Hunting on cattle land


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trueblue1776
July 23, 2007, 09:33 PM
Quick question for the salts around here:

Just got permission to hog hunt on a BIG cattle ranch (woods/creeks/pastures/ponds), what is the etiquette for taking game around cattle? I don't want to spook any and have them run through fences or whatnot.

I go scouting this weekend, then it's game on. Many confirmed large hogs, I'm gonna need bigger grinder and a bigger grill. I feel like a kid at Christmas, he said I could "remove" the "trouble" gators too.;) Me thinks I'll be eating gator poboys for a while. :D:D:D:D:D

Thanks in advance for cattle wisdom.
Hank

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Stinger
July 23, 2007, 09:42 PM
Just don't shoot the cows...all will be well.

trueblue1776
July 23, 2007, 09:44 PM
They won't stampede from a gunshot?

H&Hhunter
July 23, 2007, 09:45 PM
The main thing is to leave all gates as you find them. If they were open leave them open and closed be sure to properly close them behind you.

Shooting around cattle isn't a problem, shooting a cow is. Be careful what is behind your target.

Have a great time.

They may run a short distance from gunfire but they won't "stampede".

Stinger
July 23, 2007, 09:48 PM
I wouldn't want to be standing in the middle of a couple hundred head (i.e. don't use them for camoflauge :what:).

I don't know how much hunting has been done on this land...if it is a lot, then they won't give it much notice. If it is little to none, pretty much the same deal. I'd try to get away from them as much as possible, but they might try to follow you around. They generally see a pickup or 4 wheeler as a pizza delivery.

trueblue1776
July 23, 2007, 10:47 PM
This guy has never let anybody hunt and is not a hunter himself, thus my glee. I thought maybe the cows have heard loud noises from time to time, but hey, I know nothing about cattle.

R.W.Dale
July 23, 2007, 10:56 PM
They won't stampede from a gunshot?

They will however cluster round you thinking you're gonna feed em, and a ground blind left unattended will get the zippers and any frilly parts chewed up.

trueblue1776
July 23, 2007, 11:15 PM
It's not a feed lot, just grazing land, I assume they will just ignore me. No worries about the blinds, I'm a foot hunter, plus these are supposed to be super aggressive hogs (which has something to do with why I'm getting free pork).

rantingredneck
July 23, 2007, 11:20 PM
Best advice I can give is ask these questions to the landowner. Some are particular about where they want you hunting in relation to their cows. Some dairy farmers (including the one whose land i hunt) believe that shooting too close can spook them and affect milk output. I don't know if it's true or not but I'm not about to argue with the man who is giving me access to his land. Be courteous and ask the landowner. Talk to them, offer to help out when you can. You'll be more likely to be asked back that way.

Trojan6
July 24, 2007, 02:45 PM
+1 on talking to the landowner. I typically try to close gates to keep the cows out of an area I'll be hunting hard on my own ranch. This is mainly because ours are curious and want to be fed, so they become a nuisance following me around everywhere I try to walk. Ours are accustomed to shooting and don't stampede, just usually meander away when any shots are fired. If you learn the layout and talk to him ahead of time, or you successfully scout out the most used areas of the hogs, he might be willing to close certain gates to keep them out of your way. Can't hurt to ask and could be a win/win situation for all. Don't close gates that were open beforehand without talking to him, though, just as was discussed before.

LH3

jmorris
July 24, 2007, 02:58 PM
When you leave it should look like you were never there. If you see trash that someone else left pick it up, so the owner won't think it was you. If you are hunting at night be very careful not to shoot any livestock, if the place is big enough it shouldn't be a problem to find an area away from "friendlys"

ArmedBear
July 24, 2007, 03:57 PM
Slow Elk tastes good. Makes great steaks, ribs and burgers.;)

Skoghund
July 26, 2007, 10:21 AM
The only rule we have when shooting near cattle is if you shoot one you get to carry it back.

trueblue1776
July 26, 2007, 10:34 AM
Scouting went well, he has more land than I imagined. The main creek has many tracks, most appear to be (as I suspected) on the cusp of 100lbs, no evidence of superpig :( . Gators are in at least on pond, I need to confirm the catfish :D . I have my own sportsman's utopia! :cool:


The only rule we have when shooting near cattle is if you shoot one you get to carry it back.

