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Ithaca37
July 28, 2007, 12:23 PM
Could some of you guys come post a comment over at this blog http://mainehuntingtoday.com/bbb/?p=2382 to help deal with some people who are advocating a ban on ARs, AKs, etc. for hunting. If you would just post a comment to counter the Jim Zumbo argument, so that these people don't have free reign over the hunting world. I am the only one who has commented refuting the zumbo position.

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Justin
July 28, 2007, 01:40 PM
I wouldn't call them Zumbos, for the simple fact that Jim's on our side now.

More info here. (http://booksbikesboomsticks.blogspot.com/2007/07/boomsticks-i-love-happy-ending.html)

Titan6
July 28, 2007, 02:18 PM
No I won't. Simply because they have to come to that realization on their own. Stubborn old men won't change simply because you present a logical argument. If it is an appearance issue nothing will change their perceptions. If it is an irrational fear issue only hands on familiarization will change their hearts. If it is ignorance and only plain ignorance and not willfull ignorance education might work but there would be a lot of stubborness to overcome.

Vern Humphrey
July 28, 2007, 03:07 PM
Stubborn old men won't change simply because you present a logical argument

I resent that!!:D

MICHAEL T
July 28, 2007, 05:39 PM
Flintlocks rule keep them newfangle guns out of the woods . A old man:D

230RN
July 28, 2007, 06:02 PM
Dang that riflin' anyhow. Spins the dang ball. Whoever heard of a ball spinnin' anyhow. Should fly straight an' true, not spinnin' to beat all heck. (I guess there are wimmin on this board, or I'd use my General Store Sittin' Around The Pickle Barrel lingo.)

Vern Humphrey
July 28, 2007, 06:28 PM
Flintlocks rule keep them newfangle guns out of the woods
Dang that riflin' anyhow. Spins the dang ball

Hmph! Flintlocks! Balls!

What's wrong with a big rock? That's what a real hunter uses!

Nanook
July 28, 2007, 10:57 PM
Rocks? Why, if you can't take a grizzly bear with a sharp stick you can't call yourself a man!

:D

wilson
July 29, 2007, 12:31 AM
sharp stick , you use your bear hands:neener:

wilson
July 29, 2007, 12:33 AM
sharp stick , you use your (bear) hands:neener:

Tamara
July 29, 2007, 01:25 AM
Opposable thumbs are for wusses. My next grizzly will fall to my teeth!

Stevie-Ray
July 29, 2007, 01:29 AM
I dun kilt me a bar when I was only 3.

kingpin008
July 29, 2007, 01:34 AM
Guns? Sticks? Rocks? Teeth?

Pfft!

Back in m' boyhood, all we needed was a stern glance.


:neener::D:neener:

Brass Fetcher
July 29, 2007, 01:39 AM
To the OP - save your effort. It's a good effort, but a failed one in my experience. People don't change their opinions outside of their own volition.

Having said that, I usually get dressed up in my Tarzan suit (don't ask), and wait on a tree limb for an unsuspecting deer to come strolling under. Then I jump down and cut its throat with my Glock field knife. :D

mnrivrat
July 29, 2007, 01:49 AM
Stubborn old men won't change simply because you present a logical argument

I resemble that !

Then I jump down and cut its throat with my Glock field knife.

Here we go again ! New fangled assualt knife - no place in the hunting field for that !

OK - OP , I will go look to see what's up over there .

shooter503
July 29, 2007, 01:58 AM
I made my own knife out of an old wagon spring.

Mr White
July 29, 2007, 10:49 AM
nevermind.

Im283
July 29, 2007, 11:26 AM
I cannot remember the name of Zumbo's TV show, but it is back on the air.

A month ago or so I watched Uncle Ted's show and Zumbo's came on right after. In the Zumbo show he opened in regard to his previous statements about black rifles. He continued on in a very contrite manner explaining his ignorance and his new found education on them. In his show which almost entirely dealt with his educational process of the black rifle he took a shooting class and was accompanied by Nugent. Zumbo is now on the side of the black rifle.

