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Mike128
August 3, 2007, 09:51 AM
I was flipping through the channels and caught an old Miami Vice episode. There was a murder in the court room on trial. The lights go out and you hear a bunch of noise ending with the sound of a pump action shotgun. When the lights came on all of the court employees had a gun out pointed at the murder. The judge had the shotgun.
The judge states that he was glad they all believe in exercising their Second Amendment Rights. Gets a laugh and applause from the crowd and they all put the weapons away.
Let's ignore the fact they had a circular firing squad and trying to shoot someone in the dark. I just thought it was different to see guns not portayed in a bad light and mention of the Second Amendment on TV. Also, court officials carrying in a goverment building, including the stenographer. Citizens and lawyers may also have been carrying but the scene cut to quickly to tell for sure, all I could tell was there was a lot of guns pointed at this guy.

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El Tejon
August 3, 2007, 11:09 AM
Remember the movie And Justice for All? The judge (the guy who always wanted to take people up in his helicopter) had a gun cabinet in his chambers.:D

30 cal slob
August 3, 2007, 11:23 AM
crockett had a 10 mm IIRC?

Norm357
August 3, 2007, 11:59 AM
I know a Judge who carries twin .45s in a double shoulder holster.:D

alucard0822
August 3, 2007, 12:07 PM
crockett had a 10 mm IIRC

the venerable Bren Ten

How times have changed, a lot of the CSI type cop shows nowadays try with great effort to show guns in a negative light. That scene probably would be changed to include a hostage situation with the lights going out, and the perps girlfrined standing in front of him yelling at everyone to let him go, and ending with swat taking her out, and the lead character commenting something like "desperation and a gun will earn you a trip to the morgue":barf: needless to say, I like the tv land re-runs from way back.

Sniper X
August 3, 2007, 12:11 PM
Just a bit of trivia those of you might want to know!

In the pilot episode, Don Johnson carried a Browning BDA in .45 Auto. But once the series was picked up, they needed a stylish and new weapon for Sonny Crockett. In seasons 1 & 2, he carried a Bren Ten in 10MM Auto. However the manufacturer, Dornaus & Dixon went bust. So the ever up-to-date Sonny switches to a Smith & Wesson 645 chambered in .45 Auto for seasons 3 and 4. But wait, by the fifth season Smith and Wesson has a new gun and the ever fashionable Crockett upgrades to the new Smith & Wesson 4506, also in .45 Auto. The piece he carried in an ankle holster was a .45 Detonics Combatmaster.

About the shoulder holster. It had been made before Miami Vice, sold as the Original Jackass Rig. The Jackass Leather Company changed their name to Galco and then Miami Vice hit the air. The rig became so popular that it is now called the Miami Classic rig and can be bought from Galco's website and other places.

Rico Tubbs (Philip Michael Thomas) had a Smith and Wesson Model 38 Chief's Special and a Model 37 Ithaca Shotgun cut down.

TonyB
August 3, 2007, 12:12 PM
There are a few pro-gun messages in tv shows these days,but you kind of have to search for them.Jerico is pretty pro.Also on CSI one season,Grissam made a big deal of how he didn't carry....in the course of the episode someone tries to kill him.At the end of the show,they show him at the range w/ his Glock.:cool:

Checkman
August 3, 2007, 12:17 PM
Actually in the pilot episode of Miami Vice Don Johnson carried a Sig Sauer P220 in 45 acp. I always thought it was hilarious that he carried a Detonic in an ankle holster. Lightweight shoes, no socks and a chunky old 45 Detonic strapped onto his ankle. Okay.

Jim Watson
August 3, 2007, 12:21 PM
I thot Miami Vice started him out with a Detonics Pocket 9 on his ankle.

Sure, Gil Grissom can carry a gun, he is, after all, Authorized Personnel.
You and I are not.

Best not to get your firearms expertise from TV and movies. Unless you are studying to be a prop man.

Bad Penny 03
August 3, 2007, 12:45 PM
Actually the Sig 220 he had in the pilot was originally sold under the Browning name. So same gun.

His Detonics was replaced by the S&W 4616 to match his 4506 in later seasons.

His back up in the pilot was a Sig .380 in his waste band before they went to the Bren Ten/Detonics load out.

I have these on DVD, just great stuff. The 80's rocked.

damien
August 3, 2007, 01:42 PM
That scene was from the very first episode.

http://www.moviebadgirls.com/capimage/Miami_Vice_TV_1_01.JPG

http://www.moviebadgirls.com/capimage/Miami_Vice_TV_1_02.JPG

http://www.moviebadgirls.com/capimage/Miami_Vice_TV_1_03.JPG

http://www.moviebadgirls.com/capimage/Miami_Vice_TV_1_04.JPG

Mainsail
August 3, 2007, 02:05 PM
I remember in the opening for one of the shows, a hit man executes a guy in a limo, then drops his gun and starts to walk away. A concerned citizen pulls his concealed weapon and attempts to hold the hit man for police. The hit man is standing a few feet away, arms up, facing the citizen. The guy playing the hit man was no actor, he had to have been a pro; he dropped his arms, drew, and fired in what looked like less than one second, dropping the citizen. I remember being stunned at how fast that could be done.

Scorpiusdeus
August 3, 2007, 02:05 PM
Are all the seasons available on DVD? I only have one and two.

damien
August 3, 2007, 02:11 PM
The guy playing the hit man was no actor, he had to have been a pro; he dropped his arms, drew, and fired in what looked like less than one second, dropping the citizen.

That's pretty fast. In that amount of time I would have probably only given him two fatal wounds. :neener:

Bad Penny 03
August 3, 2007, 02:12 PM
Yeah..all 5 seasons now.
They include the "lost episodes."

