Unidentified Cleaning Kits


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TheDisturbed1
July 24, 2007, 06:12 AM
I was given these by a thrift store who couldnt sell them. These look like a definate military issue of some sort (possibly foreign).

Pics vary in size and are fairly high res (1024x768 & 1200x900 px.), so I'm keeping them to links only (to help out slower comp's/bandwidth).

All the kits are shown here, 2 are opened up. The one the left looks almost new while the one on the right is very used and dirty:

> http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d186/disturbed001/c-kits1.jpg

The dirty kit, has markings on the inside "GAG 1969":

> http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d186/disturbed001/c-kit-unkownmark.jpg

Close up of the clean kit, I illustrate some parts that confuse me. "?" #2 is larger than a .45, It wouldnt squeeze in my .45 at all. Looks like you slip a patch in that to clean the bore:

> http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d186/disturbed001/cleanKit1.jpg

The lids of the solvent containers... in foreign language?

> http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d186/disturbed001/ck-solvents.jpg


I would greatly appreciate if you guys can find out what i have and what its used on. Like pic#2, I have another kit with markings that says "GYGAX 1966".

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max popenker
July 24, 2007, 06:21 AM
The W+F on lids stamp is the key, IMO; it means "Waffenfabrik Bern", the Swiss state-owned arms maker (now defunct)

TheDisturbed1
July 24, 2007, 06:47 AM
I have a C F on one of them (barely visible)

Altmaerker
July 24, 2007, 07:16 AM
max will be right,

the solvent containers are inscribed in german and french and the swiss is bilingual french/ german. (Automatenfett = automat grease) This brings the SIG 510/ Stgw. 57 in game, because, it is the last assault rifle before the SIG 550. Now compare the kits in this picture with your ones!

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/08/4509008/6265666339646636.jpg
Source: http://world.guns.ru/assault/as45-e.htm

Do they match?

TheDisturbed1
July 24, 2007, 06:03 PM
yep. the one in that picture matches 3 that i have... the other 2 are more of a brown color almost no difference in package tho

TEDDY
July 24, 2007, 07:50 PM
I have couple that were swedish that have the brass ends.number one is patch jag.number 2 is muzzle guide?whose these are I dont know.but they dont seem to be german or russian.

oneshooter
July 24, 2007, 09:37 PM
I bought one of those at a gunshow 4-5yrs ago. Been looking but haven't found another since! If you dont want one , or more, of them please PM me!

They are Swiss, the rod parts all have brass ferrols on them to protect the bore. Caliber is 30. #2 is a broken case wxtractor, the other is a jag that you wrap the patch around. If you open the tubes they contain a thick black grease, and there is a brush attached to the top to apply it with.

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

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