[Oleg Volk]

http://www.dps.state.mn.us/bca/CJIS/Documents/CarryPermit/States.html
Maybe I'll get their permit, if they issue to out of state residents.

I will note that my MN-provided training was viewed as substantially similar by Florida, which issued me a non-resident CHL.

[treeprof]

Lemme guess, the MN DPS was opposed the CCW legislation?

[HankB]

So states with STRICTER standards and more hoops to jump through than Minnesota (Texas, New York, etc.) will not have their licenses honored?

I smell politics. (Wow, am I ever surprised!)

[critter]

Oleg, I live in Arkansas and this state is the same way. If there is a state that they (AR) 'think' has LESS of a training requirement for CCW, they will not ok reciprocity with that state and therefore that state will not recognize the AR ccw. Yup, politics. Therefore, I also have an out of state FL permit that covers the states I need it to cover.

We NEED a total national reciprocity agreement with all states that works like drivers license-good in one, good in all.

[Matthew Courtney]

It seems to me that the reason FL permit training requirements are not "substantially similar" is that they do not require additional training for renewals. The Minnesota permit requires that even to renew, you must have had additional training within 12 months. Louisiana not only requires additional training for each renewal, it requires that you requalify for each renewal.

[Airboss]

Texas requires training and re-qualifying to renew a CCW

[Matthew Courtney]

I stand corrected. Thanks for the 411, Airboss. I have edited my prior post.

[rock jock]

What's funny about this is that this very argument was used by opponents of the nationwide-CCW bill for LEOs, i.e., that some states were more stringent than others in LE training. Of course, based on a couple of articles I have seen from MN LE-types, they don't carry their guns much off-duty anyhow.

[greyhound]

...how much this has to do with the constant whining and moaning about this new law in Minnesota. Its as if the leftists/sheeple/one-worlders didn't see this coming but now are banging their drums against it. Seems like on packing.org there is a anti-CCW Minnesota editorial being posted every day. If you really want to get red-faced angry, go see where the Sheriff of Washington county called CCW applicants "soft white guys". :cuss:

[cobb]

Now I know why Minnesota made it fairly simple for nonresidents to apply for permits to carry. They won't accept permits from other states, so they want you to pay them $100 for a Minnesota permit.

Follow the money folks. :rolleyes:

[Standing Wolf]

To give credit where credit's due, Minnesota's leftist extremists are the nation's biggest bunch of whiners and sore losers.

[AZRickD]

After four years and only 6 recipricol agreements for Arizona, we learned that the "supstantially similar" clause created a razor blade that was nearly impossible to sit on the edge. It was designed to be as unlikely as possible to reach agreements.

That's why we had our gunnie legislators add what I call "unilateral reciprocity" to the law. The theory is that if we recognized a whole bunch of permits unilaterally, there would be several states that would recognize Arizona because they have clauses which recognize any state which recognizes theirs.

We tried to recognize Vermont as well but it was removed somehow, somewhere.

Rick

[SteelyDan]

This pisses me off. I admittedly did not go back and read the law tonight, but I read it several times when it passed, and my understanding was that the legislature mandated broad reciprocity, except in those cases where other states' laws were not "substantially similar." Now, "substantially similar" does not mean "identical," and it does not even mean "similar." It just means close to similar.

The truth is that the new Minnesota law is broader than most states' laws in several respects. So the only thing I can imagine, as HankB noted, is that the DPS rejected the large majority of states that have even more restrictive standards, on the pretense that they were not substantially similar. Barf! That is not what was contemplated by the bill that was passed.

Something strange is going on here, and it probably is a political reaction to the endless, mind-numbing articles in the local papers. The dang bill was passed six or eight weeks ago, and there are still four or five articles a week in the papers, most of them on the front page of one of the two main news sections.

I have to do a little more research on this, but this is wrong, and it's not over.

[powerstrk]

I am willing to bet that the three listed states are the only ones that have replied to MN on reciprocity to date. As time goes on I am sure you will see more.:)

[greyhound]

I still think its a response to the "blood in the streets" and "shootouts over fender benders" hue and cry the the one-worlders are yelling about. If I lived in Minnesota I would be somewhat worried over how this is developing with the constant anti editorials, the sheriffs dragging feet on issuing permits, and now this. Sheesh.