[hkmp5g17]

My friend offered me a free Remington 1100 today :D


The good- receiver looks good- from the outside. And the price is pretty good too!

The bad-
1- The wood is gone, 5% finish remains.

Barrel is bent-beam fell during fire.

Trigger guard is melted.

There's a little rust on everything.

Can't get the bolt to retract.

Not sure I'll be able to disassemble (at least in the conventional way)

If I take it I'll have to get it apart and take to a gunsmith to inspect the receiver.

I'll need all the furniture, barrel, springs, trigger- and maybe other parts.

Will have to clean up the receiver and refinish with duracoat.

If all goes well I'm thinking of turning it into a riot gun.

Anyone have any personal experience with this? Any tips?

I'll try to get pics tomorrow/Friday.

Mahalo-Anthony

[Oldnamvet]

I would be very cautious about that 1100. The amount of heat it has seen could have warped/destroyed the receiver and innards.:scrutiny:

[mapwd]

the bolt will probably need to be replaced also, there is a plastic bushing around the firing pin in the rear of the bolt. I am sure that is melted as well. You could buy a used one in awesome condition for what you are gonna spend restoring this one. New barrels at Gander Mountain runs $299.00 here in WI.

[mapwd]

If you have a smith check it out and the receiver checks out, it would be fun to bring one back from the dead though. Pricey though

[Ford Prefect]

The fire has ruined the heat treatment/hardening of the reciever.

[Ford Prefect]

Just had a thought.

Clean it up, spray paint it black and turn it into one of those inner city gun buy back programs.

You might get $100-$200 for it, which you can use towards a used shotgun.

[MassMark]

I like the buy back idea. Even a competent gunsmith may not be able to tell how much of the molecular structure of the metal has been compromised - that requires tools beyond most gunsmiths IMO. Reminds me of a friend who rebuilt an ATV following a fire - got it on the cheap and sunk a hunk of dough into rebuilding it - all the "experts" told him the fram was just dandy. Twenty minutes after he hit the trail, he hit a rock and broke the A-arm and the frame in 3 places.... woops.....

I would run from this 1100....

[Mannix]

Unless you feel like heat treating and finishing the thing yourself or paying a gunsmith to, I'd go with the cosmetic fix-up and turn in, personally. It's going to be an expensive or at least time consuming restoration. So if your idea for this gun is a quick, cheap fix, it just isn't going to happen.

[evan price]

Most scrapyards are paying right around $120/ton for sheetmetal...

[Jim Watson]

There was once a gunsmith in this area who kind of specialized in refurbishing guns from house fires. Back then, before the Timid Internet, the rule of thumb was that if the springs retained their tension, the higher alloys of the action were not dangerously annealed.

That's the good news, or might be, if the springs still sprong.

The bad news is that at current labor rates, if you cannot do it all yourself, paying a gunsmith to bash it apart and "inspect" it, then buying so many replacement parts, will cost more than a functional secondhand gun.

[foghornl]

After the shotgun got that hot, I would not attempt what you are suggesting. That much heat is bound to have damaged the 'temper' of the steel.

Save this one for a wall-hanger only, or turn in for cash at one of those 'buy-back' thingys

[gezzer]

I am a gunsmith the gun is junk do not try and repair it it is a killer waiting for a victim.

[hkmp5g17]

Thanks for all the imput- and the gun buyback suggestion:D

I'm not doing anything with it for now. My friend still has it and is on vacation- so sorry for not posting pics.

I thought the same thing about the the tempering of the steel.

Anyone remember an article in one of the gun mags where the author had several guns go through a fire- and then restored them?

I think one was a Kimber 1911.....

[GeorgeR]

If you want to PM me your email address, I'll send you an article I wrote dealing with water and fire damaged guns. Most fire damaged guns are hurt buy the water used to put out the fire rather than heat..Start by separating the wood from the steel and soak the gun in kerosene or diesel fuel for a few weeks. The bbl is probably toast, but I've seen them on auction sites in the $60-75 range. My experience has been that if the springs haven't lost their temper then the receiver is probably OK.
I'll probably get crucified for that last sentence :), but I've seen a lot of fire/water damged guns brought back to useful life.

[TESCH]

If it was cooled quick by water then that thing has brittle metal and is an accident waiting to happen. Brittle metal is strong but as its name suggests is easily breakable into small parts, especially by a sudden force.

[zinj]

Even if the metal didn't lose its temper you would spend more in parts than just buying a working gun, from your description.