How do guns get dirty when not in use?


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.cheese.
July 22, 2007, 12:00 AM
Seriously, my head is about to burst figuring this one out. I haven't gone to the range in months and I always clean my guns after the range. I'm cleaning them now because the house was treated with boric acid for fleas (thanks pooch! :rolleyes: ) and dirt is coming up. Looks like powder residue.

The only explanation I can come up with is that I use Break-Free CLP as a lubricant and maybe after months of having a thin layer, some burnt powder that was caked on thinly previously loosened up.

What's your hypothesis?

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Guitargod1985
July 22, 2007, 12:02 AM
Cheese,

I have noticed the same on some of my guns. Your conclusion is the same that I came up with.

Alphazulu6
July 22, 2007, 12:05 AM
The only explanation I can come up with is that I use Break-Free CLP as a lubricant and maybe after months of having a thin layer, some burnt powder that was caked on thinly previously loosened up.

CLP is one of those Lubricant Protectants that keeps Cleaning! hehe.

That gunk you see on there is just some krud that it pulled up since your last cleaning. This is a neat function if purposely used as such. Otherwise that krud brought up to the surface does not help your action function.

This is why your Drill Sergeant was so adimate that you wipe your firearms down after cleaning :D

On a side note I always recommend to people to use a light coat of oil AFTER they clean with CLP as the CLP will slowly dry and this does not help the blueing of your firearms when in storage (like a light coat of good gun oil will protect). Just my findings.

Guitargod1985
July 22, 2007, 12:21 AM
Hey, Alpha, what would you consider a good oil? I've noticed the CLP doesn't protect the blued finishes as well as I had hoped and am looking for something to help out with the high humidity here in Florida.

fulloflead
July 22, 2007, 12:26 AM
Seriously, my head is about to burst figuring this one out. I haven't gone to the range in months and I always clean my guns after the range. I'm cleaning them now because the house was treated with boric acid for fleas (thanks pooch! ) and dirt is coming up. Looks like powder residue.

The only explanation I can come up with is that I use Break-Free CLP as a lubricant and maybe after months of having a thin layer, some burnt powder that was caked on thinly previously loosened up.

What's your hypothesis?

That's pretty common in the bore. Things just loosten up over time, especially if you wet the barrel with something at the end of your last cleaning.

Other than that, a lot of oil or vibrations will cause things to "come up".

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aka108
July 22, 2007, 12:28 AM
I run a wet patch of Hoppes 9 thru the bore when putting the piece up for awhile. While the bore appears clean at that time the solvent keeps working. Always run a patch or two down the bore before using again and a lot of stuff comes out.

carpenter
July 22, 2007, 12:35 AM
I'm no metallurgist but the inside of your bore is porous and retains residue from shooting. I have never been able to get a bore so clean that I could not produce some "fouling" on a white patch.

My conclusion? I get the really obvious stuff out and don't worry about it after that. It's not like it's got to go into an operating room.

So, since I can't ever get it spotlessly clean, that means there's always residue in the bore/cylinders. Which means that days/weeks/months later you'll still get crud out.

I just don't worry about it, anymore.

Alphazulu6
July 22, 2007, 12:35 AM
Hey, Alpha, what would you consider a good oil? I've noticed the CLP doesn't protect the blued finishes as well as I had hoped and am looking for something to help out with the high humidity here in Florida.

I actually think I helped ruin the finish of my first P3AT because I only used CLP for the finish. Couple that with the constant pocket holstering and sweat from being in a pocket, my blueing was gone in a few months of everyday carry. Kel-Tec being the nice people they are replaced my upper reciever but it was clearly my fault! It has stayed nice and black ever since :D

For oil protectant I like plain old Hoppes #9 oil for my usual firearms. My CCW and those that I take out to the field under all types of conditions (minus the desert) I have found Hoppes #9 + weatherguard. It is all I have found that keeps the moisture of sweat off the firearm for my CCWs and sticks* on the firearm while its raining or in "less than desireable conditions". Here is the link;
www.hoppes.com/products/lube_weatherguard.html

Hope this helps!

Ratfood
July 22, 2007, 12:40 AM
Anyone know if Rem oil keep the blue up better than CLP

Alphazulu6
July 22, 2007, 12:50 AM
Any major production gun oil will keep your blue up better than CLP. CLP is best suited for parkerized finishes or high heat/viscosity firearms, feed trays, heavy actions.

Use CLP for cleaning, but after your done wipe it down and then apply a light coat of gun oil for your blued firearms or those that you are going to keep close to your skin (CCWs) as the sweat and salts will eat your firearm finish alive. Read my above post. :D I really wish that they would publish this on the bottle so people wouldnt find out the hard way. hehe

Guitargod1985
July 22, 2007, 12:54 AM
Thatnks, Alphazulu :)

Ron James
July 22, 2007, 01:17 AM
My understanding is the Rem Oil is CLP. Remington does not make their own oil. They put their name on a already established brand.

Alphazulu6
July 22, 2007, 01:27 AM
CLP is not a true oil. It is a solvent. If this is true I dont know how they could market it as such other than it "protects" parts. I truly only personally know cleaning products such as Hoppes, Prolix, CLP, and a few others that are not so noteworthy....

Remington says it is a Cleaning, Lub, Proctectant with Teflon.
www.remington.com/products/accessories/gun_care/oils_&_lubricants.asp
Sounds about like CLP or Prolix. I am not sure if it would have a good base coat of oil or not to protect against salts from sweat. Maybe try it out and see if your blued gun loses its finish? HAHA j/k

Me, I will stick with good old CLP and a light coat of Hoppes #9 Oil as it seems to work for all my firearms as I refuse to lose another blued finish:D

I just took this pic of my CCW. It is my blued P3AT after 8 months of carry and me using the proper oil to coat it and it looks like new. The first slide I completely faded/rubbed off the finish in the first three months by not using gun oil (CLP only) Your mileage may differ but I cant afford to make another mistake on a blued finish. Though my Glock has never faded due to CLP/wear. It looked a bit greyish after a while using CLP only so I throw oil on it too now for good measure and it holds its dark black parkerized finish :D

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z176/Alphazulu6/007.jpg?t=1185082415

fulloflead
July 22, 2007, 02:10 AM
CLP is not a true oil. It is a solvent.

That may be true, but it makes a great lube. I've been using it for that for a long time. Besides, it makes a lousy solvent but a great lube.

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