Let's see.

I can dead lift 450lbs 2-1/2ft off the ground for 3 seconds before my spine turn to goo, (mumble mumble.... carry the two..... mumble mumble... times seven.... mumble......)

YUP! I can definitely shoulder a 700lb angus! :D

My friend has made it clear that he will sell me as many as I want for stockyard price, I will NOT accidentally shoot one! I think they go for about $1.25 a lb on the foot, thatsalottadough!!!!!

mbt2001
July 26, 2007, 12:26 PM
Make sure you know which pasture the bull (supposing they have one) is in and stay out of that pasture.

Unlikely as it may sound, I dang near got gored by one once.

H&Hhunter
July 26, 2007, 03:01 PM
Bull? I say bring it on baby!!!;)

CSA 357
July 29, 2007, 01:19 PM
Ihave hunted around cattle a good bit, the only trouble i ever had was the cows gathering around me i guess they thought i was gona feed them, kinna hard to call up a big gobbler with a herd of cows stomping around, enjoy your new hunney hole you lucky dog! csa

ArmedBear
July 29, 2007, 01:21 PM
Ever heard of a stalking horse?

I suppose a stalking COW would work just as well.:D You could use it as a shooting rest, too.

sharkhunter2018
July 30, 2007, 05:59 PM
+1 on the gates. My mom used to work on a 2000+ acre farm with horses and cattle. For the longest time, there were problems with the local fox hunting group (horseback type) goin thru and leaving gates open. Searching for several hundred head of cattle on a 2000+ acre farm, that may have found thier way to another heard of cattle someplace else on the farm is not fun.
+1 on talking to the landowner as well. It would be easiest to do that, incase he has any specific areas where he wouldnt want you hunting. I dont think hed be too happy if you dropped one of his prize cattle

mbt2001
July 31, 2007, 02:47 PM
Yeah, mind the gates.... ALSO, repair gates and fence line you see down, damaged... So get some bailing wire and duct tape...

Alagator
August 1, 2007, 03:25 PM
Check around before you take one of those nuisance gators-- you may be breaking the law. Alabama has a gator season, but it is very limited, and permits are awarded by a drawing. Don't complain about those 100 pound pigs-- they are much tastier than the big boys.

Rumpled
August 1, 2007, 04:05 PM
$1.25 a lb?! Out here it was 78 cents last week.
I paid $1.75 for a 1300 lb'er

4H auction at the fair and the difference (1.75-.78=.97 a lb *1300= $1261) is a tax writeoff.

Support a kid raising meat is a good thing.

BBQ at Rumpled's in September!

Iggy
August 1, 2007, 05:18 PM
Keep in mind that at that bargain carcass price, that 40% is waste. Bone, gristle, and fat.:evil:

As to etiquette... talk to the land owner. Find out his wishes and advice on good spots, and bring him a package of meat when you have it processed.

trueblue1776
August 1, 2007, 06:11 PM
Alabama has a gator season, but it is very limited, and permits are awarded by a drawing.

You are correct, but it is legal to protect livestock.

phantomak47
August 1, 2007, 08:06 PM
trueblue,

Which part of Alabama do you hunt? I lived in Tuscaloosa for a few years and mostly hunted in Brent , Al on the Cahaba river. My hunting lease out there was terrible, but I still had a good time.

trueblue1776
August 1, 2007, 10:45 PM
Phantom-
I live in Mobile, but I hunt in super super secret land. I have never spent a dime on a hunting club, I prefer to hike/canoe the delta swamps, not many guys are willing to share my ground.:D

TehK1w1
August 5, 2007, 02:55 AM
One thing that may help is that (feral) pigs and cows tend to avoid each other.

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