Taurus
Big Daddy K
July 29, 2007, 11:07 AM
Was at the Big Town Gun Show yesterday checking things out.
I discovered when handeling various revolvers, the Taurus felt the best. Better that Ruger and Smith. I have never compared before with all of them in front of me.
I loved the Tracker in various calibers, The Raging Bull, the little snubbies etc. All for much less than the Rugers and Smiths etc.
I really liked the Tracker 44 mag and the 22.:D
Oh yea held the Judge. It feels pretty good as well. wish I could afford them all.
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MCgunner
July 29, 2007, 11:31 AM
My M66s are quite light in felt recoil and point well, not better than my M19 did, but that's pretty danged good. It's a typical K frame feel to me. Grip means a lot, of course, and I really like Hogue grips on 'em, Pachmayr Grippers ain't bad either. I picked up an AWESOME quality M66 nickel late model with newer transfer bar lockwork for $197 at a gun show. This thing is like new and shoots tight little 1" groups at 25 yards off bags with .38 wadcutter or 140 Speer JHP magnums, as good as it gets. I'm real happy with it, smooth action, not a complaint.
I've heard about varying quality control on these guns, never seen it, but heard about it. I only have three Taurus revolvers, so that's a small subset, but mine are excellent. I figure, pick the gun up, check it for gap, end shake, timing, all the check out stuff for a revolver, and how can you go wrong? Used Taurus revolvers (don't know much about the autos) are BARGAINS around here. Used Smiths, K frames in particular (the ones I like best) are out of sight. I can buy a new Ruger for what a wore out 19 goes for now days, makes me wish I'd have hung on to mine.
Anyway, I've been wanting a tracker for a long time, but I like my 4" 66 so much, I don't think I'll worry too much about it, LOL. I mean, what's a few ounces? I don't carry the gun as a CCW, but use it as an outdoor revolver. It's so accurate with wadcutters, I could squirrel hunt with the thing. The only .22 handgun I own that can match it is my Contender barrel with 2x scope. Add to that its accuracy and power with 158 grain SWCs, well, that's the versatility of a .357 four outdoor use, regardless of the brand of platform.
44and45
July 29, 2007, 12:20 PM
.45 Colt Tracker wearing Hogue grips, only a five shot on an L-frame size, but a big thumper when needed.
But its only presently available in .357, .41 magnum, .44 magnum.
Jim
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e321/44and45/P9030004Trackerrearshot.jpg
baz
July 29, 2007, 02:52 PM
I've had my 605 for a while now. It is my CCW. I got a 6" Tracker in 357 recently. Fun gun. Shot some lightly loaded 125 grain 38 spl in it, and it just goes "pop." Hardly any recoil. Full load 357's in it go "boom" but with less recoil, or felt recoil, than I expected.
Haywood
July 30, 2007, 08:09 PM
905, 627, 617, 608, 605. Gave my 85 to little Sister. I like Taurus Revolvers.
mnrivrat
July 31, 2007, 02:50 AM
What ! No Taurus bashing yet ! I have three Taurus revolvers including a .44 mag Tracker, and a little 13oz Titanium snubie . I have no complaints.
weregunner
July 31, 2007, 04:26 AM
Yep. Have the older Taurus model 65,66,85CH,and a 94.
The first three are in the 20 year brackets as for age. All are tight lock up,no cylinder end shake,well timed, and still going strong.
Model 65 came in nickel and has the 2.5 in barrel.
The model 94 is in blue and has the 5 inch barrel. Slicked up the trigger pull with snap cap and dryfiring with said caps over 500 times for practice and smoothing out the trigger pull. Worked well.
5 in. barrels make a nice split the difference between the 4 and 6 in. .22lrf revolvers. Portability is good and the extra 1 in. gives a little velocity boost.
85CH has the hammer bobbed and flush with the frame. It is DAO. Takes care of "the gun was cocked before firing" and was a hair trigger situation argument used by unscrupulous lawyers for negligence lawsuits or prosecution.:D
MIkeMSM
July 31, 2007, 10:59 AM
G'day
I have a Taurus 608 with a bit over 40,000 rounds through it (I shoot IPSC / ICORE) I will be using it for the Australian ICORE nationals In September.
It has had a trigger job and a spring kit
I have just bought another 10,000 projectiles to suit it what more can I say
Mike
parisite
July 31, 2007, 11:34 AM
I've got two 455's, 6" & 2" and a 905. Couldn't be happier with them.:)
MCgunner
July 31, 2007, 02:11 PM
The basher just started his own thread, it seems.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=292723
I have not had a problem. I'm not sure where these stories come from or why.
YosemiteSam357
July 31, 2007, 05:38 PM
669 6" .357 mag, 13+ years and going strong. One of the nicest triggers I have (of "quite a few"...)
44SS4 4" .44 mag, 2+ years, no issues, tightest lockup of any DA revolver I own.
M94 4" .22, sold within a few months. Never could get it to feel clean and crisp, nor keep the sights tight. Gave up.
I didn't give up on the brand, though. Bought the .44 after the .22 had come and gone. Would consider another. Don't like their semi-autos, but that's just me.
