How much $$ to convert a Saiga


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offthepaper
August 10, 2007, 04:25 PM
I 've been thinking about buying a Saiga, also considering getting the .223 instaed of 7.62x39 considering the present state of cheap ammo imports (just not sure of where thats heading). At some point, I'd like to have it converted to the standard AK style. My question is this: how much should I expect to pay to have it converted by a GS? Does anyone know who could do a nice, clean, professional job on this? Anyone got a photo of their conversion they could share?
thanks in advance.

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aubie515
August 10, 2007, 06:01 PM
Tony does amazing work on Saiga's, but his craftsmanship is not cheap.

http://tromix.com/Welcome.htm

eliphalet
August 10, 2007, 06:05 PM
Check and see what a quality 223 would cost before you spend money on a Saiga, would be my thoughts.
Maybe shouldn't say that as I don't wanna start a Saiga argument.

dscottw88
August 10, 2007, 06:11 PM
Here is a pic of my Saiga, I was able to do it myself at 19 and wouldn't consider myself handy in the garage by any means. I used my brothers drill press and a dremmel to get it done within about 2 hours. no nasty marks and no ugly drill holes. The Trigger group ($40) and grip ($10) were ordered from tapco.com. The Stock I ordered from ultimak.com for $40 or $45... I know many people who also convert the mag-well to accomidate for AK style magazines but I just left mine alone. The web site I used for instructions can be found here... http://www.cross-conn.com/Saiga_Conversion/
Wolf .223 ammo can be found for about $3.50 a box on many sites, Its all I use in my 5.56 Saiga. I woulnd't put that stuff through my AR though, just cause I treat that thing like my own kid, only give it the best.

Deer Hunter
August 10, 2007, 06:11 PM
Doesn't matter what .223 you want to run through your Saiga, it'll eat it all. As for the conversion, you'll need a internal US parts

http://www.k-var.com/shop/images/thumbs/t_16409.jpg $43.99

Then the proper furniture.

http://www.k-var.com/shop/product.php?productid=16207&cat=251&page=1 $58.99

Then a bullet guide from Dinzag, found over a Saiga-12 forums. That's another $25 dollars.

That basically what you'll need. It comes out to be aruond $150 for everything.

MD_Willington
August 10, 2007, 06:16 PM
Tony is booked solid....


I'd pay $590 for an already converted S223 from Will at RedJacket...

That is only $90 more than what I've paid for mine so far, and my work has no warranty other than I get to fix it myself...

Will gives a 5 year warranty...

nalioth
August 10, 2007, 06:20 PM
Will gives a 5 year warranty...

I thought he gave a lifetime warranty. Are you sure you're not thinking of Atlantic Firearms (they resell Red Jacket firearms).

Samuraigg
August 10, 2007, 06:51 PM
I'd love to be able to ship my gun off to someone and have them do the conversion. I called someone.. cant remember who, found the company doing a search on the saiga forums. He would do the conversion for 500 something dollars. Uh, no thanks.

I'd gladly pay 250-300 dollars or so (for parts and labor) to get my saiga converted by a reputable gunshop/gunsmith.

nalioth
August 10, 2007, 07:18 PM
It's really easy to do yourself. dscottw88 posted this http://www.cross-conn.com/Saiga_Conversion/ which is pretty much all you need to know (barring some old laws that have passed).

eliphalet
August 10, 2007, 07:52 PM
pay $590 for an already converted S223 from Will at RedJacket...

That is only $90 more than what I've paid for mine so far, and my work has no warranty other than I get to fix it myself

Just a question guys, not a bash or jab at ya in any way but,,,,
Why would you pay this kinda moneys for a Saiga when for a few bucks more and a little shopping you can get a pretty good AR?

rangerruck
August 10, 2007, 08:25 PM
you should be able to get a rearstock, and pistol grip for a set, for about 50 to 70 bucks. then a bit other furniture, and maybe new mags, and new piston, and a few other parts, you should be able to do it all, for 100 to 150 dollars, easy.

ROMAK IV
August 10, 2007, 08:37 PM
I'm with eliphalet,... sort of. A stock Saiga 223 is a decent rifle with out modification, and way cheaper than an AR or a Mini-14, and the high capacity magazines are all over the place. I was finnaly able to buy a Saiga 12 after years and years, and will probably not modify it. The 10 round magazines are the best feature anyway.

GTSteve03
August 10, 2007, 09:45 PM
Just a question guys, not a bash or jab at ya in any way but,,,,
Why would you pay this kinda moneys for a Saiga when for a few bucks more and a little shopping you can get a pretty good AR?
Why would you pay more money for a less reliable rifle?

rangerruck
August 10, 2007, 11:53 PM
because you can get a super accurate, maxed out 223 or 308 saiga, and do it all , for about 500 bucks.

MudPuppy
August 11, 2007, 12:00 AM
Why would you pay this kinda moneys for a Saiga when for a few bucks more and a little shopping you can get a pretty good AR?

Gas piston, beefy locking lugs, and a big boy extractor and solid ejector.

JWarren
August 11, 2007, 03:16 AM
Why would you pay this kinda moneys for a Saiga when for a few bucks more and a little shopping you can get a pretty good AR?

Gotta agree with the posters on here...

I chose a Saiga 308 that I have a total cost floating somewhere near the 1K mark because:

1. Reliability-- never had a failure. Not saying I won't, but it's looking good.
2. Accuracy-- on par with M1A, FAL, and AR-10
3. Ammo choices-- It will feed anything
4. Significant aftermarket products for any customization
5. Durability-- Its an AK.


Downside of a Saiga 308 is proprietary magazines.


-- John

MD_Willington
August 11, 2007, 03:20 AM
Maybe he does give a lifetime, warranty, haven't checked his site in a while.

I've considered an AR as well, last time I shot my Saiga, a buddy from Ratheon brought his M4-gery, both did pretty much the same thing, made .223 holes in the used helium tank we setup.

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