Mall Teen Shoots Himself in the Butt


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shermacman
July 2, 2003, 04:40 PM
"Police said Joshua Michael Short, 18, accidentally shot himself in the backside with a derringer around 4 p.m. at Memorial City Mall..."

http://www.msnbc.com/local/kprc/A1682034.asp?cp1=1

After you get past the fact that the gun was stuck in his waist band and 'somehow went off' check out some of the names in the witness list...Dayzy Malakul is my favorite!

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TallPine
July 2, 2003, 04:58 PM
Experts said that the first thing people should do when they hear a gunshot is to get out of the line of fire.

Well, for one thing, I try not to get right underneath other people's butts.

But I guess if he was standing on me, it would be kind of hard to move.

:D

Jim March
July 2, 2003, 05:09 PM
That's assinine.

He's obviously in arrears and the butt of several jokes which I could crack.

Ledbetter
July 2, 2003, 05:12 PM
I agree with Jim's anal-ysis.

Greg L
July 2, 2003, 05:22 PM
The sheer cheekiness that you people will stoop to disappoints me. Butt I could be wrong again.

TallPine
July 2, 2003, 05:27 PM
In a related story, a local Taco Bell was evacuated and police were summoned after a patron suffered a flatulence attack.

"I hit the floor immediately," said Debbie Blonde, a customer. "I thought someone was spray firing one of those salt weapons from the hip."

sensei
July 2, 2003, 05:32 PM
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Witnesses said the gunshot shocked them.

"It's devastating because you're not safe anymore," said Dayzy Malakul, a shopper.

"I just heard a big bang and everybody just started looking (to see) what was going on. It kind of scared us," said Rommy Patel, a witness.

"I just heard real loud (noise). We just thought it was like a terrorist attack or something," said Jose Lopez, a witness. "(It was) surprisingly loud, real loud."

Police said that the teenager was too young to carry a concealed weapon and he could face charges. It is legal to carry a handgun if the owner has a concealed handgun permit, unless a sign is posted prohibiting weapons.

Experts said that the first thing people should do when they hear a gunshot is to get out of the line of fire.

"If a weapon goes off and you see it, the first thing one ought to do is try to take some cover," said Don Clark, News2Houston consultant and former head of the FBI's Houston office.

"If a person says, 'Give me your jewelry,' then I'm going to give them my jewelry. But on the same token, if they want to put the gun in my face and tell me to come and go with them, then I think I'm going to try to do something to defend myself," Clark said.


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I saw the live interviews on T.V. last night. They always pick the most stupid people they can find to interview. Makes a better story I guess, gives the impression we are all idiots in the Houston area.

This "expert" used to work for the FBI. I think it is a little late to "try to do something to defend myself" with a gun in my face. I teach Martial Arts and I would be REAL careful what I did with a gun in my face. You should never let yourself get in that situation to begin with.

sensei

p.s. - this was a derringer... with no trigger guard, as far as I can tell... being carried in the rear pocket. (that's the impression I got from watching the story)

4v50 Gary
July 2, 2003, 05:46 PM
The lad is a fool, no if, whats or butts about it.

Archie
July 2, 2003, 05:57 PM
What kind of "derringer" is this? The old Remington type had to be manually cocked prior to being fired. The High Standard was a long and hard double action.

How the heck did he get it to go off in his britches? That is talent, folks; but not the kind I recomend. (Dipstick Alert! Dipstick Alert!)

Now: Did you look at the other related news items? How about the truck that blew up on the freeway? Personally, I'm more concerned about semis that explode and burn on the freeway than a self-inflicted buttshoot. But guess which item will get more news coverage?

Sensei, your observation is correct. The news always shows the most "animated" witnesses.... meaning those with the best, most emotional story. Same here in California. Interview witnesses to a traffic accident on TV and you'll hear all manner of details.... none close to reality. How some witness was "almost killed" by a one car accident two blocks away.....

The "ex-FBI witness" is just following party line: Don't resist.
Actually, this guy diverted somewhat; he almost suggested resistance if you're being assaulted. Way out of line.

synoptic
July 2, 2003, 05:59 PM
sensei, I got the same impression about the gun, Derringer with no trigger guard, being carried in the back pocket or waistband. That is the mall i have gone to for the past 8 years. It is 5 minutes away from my mom's house. Yet, i have to disagree withe the people that were interviewed. I don't feel any less secure, with criminals who shoot themselves, who needs cops?

Orthonym
July 3, 2003, 12:39 AM
Doesn't say what kind of derringer, but I think, fundamentally,we can ???-
ume it's some kind of breech loader.

Kenneth Lew
July 3, 2003, 12:42 AM
The bullet should have hit something that would prevent him to breed.

Those sheeple have not seen a crime ridden place yet.:evil:

themic
July 3, 2003, 07:40 AM
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/70203_local_teenshot.html

politically, sure am glad he wasn't legal.

and it's a tragic accident, really, I know, but all i could think the whole time I was reading this was

HAARRRRAHHAHAHEEEHOHARHARHAsnortHARHAHAHAaa....

