Input welcome (posters)


Oleg Volk
July 25, 2007, 02:01 PM

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July 25, 2007, 02:09 PM
I like them. I think the first one would be better if you used the shot of the plainclothes guy with the Saiga. The gun he's holding looks a little too "sporting" so fence sitters might think "well of course he can have his hunting rifle". An EBR may make them think about it a little longer.

You could also do one with a LEO and a plain clothes guy/gal with something along the lines of "Guess who has more firearms training".

July 25, 2007, 02:30 PM
Actually there are some LEO's over at the Saiga forum, one IIRC is an armorer for his force, "madmillo" is his handle... So in uniform with the Saiga and plainclothes would be appropriate.

July 25, 2007, 02:36 PM
I agree, this is the time for the EBR, or something similar.

July 25, 2007, 03:26 PM
18 year old in Military Uniform holding M-16.

40 Year old wearing a suite and holding AR-15 with two ATF agents holding their hands out like they want something.

Caption: When I was 18 you handed me one of these and said, we trust you to stand up and defend our nation, now go protect us.

Now I'm forty and I can't be trusted anymore?

July 25, 2007, 03:46 PM
Not to nitpick, but I thought the phrase was "Clothes don't make the man".

Otherwise, I'm with the "Give him an EBR" Crowd, for the same reasons.

El Tejon
July 25, 2007, 03:57 PM
Perhaps "disallow" instead of "bedgrudge"?

"to protect his family" on the end. "To protect his" seems to leave the native English speaker hanging. His . . . his what???

Oleg Volk
July 25, 2007, 04:13 PM
I tweaked it.

The trouble with explaining non-trivial concepts to non-gunnies is that brevity can turn into enigma and lose the message I try to communicate.

July 25, 2007, 04:15 PM
I like all three

July 25, 2007, 04:16 PM
I agree - change "begrudge." I think most people will say, "What's that word? No idea. Whatever," and miss the meaning.

July 25, 2007, 04:18 PM
I know the idea of this was to have the same guy in both poses.. how bout adding a third guy holding a rifle. Maybe George Washington or Abe Lincoln or any recognizable revolutionary.

Oleg Volk
July 25, 2007, 04:20 PM
This is a decent forum. Let's not bring L*****n into it.

July 25, 2007, 04:21 PM

July 25, 2007, 04:33 PM
Oleg - I like all three, but I like the *new* one at the top the best.

Awesome work, as always.

July 26, 2007, 08:21 AM
I like the second one, however, it's been my experience that the Virginia State Police are pretty tight-a**ed about publicity.

July 26, 2007, 10:46 AM
The new one is perfect, sir.

July 26, 2007, 12:01 PM
I like the one Scorpiousdeus came up with. Very visual. Nice work on the posters, Oleg.

July 26, 2007, 12:25 PM
Top one is cool Oleg... I'll share a link at the Saiga forum...

July 26, 2007, 12:54 PM
"This is a decent forum. Let's not bring L*****n into it."

NICE!:D I like the caption on the 2nd one bes,t but prefer the 1st pic.

July 26, 2007, 12:57 PM
Out of curiosity, how are these going to be used? I think I'd do you better service with a critique after knowing that.

Oleg Volk
July 26, 2007, 01:00 PM
For use in web debates.

July 26, 2007, 01:34 PM
Mind if I mess with one?

Dysfunctional Individual
July 26, 2007, 01:46 PM
I'd redirect the muzzle slightly to avoid pointing at the other guy's foot (even if it's the same guy).

July 26, 2007, 01:46 PM
I like the first one the best. It works on a number of levels. And yes, the phrase is "clothes don't make the man", not "a man".

The third one doesn't do much for me, but maybe that's because the message is so different from the first two, it just didn't click for me.

Good work, as usual!


Oleg Volk
July 26, 2007, 01:47 PM
Alternate versions are welcome.

July 26, 2007, 02:27 PM
Here's a thought. Sorry for the crappy quality, I was messin in a hurry.

July 26, 2007, 02:32 PM
That Saiga mag is HUGE!

July 26, 2007, 03:20 PM
I like it, ALL OF THEM. Like the newest version the best.

July 26, 2007, 03:25 PM
I like that version, zeroskils.

Oleg, the thing I keep tripping over on the third poster is that the "guns don't make the man" lead doesn't easily segue into what follows regarding EBR's. (Obviously not, as I had to edit this to make sense....LOL) Now, if you have the trooper in his uniform holding the EBR, and him in his civvies, holding the EBR, and THEN make the link about modern rifles...?

Maybe with a tag line like: "In or out of uniform, his modern rifle is no threat" or something like that. (That's sort of lame, but hopefully you get what I'm trying to say.) Sopmehow, just the two different rifles aren't strong enough a statement. Just my overinflated $.02.


July 26, 2007, 03:33 PM
"The clothes don't make the man" one

July 26, 2007, 10:39 PM
Oh, goodie. I love these threads. Nice posters, I think I'll send them to a couple of LEOs I know (see if they get it). A LEO friend of mine (notice the difference in terminology) will likely get a chuckle out of these.

July 26, 2007, 10:56 PM
Oleg! I think that middle one (uniform doesn't...) is one of my all-time favorites. Very nice.

July 26, 2007, 11:16 PM
I like the second one. It is straight and to the point.

The first makes people think a cop at work and cop at home with a gun is no problem.

Third one is good but does not hit like the second IMHO.

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