Glock Grip Angle After Reduction?


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ugaarguy
August 4, 2007, 02:49 AM
I've seen plenty of photos of Glock grip reductions. Does anyone know if these reductions can get a Glock - particularly a 19 or 17 - to a 1911 grip angle? Or if not, how close can it come?

If a grip reduction can get it closer to a 1911 grip angle (a very natural grip angle for me) I may get a G17 or G19 very soon.

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RyanM
August 4, 2007, 04:30 PM
Your best bet for replicating a 1911 angle would be one of those thingies that attaches to the back of the grip. That's the main difference between a Glock and 1911. I don't have the link on me now, but a place makes a thing that even has a manual safety-like protrusion to rest your thumb on.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=36775&stc=1&d=1141793519

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=36776&stc=1&d=1141793519

As you can see, the actual angle of the grip is practically identical. It's how high up the backstrap goes. The 1911's beavertail goes much, much lower. A cheap little piece of plastic that fills in the extra space on the Glock solves the problem. I'll see if I can find a link to that thing.

Airman193SOS
August 4, 2007, 04:34 PM
I can't understand how this bothers you to the point of distraction. I have three handguns, all different makes, and I don't notice it at all.

ugaarguy
August 5, 2007, 02:01 AM
I can't understand how this bothers you to the point of distraction. I have three handguns, all different makes, and I don't notice it at all.
With 1911s I can point shoot more accurately than with Glocks, and aquire a flash sight picture much more quickly as well. It's about maintaining accuracy while increasing speed. If the gun doesn't point naturally it slows you down.

Spider Pig
August 5, 2007, 05:32 AM
of course it matters! maybe you can't see it because you only own 3 handguns.

TimboKhan
August 5, 2007, 06:32 AM
Ugaarguy,

No idea about the grip reduction itself, but in last months American Handgunner they had an article about a company that makes metal frames for Glocks, and apparently you can buy a frame with a 1911 grip angle. I am in the middle of packing, but if I happen across the article, I will list it here....

Airman193SOS
August 5, 2007, 02:41 PM
of course it matters! maybe you can't see it because you only own 3 handguns.

Oh, don't take that to mean that I haven't fired others. I've fired a vast number of guns. Unfortunately, finances have limited me to this point to my meager collection.

I have never noticed anything weird about the grip angle on a Glock, no matter what it is I'm switching from. Yet I often see this complaint arise, and I wonder where it comes from. As it stands, you need only look at the supplied picture in this thread to see that the difference is negligible.

I just don't get it.

ugaarguy
August 5, 2007, 02:59 PM
Yet I often see this complaint arise, and I wonder where it comes from. As it stands, you need only look at the supplied picture in this thread to see that the difference is negligible.

I just don't get it.
The picture doesn't tell the story. Glocks have an approx 17 degree grip angle, compared to 11 degrees / 13 degrees for 1911s with flat MSH / arched MSH respectively, if I'm remembering that correctly. Owen, who's an engineer working for a major small producer, posted the numbers here a while back, and I believe those are the correct ones. Either way it's pretty significant difference when the angles are actually measured.

Timbo, it's CCF Raceframes that makes the metal aftermarket Glock frames. They want $350 for the frame, and the backstrap which changes it to a 1911 like grip angle is more money on top of that. I've yet to see anything on their website about dealer pricing either.

Used 2nd gen Glocks are going for about $400 in my area, and I work at gunshop, so I get a little employee discount on top of that. I may pick up a used gun and do the reduction myself. Worst case is I fail and I've got an unusable frame to strip the parts off for the CCF frame. Best case is I do it right and I'm only out my time in labor, the money I'd have spent for parts to build the CCF frame.

I'm still debating this, but we'll see what happens.

SuperNaut
August 5, 2007, 03:00 PM
As it stands, you need only look at the supplied picture in this thread to see that the difference is negligible

Which part is negligible?

The finger-grooves? Backstrap hump? Differing angles between front and back strap? Or the two/three degrees difference between a 1911 and Glock?. IMO it isn't only the angle.

1911 guy
August 5, 2007, 04:22 PM
Grip angle is a subjective thing, some prefer one over the other. Any pistol shooter can pick up a working pistol and perform with it, but when you pick up speed in your shooting you rely more and more on muscle memory. Changing the angle of the gun changes how you must do things and slows you down. It's not that one is better than another, it's that one is better than the other for me or you. Kinda like the XD-45 I had. I could shoot it accurately, but not at speed. Slowfire only, or the trigger messed up my rhythm, the sights were different, the grip was a bit thicker, etc. Good pistol, actually, just not good for me. I got my dad one for his birthday, he thinks it's the greatest thing since fried green tomatos.

WarMachine
August 5, 2007, 10:05 PM
The grip angle thing used to bother me BIG time. But the more I spend practicing and shooting between my 1911's and Glock, it has become a non issue.

Practice is cheapest method IMO, and I am no slower with either now. I don't see what the big deal is, but to each their own.

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