I also realize many members here on THR never ever change their opinion on things, and once an anti (especially if it is someone famous) then always and anti. But I say give the man a break, he learned and changed his ways.

Agent 006 &7/8
July 29, 2007, 11:56 AM
Back in m' boyhood, all we needed was a stern glance.

You must know my mother!

pacodelahoya
July 29, 2007, 12:00 PM
Zumbo is now on the side of the black rifle.

Zumbo didn't like being fired.

Threeband
July 29, 2007, 03:57 PM
Guns? Sticks? Rocks? Teeth?

Pfft!

Back in m' boyhood, all we needed was a stern glance.



I was gonna advocate Matchlocks, but you guys left me in the dust.

Seriously, I once met a below-average-I.Q.- laboror who killed a deer with a four foot level.

People who witnessed it assured me that this guy spotted a deer near a construction site, and grabbed a four foot mahogany level and just TOOK OFF after that deer. Apparently the deer was so amazed it failed to make it over a barbed-wire fence before this lunatic caught up to it, and in a frenzy, beat it to death.

cane
July 30, 2007, 11:25 AM
I didn't see his show, who were the sponsers?

Sergeant Sabre
July 30, 2007, 03:57 PM
I don't understand the "No 'assault weapons' in the woods" crowd.

These rifles, the AR-type in particular...

...are very light-weight

...have superior ergonmics

...shoulder very naturally

...have low-recoil

...are designed to minimize muzzle jump (easy follow-up shot, if ya need it)

...are available chambered for a myriad of "sporting" cartridges

...are superbly accurate


What's not to like?????

CZ.22
July 30, 2007, 04:34 PM
Y'all are all wusses. Bullets? Teeth? Glances? I kill bear with my thoughts.

Im283
July 30, 2007, 04:57 PM
I didn't see his show, who were the sponsers?

thats funny right there, like I pay any attention to commercials, LOL

I guess the same ones on the other show on Outdoor Channel on Tuesday nights.

Brad Johnson
July 30, 2007, 06:26 PM
Glances? Thoughts?

Girly-men, all...

My mere presence is enough to end the life-process of any nearby bruin.

Brad

Vern Humphrey
July 30, 2007, 06:30 PM
There are thousands of species of powerful, carnivorous critters which vanished from the earth even before I was born, through fear of me, and thousands more which never came into existance.

Brad Johnson
July 30, 2007, 06:34 PM
There are thousands of species of powerful, carnivorous critters which vanished from the earth even before I was born, through fear of me, and thousands more which never came into existance.

Switch deoderants and see if that helps.

Brad

Vern Humphrey
July 30, 2007, 06:35 PM
My wife and I hunt like lions -- I stand upwind of the critters, and she gets 'em as they run past her.

jaholder1971
July 31, 2007, 10:10 PM
Zumbo "saw the light" only because his lost sight of a paycheck.

I know a number of Elmer Fudds who would gladly check out their registered firearm at the police station and bring it back every night if it came to that. As long as they can continue their part of their sport everyone else's has no purpose.

benEzra
July 31, 2007, 10:49 PM
I cannot remember the name of Zumbo's TV show, but it is back on the air.

A month ago or so I watched Uncle Ted's show and Zumbo's came on right after. In the Zumbo show he opened in regard to his previous statements about black rifles. He continued on in a very contrite manner explaining his ignorance and his new found education on them. In his show which almost entirely dealt with his educational process of the black rifle he took a shooting class and was accompanied by Nugent. Zumbo is now on the side of the black rifle.

I also realize many members here on THR never ever change their opinion on things, and once an anti (especially if it is someone famous) then always and anti. But I say give the man a break, he learned and changed his ways.
Good.

Zumbo has a good article in this month's S.W.A.T., in which he took a carbine class with an AR.

Some people are cynical about him, but I think he has honestly done a 180. His statements were made out of ignorance, not malice, and he has admitted that ignorance and done his darndest to rectify it. I, for one, am glad to see him coming back and speaking out for all law-abiding shooters, not just hunters.

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