-- Sam
Battlespace
July 31, 2007, 06:14 PM
I have had a PT99AF, I know it is a semi-, for almost 8 years and not a problem. I am not a frequent shooter, probably less than 1500 rounds in that length of time, but I can count on one hand the number of problems.
I just bought a 605B2 for CC. I put a couple of hundred rounds of both .38 and .357 through it with not a problem. Off hand I had no problems with tight groups out to 25 yards.
My oldest daughter carries a 94SS with a four inch barrel. Again, not a problem with many hundreds of .22 going through it. Her husband is a Glock fan, but it seems like when we go shooting he always ends up with one of the Taurus in his hand and his Glock sits in the pickup.
JackCrow
July 31, 2007, 06:32 PM
605 owner here, great gun!
I will own other Taurus in the future, they've always worked well for me.
44and45
July 31, 2007, 06:45 PM
I Noticed the Taurus basher got his hate biais thread locked down. :barf::cuss:
Good, another one bites the dust. :D
Long live the Taurus, may they soon make a .44 special Tracker. :)
Jim
orionengnr
July 31, 2007, 09:24 PM
The basher just started his own thread, it seems.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=292723
I Noticed the Taurus basher got his hate biais thread locked down.
Good, another one bites the dust.
I'm sorry, but where is he bashing?
Sounds pretty much like a factual account to me.
Are you saying that he is lying?
It was closed as a duplicate, not due to any lack of veracity or bashing...
Please keep it real, folks. :rolleyes:
jh9x18ky
July 31, 2007, 09:43 PM
I cant bash Taurus either, have owned several, currently using a 905ss for a carry cun.
44and45
July 31, 2007, 10:43 PM
Well, in keeping it real...the thread got the padlock for some reason. (Where is the original thread posting that's not padlocked)
It was an outrageous slam dunk of disgruntled biais, stands to reason that's why it got locked down.
The poster's slant is not shared by all of us who have had some good luck with Taurus firearms and their warranty program.
The undeniable facts as far as Taurus is concerned not all are slamming the product...I certainly like mine. But guess that's really going to bother someone who don't like them.
Jim
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e321/44and45/P9030005goodonecropped591X.jpg
YosemiteSam357
August 1, 2007, 01:34 PM
It was an outrageous slam dunk of disgruntled biais, stands to reason that's why it got locked down.
The poster's slant is not shared by all of us who have had some good luck with Taurus firearms and their warranty program.No, it was a factual recounting of a dealer's dealings with the company. It wasn't positive for Taurus, but it was mild by comparison to the way many others carpet-bomb manufacturers who they personally dislike. The only reason it was locked is that it was a duplicate. (The original is in "General Discussion", fwiw.) The fact that the OP saw fit to post it multiple forums is a bit suspect, but on the other hand, he was a bit p.o.'ed. I would have been too, in his shoes.
No company is perfect, and they all produce lemons on occasion. If you believe Taurus is different you're kidding yourself.
And if you'll notice, I'm a Taurus supporter. But I'm not a blind supporter of anything (or one).
-- Sam
Kaylee
August 1, 2007, 01:53 PM
The only reason it was locked is that it was a duplicate.
Yup (says the one who locked it).
-K
MCgunner
August 1, 2007, 02:01 PM
Does anyone check out a gun before they buy one? I've passed on Smiths, a Ruger, others that weren't up to snuff for what they were selling for. I mostly buy used stuff, can't be too careful. If the revolver is tight, times perfect, aligns its cylinders, and I want it and the price is good, well....
Unfortunately, K frame Smiths seem to ALL miss that last one, price is right. Taurus, the revolvers at least, are well priced around here used or new. I took a chance on one, but the price was such and I wanted a 3" gun bad enough I took it. It was a little out of time and the crane had a lot of slop. BUT, I found the problem, didn't even require a gunsmith, was a simple fix, and now I've got an excellent medium frame 3" carry I paid $180 for and it shoots accurately and 100 percent. Timing is now perfect and there is very little play. I got off light on that one, coulda been worse. If it'd been something I couldn't handle, I'd have tried out that Taurus service, or lack there of. :D
Haywood
August 1, 2007, 02:54 PM
I stated this someplace before. I worked in 3 Gunshops part time for 7 or 8 years. I have seen good and bad from Ravan to Razzini. Just like anything you buy. Some days you get the Elevator, some days you get the Shaft.
44and45
August 1, 2007, 02:55 PM
Well, we finally got that missing original thread located in another forum section...thanks for clearing that up. And it is indeed suspect on double posting trying to raise hell against Taurus.
I also know that Taurus isn't infallible, then neither is any other major gun manufactuer, and if you preach they are then you are certainly biais.
Look for the good you get out of a product, and if you can't find it, leave it be.
Taurus isn't the only revolver I own, I like S&W and Colt as well...if they are the older models. Don't care for the new stuff they make today as they are not worth the money they are asking for.
The Taurus Tracker in .45 Colt is no longer in production. But neither is this Colt .44 magnum Anaconda...but I still value them both highly.
