Student threatened 'murderous rampage,' police say


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Matt King
July 25, 2007, 08:45 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/25/student.arrested.ap/index.html

EDWARDSVILLE, Illinois (AP) -- A university student was arrested after authorities say he threatened a "murderous rampage" similar to the Virginia Tech shootings that left 32 people and a student gunman dead, authorities said.

Olutosin Oduwole allegedly threatened to carry out a 'murderous rampage' at an Illinois campus.

A gun dealer had alerted federal authorities about the man, saying he had seemed overly anxious to get a shipment of semiautomatic weapons, according to an affidavit filed in court by a police detective.

Olutosin Oduwole, who was taking summer classes at Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville, was charged Tuesday with attempting to make a terrorist threat, a felony. He remained jailed Wednesday in lieu of $1 million bail.

According to the affidavit, the 22-year-old wrote a note demanding that money be deposited to a PayPal account, threatening that "if this account doesn't reach $50,000 in the next 7 days then a murderous rampage similar to the VT shooting will occur at another highly populated university. THIS IS NOT A JOKE!"

The note had suggested the shooting would target a "prestigious" university, but that word was crossed out. There was no direct mention of Southern Illinois University.

John Cernkovich, Oduwole's attorney on unrelated theft and fraud charges filed last week, described Oduwole as a musician who writes rap lyrics and said the threatening note was on a sheet of paper that included rap words.

Authorities found the note Friday in Oduwole's car on campus, said university spokesman Greg Conroy. Police also said they found a loaded gun in Oduwole's dorm room.

The detective said in the affidavit that Oduwole, of Maplewood, New Jersey, had recently bought three semiautomatic guns online but had not yet received them, and also had ordered a weapon similar to an Uzi submachine gun.

A gun dealer alerted the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives because Oduwole "appeared very anxious to get these firearms and seemed very impatient," the affidavit said.

According to a search warrant, police also seized a picture of Oduwole flashing gang signs, a camcorder and U.S. and Nigerian passports. The court documents did not list the name on those passports.

Oduwole was charged July 19 with theft and fraud for selling an M-16 rifle online but failing to ship the weapon to the buyer, prosecutors said.

Cernkovich said Wednesday his client is a U.S. citizen and described him as "pretty normal."

"I didn't think he was an irrational person," the lawyer said.

"I'm not a psychologist or psychiatrist, but I understand that in this environment -- post-September 11 -- authorities don't take any chances," Cernkovich said. "Unfortunately, my client now is in custody because of that."

The Madison County state's attorney did not immediate respond to a message seeking comment.

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Phaetos
July 25, 2007, 10:10 PM
Oduwole was charged July 19 with theft and fraud for selling an M-16 rifle online but failing to ship the weapon to the buyer, prosecutors said.

Really? Selling a military rifle online? :barf:

budney
July 25, 2007, 10:18 PM
"I didn't think he was an irrational person," [his] lawyer said.

"I'm not a psychologist or psychiatrist, but I understand that in this environment -- post-September 11 -- authorities don't take any chances," Cernkovich said. "Unfortunately, my client now is in custody because of that."

And that, boys and girls, is why you don't want a public defender. "I'm not expert or anything, but my client seems kinda mostly normal to me." Yeesh.

--Len.

igpoobah
July 25, 2007, 10:18 PM
and also had ordered a weapon similar to an Uzi submachine gun.

Whatever.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Andrewsky
July 25, 2007, 10:26 PM
Are you guys kidding?

Forget the errors about firearms for a minute.

It looks like a VA Tech style shooting has been prevented.

MinnMooney
July 25, 2007, 10:30 PM
I agree with the last poster's comment on this quote.... "Whatever" EXCEPT that it's a lot more seerious than something that only rates a "Whatever".

The media is again doing their thing by spectacularizing something before they have all (or even most) of the facts.

What the hell is "a weapon similar to an Uzi submachine gun."?!? Is it something that kinda-sorta looks like an Uzi? WHO said that it is "similar"? Does the newspaper reporter even know what an Uzi looks like?

fish wrapping paper, that's all the newspapers are good for.

igpoobah
July 25, 2007, 10:30 PM
True enough; I gathered that as well, and it's a good thing.

The raping of firearm terminology is pretty bad in this one.

budney
July 25, 2007, 10:30 PM
It looks like a VA Tech style shooting has been prevented.

If the report is accurate, it would seem so--they make Oduwole sound like a grade-A nutjob.

All they mentioned was a "loaded gun in his car," however, so I would hesitate to start estimating body counts based on the news article. Having arrested the nutjob, it's in the best interests of those concerned to inflate the hypothetical body count--after all, it's much cooler to save several dozen lives than one or two. The report only suggests 5-16 rounds of ammunition total, depending on the "loaded gun" in question.

