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blacksuit
August 6, 2007, 02:08 PM
Hi all, I will be flying on midwest Airlines here in a couple of days and would like to take my glock with me. I will be flying to another state for about a week. I know that the firearm and ammo have to be in a locked container, ( I have a 50 cal. can that has a lock, with wooden compartment to hold mags and pistol.) I also know that these items have to be checked in before the flight. My real question here is, has anyone dealt with midwest airlines before as far as checking in a firearm. I have flown alot, but not since 9/11 and I have not ever taken a firearm like this before...I just want no hassles at the airport. Do you all think the container I have will work? For see any problems?

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Kacerdias
August 6, 2007, 03:00 PM
I copy/pasted this directly from Midwest Express's website:

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Passengers may not carry firearms and ammunition aboard as carry-on luggage. However, unloaded firearms may be transported in checked luggage if declared to the agent at check-in and packed in a suitable container. Handguns must be in a locked container. If you are bringing small arms ammunition for personal use, the ammunition must be in the original box and may be transported in checked luggage. Each passenger is limited to a maximum of 11 pounds of ammunition in checked baggage.

The following is a summary of key regulatory requirements to transport firearms, firearm parts or ammunition in checked baggage according to the Transportation Security Administration’s policies:
• All firearms must be declared to the air carrier during the ticket counter check-in process.
• The firearm must be unloaded.
• The firearm must be carried in a hard-sided container.
• The container must be locked.
• It is preferred that the passenger provide the key or combination to the screener if it is necessary to open the container, and then remain present during screening to take back possession of the key after the container is cleared. If you are not present and the screener must open the container, the TSA and/or airline will make a reasonable attempt to contact the passenger. If this is unsuccessful, the container will not be placed on the plane since unlocked gun cases (or cases with broken locks) are not permitted on aircraft due to Federal regulations.
• Any ammunition transported must be securely packed in fiber (such as cardboard), wood or metal boxes or other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition.
• Firearm magazines/clips do not satisfy the packaging requirement unless they provide a complete and secure enclosure of the ammunition (e.g., by securely covering the exposed portions of the magazine or by securely placing the magazine in a pouch, holder, holster or lanyard).
• The ammunition may also be located in the same hard-sided case as the firearm, as long as it is properly packed as described above.
• Black powder and percussion caps used with black-powder type firearms are not permitted in carry-on or checked baggage.

The regulations are strictly enforced. Violations can result in criminal prosecution and the imposition of civil penalties of up to $10,000 per violation.

Please visit TSA.gov for further information regarding the transportation of special items.

Kacerdias
August 6, 2007, 03:09 PM
As a follow up, as long as the can you are using is hardsided and the contents can be locked it should be ok. For ammunition, either leave it in its original box or use a plastic ammunition container. You can get them wherever reloading supplies are sold. I've never had any problems using them and I fly a lot.

Rather than using an ammo can, go get a real hard sided pistol case that can take the small luggage locks. If you use the TSA approved "Government backdoor" locks, they are less likely to be snipped off should the TSA decide to poke around while you aren't there. Carry extra locks with you just in case. At the front counter, the airline agent will give you a little declaration ticket to tape to the pistol case which proves you declared it to the airline. Be sure it is affixed before taking your luggage to the TSA screeners.

How much hassle you get will depend upon which airport you are flying to/from and how well trained the airline folks are. I've only had an issue at DCA and BWI. Both were due to poorly trained employees in gun hostile places. Also, be sure that you are able to legally possess your chosen firearm at both your origin and destination. Should you get hassled just stay calm, smile a lot, and be as courteous as possible. Getting visibly mad will attract LEO's and complicate things.

TexKettering
August 6, 2007, 04:21 PM
Does anyone know if TSA allows the hard case with the gun to be placed inside another piece of checked luggage?

NukemJim
August 6, 2007, 04:32 PM
Does anyone know if TSA allows the hard case with the gun to be placed inside another piece of checked luggage?

My understanding is that yes, you can put the hard case with the gun inside another case.

However TSA being TSA I make no claims as to real world.

NukemJim

TexKettering
August 6, 2007, 04:55 PM
My understanding is that yes, you can put the hard case with the gun inside another case.

However TSA being TSA I make no claims as to real world.

NukemJim


Yeah, you'd probably get 5 different answer from 5 different TSA employees on that question.

xjchief
August 6, 2007, 08:03 PM
I've traveled extensively, too extensively actually, and found much like others that the TSA rules vary from airport to airport. I'd suggest that you check your pistol in a lockable, hard-sided suitcase. That way there's absolutely no interpretation by some misguided agent.

Any other method could leave you with heartburn.

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