Thinking for one's self is the best course to pursue, never jump on another man's wagon if its hauling ferdlizer. :scrutiny:
Jim
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e321/44and45/P8100011AnacondaBeltholstercropped7.jpg
Ala Dan
August 1, 2007, 05:01 PM
Watch out for QC at Taurus; as it seems to vary from model too model~! :eek:
tinygnat219
October 2, 2007, 10:41 PM
Ditto.
I am thinking of divesting myself of all Tauri.
44and45
October 2, 2007, 11:15 PM
Heh heh, I just invested in another Tauri, one made in the 1990's. :D
In one of my favorite calibers...44 special, my other fave is .45 Colt, followed by its minions: .45 acp, .45 Auto Rim.
Jim
Model 441 in .44 spl.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e321/44and45/P1260031Taurusm-441rightside661X-1.jpg
MCgunner
October 3, 2007, 09:14 AM
Nice find! I love shopping Taurus revolvers at gun shows, excellent deals to be made. Here's my best find so far, the nickel 4" on top, $197. The blued 3" 66 on the bottom was $180 on a table full of $300 model 10s and $400 and up M19s. I talked him down from 200 because it wasn't timed well and had crane play. When I got it home, I found someone had re-assembled it wrong and got the wrong screw in the forward side plate hole. When properly assembled, it times perfectly and the play is gone. :D Both revolvers are fantastically accurate, the 4" a little better. The 4" has a really slick action/DA and SA. It's the newer transfer bar action. The older gun, the blued 3", isn't quite as slick, but still not bad. It has the hammer block older action. In my experience, Taurus has gotten better and better which seems to be the antithesis of Smith and Wesson. Taurus really improved with the new transfer bar action IMHO.
http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=50111&d=1167408245
Landlocked Pirate
October 3, 2007, 09:16 AM
My Taurus model 650 CIA .357 feels better in my hand and has the best trigger than my son's S&W 640, my other son's Ruger SP-101, or my wife's S&W 642.
weregunner
October 3, 2007, 09:19 AM
How soon people forget. We've been through this a dozen times or more just in the last month at these boards.Figures the old trash would be trotted out.
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=945.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=1098.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=1423.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=1243.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums.index.php?topic=1960.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=1565.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=2661.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=1680.0
There are good reasons to go with Taurus. That's what the links area about.
Rossi makes the 971 and Taurus has the 65,66 and Tracker series for consideration.
Since what I was going to say is somewhere in the links I will let them do the"talking".
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http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250771
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250992
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248950
While these links are not from here the old arguments that Taurus is garbage have been tried,convicted and laid to rest for the most part. As others have said, all brands,makes and models have their bad moments. There are even new models put out by "top brand makers" that are having some teething troubles yet they are not wholesale condemned.
The gun forums are full of those having 'troubles' with their pet guns. Some serious, some not. Are we to take it that these are all garbage? Could go to the other threads and post this as so because'evidence' here and at other gun forums support that assertion. What a crock.
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Posts: 400 There are plenty of police departments that might find that one interesting. They have documented their findings as to their use of the Rugers. This includes the P89,P95(9mm.) and P90 (.45ACP).
Accuracy has been at or almost tack driving ability. For combat use that is all that is needed.
Accuracy for each pistol on a case by case basis with various loads can be tried until the combo that delivers acceptable accuracy and is a JHP come about.
That's how the criterea are based on. There are some generalizations that can be made about accuracy for a given brand but those are pretty broad as things stand.
At both the Ruger forums the owners talk about good accuracy, good solid performance, and the dureability of their pistols. This is not just a bias.
There are many professional shooting trainers and gun writers who state this as well as fact. Not hype.
One gun problem does not make a condemnation of a whole line. There are those who come in here and do just that or scoff at other's choices. They not need come in here to any thread if they do not like that particular arm. Yet they chose to do so.
If there is a flagrant solid proof that a brand is lousy then they would not be bought and the company goes out of business or the company drops the line completely.
Gun Tests lately has given the SIG GSR a 'conditional buy only' rating and said others should pass totally on used SIG 225s and why. SIG Mosquito got a "conditional buy" rating as well for poor DA and SA trigger pulls.All the reasons why are documented in their periodical. Guess I won't be buying any SIGs as they all are crap ,if I follow the logic.. or rather lack of, by the those who dump on any brand.
No brand of gun has the "upper hand" over all others in every department. That is subjective. Otherwise the gun buying public would foresake all other brands if that were totally true.
Not saying that there aren't occasional problems. All brands have and do. They're mechanical contrivances for Pete's sake.
There is a precedant for the P95 being a good gun.
What others are happy with,good for them. Glad what they have works for them.
I probably won't ever buy a SIG. Don't fit me and never will. Those who have them,great. Glad you like them.
Ruger P95 and P97 just barely fit.
Case by case basis of what works for each individual.
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This is taken from a Ruger thread, but this applies here also.
MCgunner
October 3, 2007, 09:33 AM
It's an old thread that got reborn.
weregunner
October 3, 2007, 09:40 AM
Sometimes Lazerus has to come back from the dead.:)
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