--Len.

MinnMooney
July 25, 2007, 10:31 PM
I agree with igpoobah's comment on this quote.... "Whatever" EXCEPT that it's a lot more serious than something that only rates a "Whatever".

The media is again doing their thing by spectacularizing something before they have all (or even most) of the facts.

What the hell is "a weapon similar to an Uzi submachine gun."?!? Is it something that kinda-sorta looks like an Uzi? WHO said that it is "similar"? Does the newspaper reporter even know what an Uzi looks like?

Fish wrapping paper, that's all the newspapers are good for.

Andrewsky
July 25, 2007, 10:38 PM
The guy probably had a 16" semi-auto Uzi carbine. If I was explaining
what that gun was to someone who doesn't know much about guns I might say it's "similar to an Uzi submachine gun." That would be totally reasonable.

Get real. This guy sounds like a serious threat.

Juna
July 25, 2007, 10:39 PM
Oduwole was charged July 19 with theft and fraud for selling an M-16 rifle online but failing to ship the weapon to the buyer, prosecutors said.

Typical CNN misinformation. I sent them negative feedback and asked them to retract and correct their errors. We'll see if they do it, but I doubt it, especially given their known rabid anti-gun stance.

Kali Endgame
July 26, 2007, 12:04 AM
Olutosin Oduwole, who was taking summer classes at Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville, was charged Tuesday with attempting to make a terrorist threat, a felony.

*giggles*

This guy can't even threaten properly. How is supposed to carry out his plan?

Terrorist jokes are a felony, now?<-----I'm being serious.

Phaetos
July 26, 2007, 01:52 AM
Actually, yes it is. Pointing your finger at someone and saying BANG, is now the same thing as being a terrorist. It is a form of "psychological terrorism", I read/heard that somewhere. Anyway, it's much bad joojoo now to even kid around about stuff. I saw a news story where a 2nd grader got expelled for pointing his finger like a gun, he was "terrorizing the other children". :barf::barf:

Jorg Nysgerrig
July 26, 2007, 02:01 AM
Typical CNN misinformation. I sent them negative feedback and asked them to retract and correct their errors. We'll see if they do it, but I doubt it, especially given their known rabid anti-gun stance.

Exactly what error do you want them to retract? Do you have evidence that he didn't scam a guy by "selling" a Colt M-16 online? That information is not from cnn.com, it's from the AP. If you look at some of the other articles about this, it says he posted an auction for a rifle he didn't have using pictures and information from a firearms site. People do actually sell Colt M-16 rifles online, just like they sell all kinds of other guns. If you're going to scam someone, you might as well bait the hook with something tempting.

Eightball
July 26, 2007, 02:15 AM
if this account doesn't reach $50,000 in the next 7 days then a murderous rampage similar to the VT shooting will occur at another highly populated university. THIS IS NOT A JOKE!John Cernkovich, Oduwole's attorney on unrelated theft and fraud charges filed last week, described Oduwole as a musician who writes rap lyrics and said the threatening note was on a sheet of paper that included rap words.Somehow, that doesn't sound like rap lyrics, no matter how you misconstrue it. I mean, sure, it doesn't exactly have to rhyme or follow iambic pentameter, but seriously........what a lame defense.

Though, the "attempting to make a threat"=terrorism=scares the living daylights out of me. Attempting to threaten to do something=felony? Where's the civil rights in that one?

Mannix
July 26, 2007, 02:42 AM
How I see it:

He never actually issued the threat, and last I checked you could write anything you want, no matter how threatening, so long as it is not actually used in a threatening manner.

Buying guns, even evil looking semiautomatic ones, is legal(in most states, and IL hasn't enacted an AWB yet).

Having a loaded gun in your residence is legal. Though it being a dorm may make it illegal.

I think the authorities may have jumped the gun on this one, they should probably have waited until he issued the threat, then moved. I see this guy getting off if he plays his cards right, not that I'm looking forward to it(I HATE SCAMMERS).

Apple a Day
July 26, 2007, 07:59 AM
I am terrible afraid that this coming year there will be a slough of Cho/Ya. Tech copycats just like there were (and still are) Columbine copycats. This isn't the first and I doubt it will be the last. Everybody be safe.

Strings
July 26, 2007, 09:53 AM
Ok... dude was impatient to get in guns he had ordered. ATF was called, they checked him out, found a theoretical terrorist threat scrawled in one of his notebooks, and they're trumpeting "we've stopped a terrorist!!!!1one1"... that about the size of it?

I've gotten impatient about receiving a firearm before. I possess subversive literature. And I might suggest shooting someone when they cross certain lines. Should i maybe watch out for ATF and Homeland Security now?

Leatherneck
July 26, 2007, 10:45 AM
He just adapted the nigerian scam to current conditions. Deport him.

TC

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