Savage or CZ for .308 long range precision rifle


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bullfrog99
August 7, 2007, 06:27 PM
Considering a range of about 500 yards or so, and given that i'm working with a budget, which of the following $650 rifles would you choose and why:

a Savage 12 Low Profile Varminter with a stainless fluted 26" barrel in .308 with the accutrigger, a laminated wood stock and a 1 in 10 twist. (listed in catalog but not online).

http://www.savagearms.com/12Varminter.htm

or a CZ-550 Varmint Kevlar with an HS precision stock, integral scope mount, Mauser style action, 26" blued heavy barrel, single set trigger and a 1 in 12 twist.

http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=49

Paper punching at long range will be its primary use, with the slimmest chance of being used for long range deer.

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dagunner
August 7, 2007, 09:05 PM
Both brands are good guns. Myself, I would go with the Savage because I currently shoot a Savage 111 with Accutriger that I rebarreled for 6.5-284. It was originally a 30-06 and shot extreamly accuratly ( I took an elk last year with it at 430 yds ) with the factory barrel. It is currently shooting groups of three inches or less at 1000yds. I don't know of a more accurate factory action. If you are on a budget, get the Savage.
Semper Fi and good shooting.

Frightener 88
August 7, 2007, 09:13 PM
anyone know off the top of their head if the savage 10 stock would be able to accomidate a savage 12?

bullseyes76
August 7, 2007, 09:18 PM
I'm new to the site . I just bought a CZ 550 in 6.5x55mm I love it I haven't shot it yet any ideas on scopes . Leaning toward a leupold or a Bushy elite .

MinnMooney
August 7, 2007, 09:25 PM
If you're going to shoot mainly paper, check out Savage's newest .308; the 12 F/TR Precision Target Rifle
Here's savage's own description :
Laminated stock with adjustable cheek piece, rounded forend and bipod rail
Target AccuTrigger adjustable from 6 oz. to 2 lbs
Right bolt, Right port short action receiver
Smaller ejection port for extra rigidity
30" Extra-heavy stainless barrel
Chambered in .308 Winchester
MSRP $1142
http://www.savagearms.com/2007_pressrelease.htm
I didn't know that savage made the Low Profile in .308Win.


to : dagunner - "It is currently shooting groups of three inches or less at 1000yds."

Please have those groups witnessed and get in the record books!!!
1000 Yard World Record 4.2" for TEN shots.

R.W.Dale
August 7, 2007, 09:26 PM
It is currently shooting groups of three inches or less at 1000yds

WOW! Congratulations on your new world record

http://www.6mmbr.com/page/page/1309618.htm

R.W.Dale
August 7, 2007, 09:29 PM
Back on topic, As much as I like CZ's and despise the accu-glock trigger. I'm gonna say that if you're on a budget the savage is a better way to go due to the better after market support for the Savage

rangerruck
August 8, 2007, 12:29 AM
or even better, the cz 550 E-1 or 750 E-1 , tactical models, or even if you like traditional , the cz UHR. Guaranteed 1000 yd accuracy.

erict
August 8, 2007, 08:47 AM
I have a CZ 527 varminter and a Savage 110fp. The CZ is more sleek, refined, and it feels much nicer than the Savage, but the Savage walks all over the CZ in the accuracy department. The CZ cost about $250 more than the Savage also :confused:.

If you want to use alot of aftermarket parts and do a build I'd get the Savage. There seems to be more aftermarket stuff available for them.

tracks21
August 8, 2007, 10:12 AM
Savage 110fp in .308 simply can not be beaten in the acurracy department anywhere in it's price range. The self adjustable trigger alone saves you the money a trigger job will cost. Also consider the ammo part of your budget .308 match is relatively cheap at $1 per round for black hills compared to other less common calibers.

hankdatank1362
August 8, 2007, 11:12 AM
Darn, somebody got called out on the world record thing!!!

Ghost Tracker
August 8, 2007, 11:20 AM
I'm a fan of both CZ rifles & pistols but, by your description of application & budget, the Savage is the best bet. The CZ will make you smile when you look at its finish. The Savage will make you smile BIGGER when you look at groups on the target.

rino451
August 8, 2007, 12:30 PM
No one's mentioned CZ's set trigger yet. Granted the regular might not be as nice, but the set can make up for it. Also, having an HS stock w/ aluminum bedding block from the factory is nice. Finding good rings/mount is a bit of a challenge, though.

erict
August 8, 2007, 01:28 PM
The CZ trigger is VERY nice. If you push it forward it will set to almost nothing which is great if you're shooting from a rest (I wouldn't even think of using it for hunting though :eek:).

I prefer the accutriger on the Savage though. I guess I prefer it because I started shooting with a Glock trigger and they feel similar to me.

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