Best Rifle/Scope Combo Under $500


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.455_Hunter
August 7, 2007, 07:50 PM
Greetings,

My co-worker is interested in getting his 18 year old son a nice bolt action rifle/scope combo in the $300 to $500 dollar range for general purpose plinking, target shooting and possible hunting. His son already shoots a surplus Mosin-Nagant, and is not interested in a .22 long rifle. I am thinking that a .223 Rem or .308 Win would be the best for him due to ammo availability and costs. I am sure that he would want a black synthetic stock, and probably a blued action, but stainless might work.

Guns I am considering suggesting to him are the Savage 110 package deals, the Stevens 200 (Savage’s budget line, needs scope) and the Mossberg ATR 100 series.

Any suggestions or comments?

Remember, the total price of this gun combo needs to be under $500, so the $650 Remington 700 with the $575 Leopold scope and $150 tacticool scope mounts won’t cut it price wise.

Is it OK to shoot military spec 5.56mm in a .223 Rem bolt action, and military spec 7.62 x 51mm in a .308 Winchester bolt action?

Thanks,

Hunter

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Cron
August 7, 2007, 07:58 PM
I'd check out the Howa 1500's. They list for slightly over $500.00 and should retail for under five. They use the same action as the Weatherby Vanguard and that's a good action! My 30-06 has been great for 15 years. If you gotta have US made then look elsewhere.

MilSpec 7.62 is usually milder loaded than 308 and should be OK. 5.56 is loaded hotter than most .223 and caution should be used.

elrod
August 7, 2007, 08:03 PM
Is he going new or used? New, got to be pretty particular. Used, of course, a lot of options. Also, what kind of hunting?
Need more info for really good recommendations......;)

goalie
August 7, 2007, 08:12 PM
I bought a Mossberg ATR-100 in .270 a few years ago. It is reliable, accurate, comes with a scope base already installed, and cost about $250 for the blued, synthetic model.

Put the other $250 into a pair of rings, a sling, and a scope (Weaver Grand Slam fixed 4x on mine) and you are good to go.

It comes in .308 as well.

The same could be done with the Stevens rifles as well, or go used.

ArmedBear
August 7, 2007, 08:31 PM
Weatherby Vanguard package can be found on sale with mounted scope, case, and sling included for $500.

Howa 1500 for around $425, rifle and mounted scope only.

Both guns are built around slightly different versions of the same action, which in turn is based on the Reminton 700. Both guns are good for MOA with decent ammo.

MarinePride
August 7, 2007, 09:01 PM
Check out GB for an idea of prices. It seems that the entry level rifle market is really cheap to get into these days. You can get a Savage 110 with the accutrigger for about $370. WalMart also has good prices on thier rifles and can order a lot of what you may be looking for.

Higher end bolt rifles with wood stocks are ridiculously expensive these days.

CajunTim
August 7, 2007, 09:17 PM
Go with the Savages try Buds for best prices.

.41Dave
August 7, 2007, 09:35 PM
I had a similar budget last year when I bought a deer rifle for my daughter. I went with a Stevens 200 (A Savage without the Accutrigger) and a Burris Fullfield II 3-9x40 scope. Total cost was about $450. It's a great rifle and a great scope especially considering the price.

Outlaws
August 7, 2007, 09:58 PM
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praharin
August 7, 2007, 11:14 PM
No. But you can shoot .308 in a 7.62Nato or .223 in a 5.56Nato.

no. you can shoot 7.62 nato in a 308 chamber, and 223 in a 5.56 chamber. you may get away with doing it the other way around, but it wont be safe.

Outlaws
August 7, 2007, 11:26 PM
no. you can shoot 7.62 nato in a 308 chamber, and 223 in a 5.56 chamber. you may get away with doing it the other way around, but it wont be safe.
My bad, you are right on the 7.62. I didn't realize there was that large of a pressure spec difference. Figured it was like the 223/5.56 where it was just the chamber dimensions...which there still is...but the pressure of a slightly tight 7.62 Nato cartridge obviously won't be of such an issue as a 5.56 crammed in a .223.

S&WKING
August 8, 2007, 12:23 AM
id probably buy a 243 good for prarie dogs, coyotes and even deer and 223 and 308 are getting harder to find w/ the war

hankdatank1362
August 8, 2007, 12:45 AM
This past week, Bass Pro here in Myrtle Beach been having specials on the Reimington 710 series (700's little bro)... found a .270 for $399, and their weekly flyer had Remington 710 in .30-06 for $299. These are rifle/scope combos! I figure it's b/c Remington is getting ready to replace their 710 line with something else, if they haven't already (read it on their website a few weeks ago.)

rangerruck
August 8, 2007, 01:18 AM
savage, Howa , or mossberg. roughly but close, to that order. then throw in a remmy if you can find it, but not the 710 series.

praharin
August 8, 2007, 05:14 PM
Reimington 710


eww

JTW Jr.
August 8, 2007, 09:03 PM
just a bit more , but Dicks sporting goods here has Rem 700SPS combo packages for $549

praharin
August 8, 2007, 11:25 PM
549<500

???

