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DontBurnMyFlag
July 22, 2007, 05:26 PM
hey everyone.

Ive been looking for a decent .308 bolt gun for a while now. I like Savage, I like Remington and I really really like Steyr and FN. :D

But Im trying to be more economical. Ive tried every gun store in the surrounding area and they only sell rifles in .270 and 30-06. The .308's that I have seen are $2500 Remington m40's or 700s with McMillan stocks and a whole lot of work done to them.

Should I try wally-world? Cabellas? Big chain stores in PA?

Im just at a loss here. Its not like these are rare weapons.

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GunTech
July 22, 2007, 05:31 PM
What's your budget? Your use? Try Gunbroker. If you like FNs, check out Ray Tanner of Tanners sports. I've bought a couple of FN bolt guns from him and his prices are the best.

FPrice
July 22, 2007, 05:46 PM
Won't any of them order a .308 Bolt for you? My FFL has one of these hanging on his wall and it is a nice piece of iron and wood.

http://www.savagearms.com/10gxp3.htm

MinnMooney
July 22, 2007, 06:13 PM
Try budsgunshop.com in Paris, Kentucky. Just do a search for 308 plus any brand that you're interested. Hint : when you do your search on bud's website, try 'Sav' for savage 'cause he sometimes shortens words in the descriptions. He has about the best prices that I've run into for new guns.
I see that he has a Savage Model 16 (Weather Warrior) synthetic stock .308 for under 5 bills. There's no sales tax for out-of-staters so your only add-ons are shipping ($25) and the FFL fee (usually $10 - $30).
I've found the Savage Model 110 GXP3 for around $445 + same at other shops.

Good luck.

woof
July 22, 2007, 06:31 PM
Savage?Stevens has one that sells for under $300. Synthetic stock, 22 in bbl, under 7lbs. I have a friend who bought one and he got one inch groups the first time out. I'm sure it has some downsides compared to the pricey guns, but it seems what you want and the price is right.

MAKster
July 22, 2007, 06:40 PM
Most of the chain stores like Dicks and Walmart don't sell 308 rifles. They sell 270 and 30-06 because those are more oriented to hunters while they view 308 as more military. I know, it makes no sense, but that is their attitude.

The Deer Hunter
July 22, 2007, 06:50 PM
Most of the chain stores like Dicks and Walmart don't sell 308 rifles. They sell 270 and 30-06 because those are more oriented to hunters while they view 308 as more military. I know, it makes no sense, but that is their attitude.

Yeah, most of the rifles I see are in .270 or .30-06.

woof
July 22, 2007, 06:52 PM
Addition to my post above:

Here is one on gunbroker http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=76519453

I have heard of them selling between 259 and 299 so you may be able to get this one for 269. Of course then you have ship and FFL, so I'd call around to shops within drive distance first.

Alphazulu6
July 22, 2007, 06:59 PM
Yeah I was at Walmart last week and they said they dont carry .308 anything. The nice old man (well ok he wasnt nice and really quite impatient so whatever) said that he sees all calibers but .308. Maybe the .308 is just a bad rifle or something.

But they had plenty 270/300 mags and WSMs in stock.... pathetic. LOL

deadkenny
July 22, 2007, 07:05 PM
Well, actually the venerable .30-06 and .270 Win are pretty much 1 and 2 in overall sales. Since the 'volume' places rely on 'economy of scale' as their advantage, it's not surprizing that they focus on the higher volume (in terms of sales) calibers. Having said that, .308 is also one of the top sellers, so it is a bit surprizing that they don't have that caliber in particular. Perhaps it does come back to, as suggested previously, some 'bean counter' views .308 as being 'military' (although I'm surprized one of those types would even realize that 7.62x51 and .308 are the same cartridge).

Big Daddy K
July 22, 2007, 07:12 PM
Looked at some Savages at Gander in 308. Also had them in 223.

DWARREN123
July 22, 2007, 11:30 PM
Look around and see what you like and then call
WWW.WHITTAKERGUNS.COM
and see what they can do for you.

jefnvk
July 22, 2007, 11:46 PM
Wal-Mart should be able to order the gun for you, as should any gunstore in your area.

http://www.walmart.com/search/browse-ng.do?ic=12_0&ref=125872.256298+&exp=500500.1228

DontBurnMyFlag
July 23, 2007, 02:15 AM
thanks for the replies guys. I actually went into a store and asked for .308 and he showed me a .270 since he didnt have a .308. He asked "what do you hunt?" I said I dont and he let out a unsatisfied "oh".

haha. I guess there are just a lot more people buying deer rifles than anything else around my neck of the woods.

Ill keep at it until I find something. Ill try all your advice as well. Thanks again.

TOU
July 23, 2007, 12:57 PM
DWARREN123 wrote: Look around and see what you like and then call
WWW.WHITTAKERGUNS.COM
and see what they can do for you.

http://www.whittakerguns.com/

I agree especially if interested in CZ's. Whittaker's have some of the bet selection on CZ's, best prices and are great to deal with. However, they don't have pictures and won't send any. You can get them to open two and pick the best one though. Only $15 shipping as well. Anyway, I have bought a half dozen CZ's from them and have found them to always be as good or better than described. Good luck!

Average Joe
July 23, 2007, 02:11 PM
Most rifle manufactures make rifles in many different calibers, If your dealer doesn't have the caliber your desire, have him order one in what you want, not what he has in stock.

Smitty in CT
July 23, 2007, 09:17 PM
Take a look at the Mossberg 100ATR in .308
http://www.mossberg.com/images/products/100ATR/26010_26020.jpg
Walmart wil order them...for $315.17 and you get a real walnut stock!!

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4665475

I have one in .270, it consistantly groups at or below MOA that's with a "cheapo" bipod on her.

Smitty

Neo-Luddite
July 23, 2007, 10:40 PM
I'll hate myself for saying this; if there is a bargain .30/06, why not consider it? Unless you're in a rareified group, the differences between .308 and .06 are fairly transparent. If you're sitting on a massive stockpile of .308 ammo--what about a nice .308 Enfield? There are still some to be had for a few bucks.

And as far as .308 being 'military', that was (AFAIK) an after thought--it was
built for long range deer hunting. Anyway, BOTH will be around for quite a while.

PS--heard nice things about the value for $$$ for savage lately, but don't know first hand. Good Luck.

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