mosin nagant bolt question


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Stauble
August 10, 2007, 01:38 PM
just a quik question here

i just bought a m-38 mosin nagant and i would like to get a turned down bolt for it and make it into a hunting rifle...anyways will the turnd down bolt from a 91/30 sniper fit into the m-38

id appreciate and info

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Harry Paget Flashman
August 10, 2007, 01:41 PM
Yes. All Nagant bolts interchange.

Harry Paget Flashman
August 10, 2007, 01:46 PM
Numrich has the turned down bolt bodies for $29.95. Part # 291700.

http://www.e-gunparts.com/images/adz/291700.jpg

stevetford
August 10, 2007, 06:00 PM
Sorry but I have to ask a stupid question. What is the benefit of a turned down bolt?

Chipperman
August 10, 2007, 06:03 PM
Clearance for a scope.

redman900
August 10, 2007, 08:29 PM
If you get a new bolt CHECK THE HEADSPACE. ya don't want a problem.
my .2 cents.:rolleyes:

akolleth
August 10, 2007, 08:49 PM
I used the Boltman for mine. Great work, and cheap using my own bolt ($47 shipped)

It's definately better to use your own bolt, as you will have no issues with checking head space, and the numbers still match.

http://home.earthlink.net/~akolleth/mosin1.jpg

cracked butt
August 10, 2007, 08:53 PM
Just switch the bolt body and use the same bolt head- headspace doesn't change.

nalioth
August 10, 2007, 09:25 PM
Sorry but I have to ask a stupid question. What is the benefit of a turned down bolt? not only for scope clearance, but it doesn't hit you so badly in the kidneys/back when you have it slung

General Geoff
August 10, 2007, 09:32 PM
It's also marginally quicker to chamber a new round, as your hand doesn't have to move as far while working the action.

The Deer Hunter
August 10, 2007, 09:41 PM
Are the Numrich bent bolt handles just the sniper style? Because they look like they are just regular bolt handles that were heated up and bent, which just handicap the user.

Btw the site for Numrich is www.e-gunparts.com. To find stuff just search "bolt" . When it asks you to select the manufacturer select Mosin Nagant.

ojh
August 11, 2007, 11:26 AM
Just switch the bolt body and use the same bolt head- headspace doesn't change.

But beware that the trigger pull may change. I tried to switch the bolt body for my M39, and the trigger became much too light, definitely unsafe.

KaiserBen
August 11, 2007, 06:36 PM
ojh, if you swap the rear part of the bolt (cocking piece, I think it's called), from the old bolt onto the new one, you should have (roughly) the same trigger weight.

6mmintl
August 12, 2007, 01:40 AM
check out buymilsurps dot com for their sporter bolts

ojh
August 12, 2007, 03:05 AM
ojh, if you swap the rear part of the bolt (cocking piece, I think it's called), from the old bolt onto the new one, you should have (roughly) the same trigger weight.

I did just that, but still got a hair-trigger. Yes, it is strange. Here's my guess. This is a Finnish M39, and the bolt and the receiver probably have been put together from parts of mixed origin. The original bolt body and receiver are stamped with matching numbers, so probably they are selected to fit together well. Installing another bolt body alters the clearances, and trigger feel too.

dstorm1911
August 12, 2007, 10:51 AM
ojh, order a new sear/spring from Omega, your original was most likally honed down to match the bolt body.

http://www.omega-weapons-systems.com/

start with a new sear/trigger spring and ya should be fine then ya can tune it yourself to best release

ojh
August 12, 2007, 02:17 PM
Thank you for the advice, dstorm1911. However, changing the bolt body was just an experiment. When I bought the rifle, the bolt was somewhat difficult to close, and I found that the cam lug in the original bolt body seemed somewhat oversized. I bought an extra bolt body from a Finnish Army surplus shop (I live in Finland), had an intention to experiment with it, maybe polish the lug etc. But the hair-trigger phenomena quicky stopped my experiments. At the moment I'm happy with the original bolt assembly, shooting the piece has honed the action much smoother.

Hmm, this is getting quite off topic. I just wanted to warn, what may happen if one changes the bolt body.

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