JTW Jr.
August 9, 2007, 12:58 AM
:rolleyes:
the combo package is $549 ( combo package is the rifle and the scope ) and yes it is over $500 which I stated.... but whatever , just trying to pass along a good deal that I spotted at the store...

cmidkiff
August 9, 2007, 01:15 AM
Savage 93R17-GVXP. List price is $291, with a 3-9x40 Simmons already mounted. Spend the extra on a few hundred rounds of .17hmr, and perhaps a bipod.

Very fun gun, inexpensive, accurate past 200 yards, what's not to like? The scope isn't exactly top-shelf, but could easily be upgraded at some point.

Il Duca
August 9, 2007, 01:23 AM
Reimington 710


eww

I second that. Not even on the same league as most of Remington's other products. Vile things. The new one looks even worse, if that's possible.

I would go with Savage, but not a combo deal. The scopes on them are absolute crap. Mine was junk after three shots. With the left over money buy a Nikon Buckmaster or similar scope. Maybe even a Millet or Mueller.

Davo
August 9, 2007, 02:12 AM
A stevens rifle, and a decent scope will do well.
I have a pair of k31's which would be good choices also.
The 710's have a horrible rep, and I havent heard much good or bad about the Howas.
Another option would be to look for a used rifle in the pawnshops or gun stores, or even gun broker.

Smitty in CT
August 9, 2007, 10:51 AM
+1 for the Mossberg 100 ATR, I have one in .270 it is very accurate.

They are available in .243 and .308, do a thorough search, based on everything else that's out there they are very accurate and a great value for your $$$.

jpwilly
August 10, 2007, 08:10 PM
Just picked up a Mossberg 100 ATR (http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.asp?id=8&section=products)in 30-06 Item# 26030 at Wally World for $249 and for now it's sporting a cheapo Center Point (similar to Leapers) 4-16x40mm IR Mil Dot (http://www.centerpointoptics.com/adventure_class/4x16x40/) also from Wally World ($69) to see how it/they shoot. I added a rock mount bipod, uncle mikes QD swivels and a sling. With all listed above $379!

cracked butt
August 10, 2007, 09:59 PM
The best or the most convenient?

For conveniage in the ammo department, get a Stevens Model 20- Its a plain jane savage with no frills or whistles.

The best?

$150 Swiss K-31, $35 Drill andTap scope mount, and $300 to get a high quality scope and rings.

BIGDANO
August 11, 2007, 01:53 AM
Hey guys. I'm a newbie and am looking to get my first .22. I fired a bunch of guns when I was a kid, but that was a while ago. Anyway, I'm wondering what you guys think is the best rifle/scope combo in .22 for a newb?

Thanks!

-Dano

spystyle
September 29, 2007, 03:50 PM
Marlin Model 60 is a great and accurate 22 autoloader.

I can put 14 rounds into a ragged 2" hole at 25 yards with mine. It wears a vintage Tasco (Japan) scope but really anything will work on 22 caliber. "Swift" is a good brand you can find on ebay for small bux. I have a Swift 4X32 scope and it's the clearest thing I have ever looked through, the scope is from 1985 and I got it off ebay for $30.

Cheers,
Craig

jpwilly
September 29, 2007, 07:18 PM
+1 for Mossberg ATR or Steven or Savage. I wouldn't get a COMBO deal...get the rifle and then get the most glass you can for your needs.

spystyle
September 29, 2007, 07:38 PM
The difference between C&R and FFL01 is only a $25 transfer fee.

I would not select a "battle rifle" to shoot accurately at long distances, and let's be honest. C&R guns are "battle rifles", lovely, history soaked, wonderfully engineered, but not purpose built for accuracy.

If I had to shoot long range on a tight budget, I would go with a used Savage or a new Stevens, both are available in 308.

http://www.gunblast.com/Stevens-200.htm
http://www.gunblast.com/Savage10FP-LE2.htm

The difference between a Savage and a Stevens is the heavy barrel and the accu-trigger. Though it's been said that the Stevens is very accurate.

Then some good glass. I'd be scouring eBay for some good used glass, or get a refurb Nikon (or similar) from SWFA - they have Nikon Profstaff for $99. But to shoot at long range you may want more power.

http://tinyurl.com/3xj88r

Good luck,
Craig

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