They are all double sided disks though, I hate that.

Bad Penny 03
August 3, 2007, 02:14 PM
The guy playing the hit man was no actor

LOL
Yeah, he must have been ex NSA or somethin.

Just kidding...It was pretty fast. I think he practiced in front of a mirror, but who knows...

Mainsail
August 3, 2007, 02:21 PM
LOL, the show was many moons ago, and I only saw it once. I thought it was an IPSC shooter they hired to play that small part. I doubt it was an actor.

Eric86GT
August 3, 2007, 02:21 PM
http://www.thegunzone.com/software/zubiena.html

I saw a thread on here awhile back about that scene. The guy is a pro. Jim Zubiena is his name.

Bad Penny 03
August 3, 2007, 02:23 PM
Yeah...
What was I thinking...

Hollyweird actors cant do anything right when it comes to guns in movies...
:)

Bad Penny 03
August 3, 2007, 02:27 PM
BOOM!
That Spas must have had some 40x46mmR HE in the tube (!)

I love how vice always had the shooters (hitmen) wearing yellow shooting glasses in public.
Real covert, eh ?

:)

Leanwolf
August 3, 2007, 06:24 PM
Quote:
The guy playing the hit man was no actor

LOL
Yeah, he must have been ex NSA or somethin.

Just kidding...It was pretty fast. I think he practiced in front of a mirror, but who knows...


Not only was the Miami Vice "hit man," Jim Zubiena, a professional actor, but he was also a very respected competitor in the Southwest Pistol League, IPSC, in Los Angeles.

I know. I used to shoot with Jim, and also knew his work as an actor. He and I talked many times about shooting, "the Business," etc.

The speed of his draw in that episode was not faked, or "speeded up" in the editing room. In SWPL/IPSC, he was extremely fast, and asccurate.

FWIW.

L.W.

Phaetos
August 3, 2007, 06:45 PM
How times have changed, a lot of the CSI type cop shows nowadays try with great effort to show guns in a negative light.

And for some reason the gun is always a .380, like it's some kind of super weapon. Save for the few times they can nail the exact make/model of a gun just by looking at the spent casing, in which case it's a Glock.

Bad Penny 03
August 3, 2007, 06:54 PM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0958271/

Jim "out of work" Zubiena

:)

MattB000
August 3, 2007, 06:55 PM
crockett had a 10 mm IIRC?

Whatever it was, it had enough stopping power to shoot down helicopters.

Ned Flangers
August 3, 2007, 08:54 PM
That draw is on you tube somewhere. Purty quick!

Ned Flangers
August 3, 2007, 08:58 PM
Boy oh boy! Just watched it again. That guy is very fast. Just typed in "miami vice draw".

Acera
August 3, 2007, 09:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOaGg1nXhgg

hankdatank1362
August 3, 2007, 10:02 PM
I always liked how Tubbs, even when facing unimaginable odds, always went for the .38 SPL first and saved the Ithaca 12GA as a backup....

Someone should have sat him down for a little talk.


And yeah, the IPSC shooter played the assasin who shot an killed the first Lieutenant, thusly bringing in Castillo. He had a hell of a draw... and a real purty 1911 in the tower scene.

Leanwolf
August 4, 2007, 01:21 AM
BAD PENNY 03 - "Jim "out of work" Zubiena"

Nahh. Wrong again.

No actor who is "not working," is out of work. They are merely "between engagements." ;)

L.W.

rodregier
August 5, 2007, 07:47 PM
Jimmy Z had some prop credits in "Nash Bridges" that are not listed in IMDB.
Some on Don Johnson's character pistols were designed by Jimmy Z.

http://www.nashbridges.us/viewtopic.php?p=4590&sid=ae2cc32600b7b7b194109cddf4d9732b

"...external modifications and cosmetics designed by Jim Zubiena"

Apparently Jim also appeared in an episode of "Nash Bridges" entitled
"The Tourist". No apparent IMDB credit either. (But then IMDB is not infallible).

Bad Penny 03
August 6, 2007, 01:16 AM
Nahh. Wrong again.

No actor who is "not working," is out of work. They are merely "between engagements."

Well then...I stand corrected...

:)

Dean Speir
August 10, 2007, 01:09 AM
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I remember in the opening for one of the shows, a hit man executes a guy in a limo, then drops his gun and starts to walk away. A concerned citizen pulls his concealed weapon and attempts to hold the hit man for police. The hit man is standing a few feet away, arms up, facing the citizen. The guy playing the hit man was no actor, he had to have been a pro; he dropped his arms, drew, and fired in what looked like less than one second, dropping the citizen. That's about the worst "remember" I've read in ages, especially since the DVDs are out and the actual clip has been on YouTube for the past year.

Jim "out of work" Zubiena Hardly. Although he maintains both his SAG and Equity cards, he devotes most of his time off his ranch to fronting a country & western band, White Horse.
Well then...I stand corrected... Well thenů you weren't, but now you are.
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Bad Penny 03
August 10, 2007, 01:27 AM
Jim "one hit wonder" Zubiena...?

:)

Well then… you weren't, but now you are.

You ever play Trivial Pursuit ?

zenner22
August 10, 2007, 09:40 AM
Well, on the subject of tv shows portraying guns in a positive light, I'm going through the Magnum PI dvds and an episode on Season 4 has Magnum in his place, just sitting on the couch watching tv. On the table in front of him (among other stuff) is a copy of Shooting Times. No attention is drawn to this and it is not part of the plot. Just laying there on the table. It was good to see and you know Selleck put that there himself. I don't think you'd ever see that nowadays. Unless it was in the room of a bad guy, of course.

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