El Tejon
July 3, 2003, 07:56 AM
Let me guess: IT WAS IN HIS POCKET?

I guess there is a good use for gun shoppe commandos and gun rags--they give the wrong advice to mopes.:D

themic
July 3, 2003, 07:58 AM
whoops! this has been covered already:

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29448

Tamara
July 3, 2003, 07:58 AM
Probably a pot metal striker-fired single action that was waiting to be set off with a sharp blow on the slide.

I'll bet he didn't have it in a quality pocket holster, either.

Tamara
July 3, 2003, 08:00 AM
Threads merged...

Skunkabilly
July 3, 2003, 08:30 AM
"Sumpthin jumped up and bit me in the butt-tocks." :rolleyes:

Tamara
July 3, 2003, 08:37 AM
Ah, it was a derringer.

What is it about derringers, ND's, and mall food courts? Didn't some knucklehead have his fall out of his pocket in a mall food court last year and go off?

Ah, yes... Here (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=95252&highlight=derringer+food+court) we are!

Moral of the story(ies): idiots, derringers, and plastic potted palms don't mix, folks!

Skunkabilly
July 3, 2003, 08:45 AM
and mall food courts? Didn't some knucklehead have his fall out of his pocket in a mall food court last year and go off?

If they had done the smart thing and call Skunkabilly Tactical, they could have goblin-proofed their food court.

"FREEEEZE! MALL SECURITY!!!" :p

Kentucky Rifle
July 3, 2003, 08:56 AM
Here I am, tryin' to stop bleeding, being really still, and you all post stuff like this! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Kind of a "cheeky" post.

KR

lee n. field
July 3, 2003, 08:57 AM
A derrringer is the only gun I know of where it might be true that "it somehow just went off".

The one I had for a while, an FIE 2 barrel .38, had 2 firing pins and a flip/flop hammer arrangement internally that switched from one to the other. That internal part chipped easily, so getting it to fire when you wanted it to was iffy. Whatever firing pin was "current" basically rested against the primer of the cartridge. I never kept it with both chambers loaded.

"It's devastating because you're not safe anymore," said Dayzy Malakul, a shopper.

Get a clue lady. You weren't safe before, you just didn't notice.

Kentucky Rifle
July 3, 2003, 09:09 AM
I had a friend one time who had one of those. He kept it loaded with lead, round nose .38's. It fell out of his pocket while he was getting out of his car. BANG! The bullet went in behind his ankle and right up the inside of his leg. He was jumping around like he was doing the "fire dance". Later, in the hospital ER, he told me that it DID feel hot as he**. After all, it WAS a gunshot wound. I tried not to laugh, I really did.:D

KR

Byron Quick
July 3, 2003, 09:50 AM
There's a medical term for that feeling of heat. Nerve damage.

MicroBalrog
July 3, 2003, 10:15 AM
I think we know this "mall teen". His name is "Gecko45".:D

BigG
July 3, 2003, 11:00 AM
It was prolly a chrome plated Raven .25 wif pink pearl grips. :p

Nathaniel Firethorn
July 3, 2003, 11:11 AM
It was prolly a chrome plated Raven .25 wif pink pearl grips. :pNope. Buttredda derriereinger. Chambered in .45 ACP (Arse Crack Penetrator.)Police said that the teenager was too young to carry a concealed weapon and he could face charges of carrying a weapon without a license.That would put an end to his heineous crimes, for certain.

- pdmoderator

Skunkabilly
July 3, 2003, 11:21 AM
Experts said that the first thing people should do when they hear a gunshot is to get out of the line of fire.

Well...DUH!!!!!! :banghead:

Gmac
July 3, 2003, 11:30 AM
Musta been a derriere-inger!!!!!:D :D :D

gburner
July 3, 2003, 12:09 PM
"how did it go off in his pants?"

IIRC...as a teenager, many things are subject to go off in your pants.

Another camper shot in the ??? with the program.:rolleyes:

dinosaur
July 3, 2003, 12:24 PM
brain surgery is necessary.:what: :neener:

Pebcac
July 3, 2003, 03:53 PM
...a self-inflicted buttshoot

Bwahahahaha! This had me laughing out loud!

HBK
July 3, 2003, 04:06 PM
Maybe he was just happy to see...

Preacherman
July 3, 2003, 05:59 PM
For even more humor, see this thread (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=136430) on our predecessor forum, The Firing Line, for another incident...

:D

telewinz
July 3, 2003, 07:01 PM
This guy gives new meaning to the term "Butthole":uhoh:

I wonder wear he keeps/inserts his holster?:scrutiny:

Ed Brunner
July 3, 2003, 07:58 PM
".45 ACP (Arse Crack Penetrator.)"

"This guy gives new meaning to the term "Butthole" "

Really cracked me up:D

seeker_two
July 3, 2003, 10:00 PM
Police said that the teenager was too young to carry a concealed weapon and he could face charges...

Anyone think these may be t-RUMP-ed up charges?...:evil:

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