Survival Gun - Air Force O/U take down?


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BlindJustice
August 4, 2007, 08:27 PM
ANybody remember the little Over/Under .22 LR & .410 ga. that
was an Air Force survival gun? It had some Mnn designation and
it was all metal, the stock had a place for 8? .22 LR rds
and half that in .410 rds. It folded in half.

I think 20 or so years ago Springfield Armory made it for
a while Is it out of production?

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Jorg Nysgerrig
August 4, 2007, 08:34 PM
Springfield M6 Scout. I don't believe they make it any more. You can still find them here and there, but they command a premium, especially for what they are.

http://www.oldjimbo.com/survival/v-shrake/m6.html

An alternative that isn't quite a nifty as it is a single caliber is this one from Henry.
http://henryrepeating.com/h002_survival.cfm

BlindJustice
August 4, 2007, 08:47 PM
Thanks couldn't remember the M6 Scout name

The Henry lookks like the old AR-7 - it floats

cane
August 5, 2007, 01:50 PM
Henry's advertising is somewhat misleading, while a modified version of the AR-7 was used by the Israeli air force, it was never issued/used by the USAF.

jcord
August 13, 2007, 02:25 PM
Its the M6 scout. I have one in stainless steel that is 22 hornet/ 410 shotgun.

It is no longer made.

MattB000
August 13, 2007, 02:32 PM
I saw one recently that was a 12ga/.308 but it didn't look very well made. Didn't recognize the brand either.

GhostCat
August 13, 2007, 02:42 PM
I have one but its made by Ithaca.....and its a .22 Hornet / .410 over and under......AWESOME GUN!!!!!!!!...........That .22 Hornet is one bad round.
It says on the gun "Property of USAF"

mp510
August 13, 2007, 02:48 PM
I think 20 or so years ago Springfield Armory made it for
a while Is it out of production?
I am pretty sure thast they are out of production now, but they often turn up used and some gun shops still have them on inventory. There may have been a run done with normal triggers, including some factory pistols before they were discontinured altogether, but I have only seen those advertised- never actually seen one in the flesh. I saw one NIB last week, .22 LR over
.410 for $295.

mp510
August 13, 2007, 02:50 PM
Also, they were not made by Springfield. They only imported them. The weapons were Czech made.

If you look around, you can also find some that were AOW'd and had the barrels brought down to 14". Those transfer on $5 stamp.

Neo-Luddite
August 13, 2007, 07:50 PM
The S/A's were czec made--the quality was good and they are long enough to not be an AOW. I still see them once in a while. I kinda wanted one--but the +200 cost didn't hit me as fair for what the gun was.

tulsamal
August 13, 2007, 09:47 PM
Also, they were not made by Springfield. They only imported them. The weapons were Czech made.

Let's back that train up! They WERE made in the USA for years. I've got one in there in the blue plastic case. Parkerized, .22 LR and .410. Then they started having them made in the Czech Republic and they added stainless and .22 Hornet.

I saw one recently that was a 12ga/.308 but it didn't look very well made. Didn't recognize the brand either.

That was probably a Savage. For decades, it seemed like every farmer had one of those Savage combination guns stashed somewhere.

Hmm, but I take that back in your case. I'm nearly positive they never offered the Savage in that combination. Must have been some kind of import you saw.

Gregg

rc135
August 13, 2007, 10:06 PM
SPRINGFIELD ARMORY M6 SCOUT SWING-ACTION, OVER/UNDER .22LR/.410 COMBINATION GUN.

I bought one about a year ago, so they may still be manufacturing them -- I do know that Springfield still had parts, scopes, etc. for sale on their website.

Nice gun. Fun. Mine is 22LR over .410 bore, blued. Weighs almost nothing and folds down/breaks apart into an easily stored/hidden bundle.

If you email me, I'll send you a nice compilation of articles on the M-6.


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Nhsport
August 13, 2007, 10:40 PM
If I am thinking of the same thing I messed with one that belonged to a buddy . It didn't have a regulsr trigger but a bar kind of a thing that you squeese. The action of this trigger bar thing was so hard and poor that you couldn't hardly hit the side of a barn. We took it apart and tried to work it over to make something shootable out of it but never made much progress.
I guess that the idea was to make a rifle that a pilot with smashed up or half frozen hands could shoot , but if a couple of guys sitting at a bench with sandbags couldn't hit much I expect a beat up pilot couldn't do much more than make noise . Possibly one of the early actuall issue guns were better , I hope so but I think this is one of those guns that try too hard to make something new and improved when the same old thing would have worked better.
I am thinking of a run of the mill bolt 22 with some kind of hollow stock with ammo storage

SDC
August 14, 2007, 09:29 AM
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I saw one recently that was a 12ga/.308 but it didn't look very well made. Didn't recognize the brand either.

That was probably a Savage. For decades, it seemed like every farmer had one of those Savage combination guns stashed somewhere.

Hmm, but I take that back in your case. I'm nearly positive they never offered the Savage in that combination. Must have been some kind of import you saw.

This was likely a Valmet combination gun, as 12 Ga/.308 is a common offering in those.

GRIZ22
August 15, 2007, 02:34 PM
The USAF version was the M6 made by Ithaca. The rifle was a .22 LR or .22 Hornet and a 410 shotgun barrel. It has a 14" barrel so it is subject to restrictions. The Springfield M6 was a copy of the USAF M6 made later on and was made with a 16" or longer barrel. I don't think Spingfield made them with shorter barrels from the factory.

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