter
July 22, 2007, 10:05 AM
Well pretty much if you want to kill tiny game and big game a shotgun. But next best thing is .308 WIN.

Or .307 if you like lever actions.

deadkenny
July 22, 2007, 11:21 AM
Since this is the "Rifle Country" folder, I'll stick with a centrefire rifle suggestion - with my cartridge of choice for 'rabbit to deer' being .250 Savage.

jkingrph
July 22, 2007, 11:35 AM
If you reload, anything 6mm through 35 calibers. If not that restricts you considerably, most centerfire rifle ammo being two powerful for rabbits(leaving anything edible , if just shooting as varmits anything is ok).

Considering all that , probably the 32-20 or 32H&R Mag. up to one of the 357 mag. rifles/carbines. Load with 38 Special and not too much damage on a rabbit. All of those are marginal on deer, but with a close range well placed shot will do the job.

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