A Dragunov Style Stock for My Saiga 308-1


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mordechaianiliewicz
July 21, 2007, 11:51 PM
Well, folks. I'm looking for a fairly simple accessory. I am looking for a "drop-in" style Dragunov stock for my Saiga 308-1. Something where I won't have to change the existing receiver on my Saiga, or have any real work done. I'm looking for this because all I really want to mod my long range Saiga with is a skeletonized stock, a bipod, and an inexpensive Bushnell or Tasco scope with the East Bloc rail setup.

I don't really wanna get a Tromix setup unless it's with my soon to come Saiga 12 gauge. Does anyone know a link to a drop in shoulder stock like that which I can just take the old Monte-Carlo style out, and install a new Dragunov one in?

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nalioth
July 22, 2007, 02:27 AM
One like this? http://www.gilbertsguns.com/Stocks/Saiga/R...letonized+Stock (http://www.gilbertsguns.com/Stocks/Saiga/Russian+Saiga+Skeletonized+Stock)

http://www.gilbertsguns.com/productimages/003376.medium.jpg

Frog48
July 22, 2007, 02:30 AM
Thats pretty cool... you'd get a more aggressive look, without doing the "conversion".

rangerruck
July 22, 2007, 05:29 AM
go here , too. I'm sure some dude has got one for sale.
http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?http://forum.saiga-12.com/

FORTHELOVEOFGUNS2nd
July 22, 2007, 07:33 AM
I myself have the Saiga 308 16" and I put the skeleton stock on mine to. I will give you a run down of what I did and where to get some stuff. There is a web site called Davids Collectibles and thier web address is http://www.tickbitesupply.com/stocks.htm/#top that will take you right to the page where you can find a rear folding stock made for the Saiga in Russia it is more like the AK folding stocks but check it out for your self. I am a gun collector and I shop a lot of web sites. The web link you got from your first recomendation at Gilbertsguns.com is where I got my stock as well as my Saiga rifles. I have the eastern bloc side rail with a BSA Platinum scope 6-24X44 and you can pick this scope up at Natchez.com they have the Platinum on sale right now for $79 outstanding scope it also comes with 3" and 5" sunshade. I use the BSA Contender scopes mil dot 16 power on my AK and my 223 and same thing you can get them for like $60.
Back on the 308 you can also buy a 20 rd magazine for it check Gilberts if not check out Davids Collectibles from the previous web address I gave you. I painted all of the polymer parts on my 308 Magpul Flat Dark Earth. I only use Duracoat firearms Finish It looks really sharp. I painted the mag, front hand rail, rear skeleton stock(not the cheek rest I left black and the but plate), scope mount and scope rings.
I also have a Saiga 223 20" barrel same setup skeleton stock contender scope just not painted. They also make a new front hand guard with built in rails but I think it is for the shotguns only.

mordechaianiliewicz
July 22, 2007, 02:17 PM
Okay. Well, I know that with this stock, I'm 922R compliant because it isn't a folder, or a pistol-grip. And it is drop-in (ie at most I'll have to drill a hole in the stock). Could you describe the installation?

Also, your link didn't work FORTHELOVEOFGUNS2nd.

A good question is can you install a folder (like you describe) and still be compliant? Is there a folder that can be installed without a receiver modification?

I don't know if I would do that with this weapon, I would likely do it on a Saiga 12 gauge, but I still want to know.

indie
July 22, 2007, 02:44 PM
http://www.tickbitesupply.com/stocks.html

^ there is the link to the stock FORTHELOVEOFGUNS2d was speaking of.

I am thinking of buying a saiga 7.62 as my first long gun, and getting a skeleton stock as well. Here is the lowest price i have found on that stock. So far

http://yhst-70335205963818.stores.yahoo.net/sastwiadchpi.html

indie
July 22, 2007, 02:52 PM
here is another link for the folding stock w/ free shipping from saiga 12

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=11292&mode=linear

wally
July 22, 2007, 03:38 PM
Shop around you can find the Saiga .308 & .223 with these "Dragunov" style stocks pre-installed at the factory for much smaller price premium that buying the after market version after you get the "normal" gun.

www.miltarygunsupply.com has had them in the past.

--wally.

Navy87Guy
July 22, 2007, 03:46 PM
A good question is can you install a folder (like you describe) and still be compliant? Is there a folder that can be installed without a receiver modification?

Short answer to the first question: no. Short answer to the second question: yes.

If you install that pistol grip/side folder combo, you have taken your rifle (or shotgun) out of a configuration "suitable" for hunting and turned it into an assault rifle - so now you have to worry about 922R compliance. If you're going to go down that route, then I'd consider either a full conversion (which is really pretty easy) or buying the ACE version which is made in the US and counts as 2 US parts for compliance (and you're going to need a total of 5 to be compliant). Here's a link: http://riflestocks.com/SaigaAK.htm

As for your second question, those sets just replace the sporter stock that's on your rifle now. No modifications needed.

The skeletonized stock you described earlier (like the one linked from Gilbert's) does not put you under 922R -- you can actually buy a Saiga in that configuration.

Jim

Eightball
July 22, 2007, 09:06 PM
Nifty. I've been wondering about this type setup for mine, as well. Any wood thumbhole/skeletonized stocks like that around?

indie
July 22, 2007, 11:49 PM
i havent seen any yet for sale eightball, but check out this model

http://www.ak-47.us/gear/Gear_Review_Detail.php?g=gear1141107770

Eightball
July 23, 2007, 12:12 AM
....I want that stock. Blast the .308-1! :P

mordechaianiliewicz
July 23, 2007, 02:07 AM
Navy87Guy, what other parts would be necessary for 922r compliance that could be easily installed? And, frankly is there a website describing this? I'm planning on getting a Saiga 12 gauge, and would like to mod it with a folder, and would be willing to do other mods. Basically, I'm looking to avoid fees from sending this to a gunsmith, or changing the gun so much, it can't be altered back.

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