Silencer for my revolver


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Novus Collectus
August 2, 2007, 01:22 PM
How much might it cost (not including the tax stamp) to either have a silencer made for my Nagant, or to have the barrel threaded to accept one attached to the end? How much do .30 silencers go for used?
Which way might be best, have the barrel ported and have the silencer enshroud it, or just get a commercially made one for the end?
I know very little about silencers and I am not sure how unbalanced a silencer would make the revolver if it is sticking off the end, so any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

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AndyC
August 2, 2007, 01:27 PM
It won't be very efficient - the gap between the cylinder and forcing-cone of the barrel will allow a lot of noise to escape.

fletcher
August 2, 2007, 01:30 PM
AndyC, a Nagant revolver closes the gap upon cocking, but I do not know how efficiently.

Novus Collectus
August 2, 2007, 01:33 PM
That is correct, the Nagant is one of the fews revolvers that are silencable.
The gap is not just closed prior to discharge, but the brass extending beyond the cylinder seals it.

GRIZ22
August 2, 2007, 01:36 PM
It seems a lot of money to spend on an inexpensive gun.

AndyC
August 2, 2007, 01:37 PM
Ah, drat - I forgot about the Nagant's gas-sealing capabilities - sorry, it's been a while... :o

Novus Collectus
August 2, 2007, 01:37 PM
Griz,
It is one of those novelty things done just so that I can say I did it. If anything the inexpensiveness of the gun makes it all that much easier to alter without much guilt.

Richard Simmons
August 2, 2007, 01:49 PM
Seems that all the cost would be in the suppressor and little at all in the gun. Perhaps you could get a surpressor for a 9x19 threaded in a standard thread size and simply thread the end of your nagant to match. The inside diameter might be a little larger than necessary but it would still offer some suppression and you could use the can on other firearms.

fletcher
August 2, 2007, 01:50 PM
Would a small 7.62 rifle suppressor work, or would that be too heavy?

Novus Collectus
August 2, 2007, 01:54 PM
Fletcher, that is what I am wondering too.

Richard Simmons, are there silencers for .32 ACP pistols out there?

SDC
August 2, 2007, 02:09 PM
Here's a pic of an original silenced Nagant (from a Russian book, "Directory of Small Arms", by A.I. Blagovestov). Also, a pic of a modern silenced revolver, made by Knight's Armament; this thing apparently shoots a saboted 30-calibre cartridge, and uses an O-ring setup to seal the barrel/cylinder gap. They built it off of a GP-100.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p22/StaceyC123/SilencedNagant.jpg

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p22/StaceyC123/RevolverRifle.jpg

Novus Collectus
August 2, 2007, 02:17 PM
Awesome SDC!

redneckrepairs
August 2, 2007, 02:29 PM
I am not shure the nagat would seal up enough ( even with its weird system/ammo ) to silence . a better place to ask tho would be http://www.silencertests.com/silencer-forum/index.php

Deanimator
August 2, 2007, 02:39 PM
Didn't I see the Ruger on an episode of "The X-Files"? I think somebody shot Cancer Man with it.

GRIZ22
August 2, 2007, 03:02 PM
Griz,
It is one of those novelty things done just so that I can say I did it. If anything the inexpensiveness of the gun makes it all that much easier to alter without much guilt.

I guess we all have done stuff because we can. Nothing wrong with that.

MisterPX
August 2, 2007, 04:15 PM
I'd go with a factory available 9mm can. Most 30 cal cans are for rifles, so they'd be cumbersome. Barrel threading should be $75 or less. You could make your own for the cost of materails, but I don't know what kind of machinery you have available to make one.

One thing to remember, is that if you're using corrosive ammo, be sure to clean the can when you clean teh Nagant.

tuna
August 3, 2007, 02:07 PM
Anyone know just how much noise escapes a suppressed revolver?

I don't have any experience with suppressors period, but I know enough that they don't work like the movies show. But, if you did suppress, say a Model 10, would it still be quiet enough to shoot without ear protection?

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