[happyguy]

Why not? Folks carry Glocks with one in the pipe all the time. If it's safe to carry a Glock without a manual safety, why bother engaging the safety of any modern weapon?

Regards,
Happyguy:D

[Old Fuff]

Happyguy:

The Glock does indeed have a manual safety - mounted in the trigger face. It also has a mechanical firing pin block that prevents the pistol from being fired unless the trigger is pulled.

Some other automatics have manual safeties, but not mechanical ones. John Browning early .38 pistols didn't have a manual safety, but it was intended that they be carried with the hammer down - usually with an empty chamber. If this is what you have in mind, fine. If not you may be asking for trouble and a big hospital bill.

[Navy joe]

Ok, I carry Glocks with 3.5 connectors all the time. I use a good holster and forget about it. Even with the lightened connector the trigger must travel about .55 inches by my measurement to fire. My 1911 has to go about .1 inch with a 4lb pull. That is a tap in the grand scheme of things. No thanks, I'll carry my guns the way they are meant to be carried.

[Gordon]

Hey OLD FUFF. On the other .380 forum I was telling the guys the only .380 's I owned were an old Model 51 Remington and a 1955 Browning pocket model. Both have grip safeties . I don't feel good about carrying them with chamber loaded even with BOTH safeties engaged. Are you familiar with these two mechanical jewels?:)

[happyguy]

The Glock does indeed have a manual safety - mounted in the trigger face. It also has a mechanical firing pin block that prevents the pistol from being fired unless the trigger is pulled.

But the Glocks manual trigger mounted safety is deactivated when the trigger is pulled???? My H&K USP has a mechanical firing pin block also. Five pounds of pressure on the Glock trigger and it discharges. Five pounds of pressure on the H&K's trigger and it discharges.

Regards,
Happyguy:D

[Old Fuff]

Gordon:

Yes I am, I've owned both. In both cases the grip and manual safeties block the sear, supposedly keeping it from moving far enough to release the hammer (Remington) or striker (Browning). The big weakness in the Browning is that the striker has a long nose that also works as an ejector. If you eject a loaded round the ejector/striker/firing pin hits the primer right in the middle (!) Therefor on the few occasions I carried one I did so with the chamber empty and planed to rack the slide if I ran into trouble (I didn't).

None of this applies to the Remington, which is an excellent design that some believe is better then the Colt 1903 (.32) and 1908 (.380) Be that as it may, none of them have a reputation for accidental discharges. Partly this is because before World War Two most people who carried pistols carried them with empty chambers, or in the case of the Colt Government Model, with an empty chamber or loaded chamber with the hammer fully down. In those days the only people that went "cocked & locked" were the Texas Rangers.

[Tamara]

A Glock's firing mechanism is not fully cocked.

A true single-action mechanism has all the energy stored in it it needs to fire the gun, usually coupled with a much shorter and lighter trigger pull than the Glock, plus no "trigger safety" (ie: for the Glock trigger to be tripped, something has to completely protrude across the trigger face, whereas on a conventional single action mechanism, pressure on the outside edge of the trigger or side loads from the holster itself could conceivably trip it.)

Why tempt fate? If the gun has a single action trigger and a safety, why not use it? Keep your software updated and hardware won't be so much of an issue, as El Tejon would say...

[Andrew Wyatt]

the manual safety is a nice thing, but i don't panic about it if it becomes disegaged in the holster (which is rate, since i don't lighten the detent spring or use gas peddle safeties).


I also don't pin my gripsafeties, since i;ve never had a problem with making them work as designed.

[happyguy]

Aaaahhhh guys.....I was just trying to get a rise out of the Glocksters:neener:

Regards,
Happyguy:D